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9/28/2023 11:35:18 PM EDT
Will the DDM4 Rail 12.0 FSP handguard of the DDM4 V1 be available as a separate part?
10/4/2023 8:40:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By arwoodie:
Will the DDM4 Rail 12.0 FSP handguard of the DDM4 V1 be available as a separate part?
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I don't think it ever has been. I find that odd given that the OmegaX 12.0 FSP (used on the original M4V1) was in fact available separately. Not sure why its successor in the DDM4 line wasn't also available separately.
10/4/2023 10:27:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By VigilantPanda15:


I don't think it ever has been. I find that odd given that the OmegaX 12.0 FSP (used on the original M4V1) was in fact available separately. Not sure why its successor in the DDM4 line wasn't also available separately.
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I agree.

I tried to source both a 12.0 FSP and an OmegaX 12.0 FSP. Couldn't find either, so I went Geissele and never looked back.
10/4/2023 10:39:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saber329:
I agree.

I tried to source both a 12.0 FSP and an OmegaX 12.0 FSP. Couldn't find either, so I went Geissele and never looked back.
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I've seen OmegaX 12.0 FSP rails for sale on GunBroker occasionally (nearly bought one a year ago, even though I already have an old M4V1 URG with the same rail). You just have to watch for them.

DDM4 12.0 FSP rails won't be available separately unless you find one that someone took off a newer-spec M4V1 upper.
10/4/2023 5:09:22 PM EDT
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We used to sell them but no longer do.  It lost it's popularity due to higher demand for mid-length gas systems, low profile gas blocks, and long rails to cover them. We don't even offer the DDM4 V1 any longer for the same reason.

We do, however, still offer the RIS II M4A1 FSP and the newer RIS III 13.0 FSP.  One M-1913 and one M-LOK option.  Both of there are far easier to install that the DDM4 Rail 12.0 FSP due to the removeable lower rail.
Joe Marler
Daniel Defense
Law Enforcement Sales Manager
10/5/2023 11:30:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marler5811:
We used to sell them but no longer do.  It lost it's popularity due to higher demand for mid-length gas systems, low profile gas blocks, and long rails to cover them. We don't even offer the DDM4 V1 any longer for the same reason.

We do, however, still offer the RIS II M4A1 FSP and the newer RIS III 13.0 FSP.  One M-1913 and one M-LOK option.  Both of there are far easier to install that the DDM4 Rail 12.0 FSP due to the removeable lower rail.
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This question was prompted by the reappearance of https://danieldefense.com/ddm4-v1.html
10/6/2023 7:53:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marler5811:
We used to sell them but no longer do.  It lost it's popularity due to higher demand for mid-length gas systems, low profile gas blocks, and long rails to cover them. We don't even offer the DDM4 V1 any longer for the same reason.

We do, however, still offer the RIS II M4A1 FSP and the newer RIS III 13.0 FSP.  One M-1913 and one M-LOK option.  Both of there are far easier to install that the DDM4 Rail 12.0 FSP due to the removeable lower rail.
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Appreciate the response, thank you.
10/6/2023 3:44:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By arwoodie:


This question was prompted by the reappearance of https://danieldefense.com/ddm4-v1.html
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Ah.  Guess we are still offering the rifle but only on the website in limited quantities.
Joe Marler
Daniel Defense
Law Enforcement Sales Manager
10/9/2023 8:03:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marler5811:
Ah.  Guess we are still offering the rifle but only on the website in limited quantities.
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You guys definitely discontinued the M4V1 from about late-2021 until earlier this year, but it seems to have resumed limited production.

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