Bering Optics Super Yoter R Review (Page 3 of 4)
This video is from the released version of the Super Yoter. It is a fine thermal weapon's sight.  Kirsch Chronicles 21 - Ep#7: The Real Deal |
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Originally Posted By Eight: Okay, I don’t hunt coyotes. What do you do with all these corpses? |
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Originally Posted By Pig_Popper: Kirsch, Any improvement in Black Hot mode - detail and clarity ? |
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Originally Posted By FlyingIllini: Any update on when the pre-orders will ship ? In an attempt to shorten wait times, Night Goggles continues to order more product well in advance of when orders are taken. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander: Same here, will be comparing it to my 60mm Mk3 IRH & a Phenom 640 scanner. Originally Posted By 02Overlander: Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Just got my shipping notice and tracking from Night Goggles  Look forward to comparing it to the REAP |
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Originally Posted By KoreyKirsch: Great to hear your Super Yoters are on the way. Night Goggles appreciates your business. Let us know if you have any questions. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on how it compares to your other great thermals. The Super Yoter-R produces a noticeably crisper image than my 60mm Mk3. If I could only keep one, I'd sell the Trijicon.... easy decision. I expected the Yoter-R's performance to be similar to that of my Phenom scanner (12um version) which would have made me a happy buyer but surprisingly, the Yoter-R looks even better. I could not be more pleased & impressed w/ the Yoter-R. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander: The Super Yoter-R produces a noticeably crisper image than my 60mm Mk3. If I could only keep one, I'd sell the Trijicon.... easy decision. I expected the Yoter-R's performance to be similar to that of my Phenom scanner (12um version) which would have made me a happy buyer but surprisingly, the Yoter-R looks even better. I could not be more pleased & impressed w/ the Yoter-R. Great to hear! FedEx still hasn't delivered mine 
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:The Super Yoter-R produces a noticeably crisper image than my 60mm Mk3. If I could only keep one, I'd sell the Trijicon.... easy decision. I expected the Yoter-R's performance to be similar to that of my Phenom scanner (12um version) which would have made me a happy buyer but surprisingly, the Yoter-R looks even better. I could not be more pleased & impressed w/ the Yoter-R. It is no secret the iRay Rico and Super Yoter share the same iRay 640 sensor. However, one of the knocks on this sensor was the black-hot mode isn't very good. In the Super Yoter prototype I tested, the white hot was amazing, but the black hot was OK. It kind of confirmed what I had heard from others on the Rico. I reported this to Bering along with my other test results. When my production version arrived, I was very surprised at the amount of improvement in the black hot mode. This video was recorded around 85% humidity, and the 2nd coyote stand I changed to black hot and recorded a kill.  Kirsch Chronicles 21 - Ep#9: Saving Cats |
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Originally Posted By KoreyKirsch: You are comparing the Yoters' image to a thermal that costs 2x the price and is known as one of the best images in the commercial thermal industry. That is saying something by saying the Yoter has a crisper image. The higher the humidity, the more you will like the Super Yoter in comparison. It is no secret the iRay Rico and Super Yoter share the same iRay 640 sensor. However, one of the knocks on this sensor was the black-hot mode isn't very good. In the Super Yoter prototype I tested, the white hot was amazing, but the black hot was OK. It kind of confirmed what I had heard from others on the Rico. I reported this to Bering along with my other test results. When my production version arrived, I was very surprised at the amount of improvement in the black hot mode. This video was recorded around 85% humidity, and the 2nd coyote stand I changed to black hot and recorded a kill.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLaBM2LSZoBering was very smart to spec a higher resolution OLED screen on the Yoter-R. The Trijicon is a pixel to pixel core/screen match as I understand it, so a 640 res LED screen. The OLED 1024 res screen on the Yoter-R is what is making the difference & it's a big one. What really blows my mind is I have more tied up in my 60mm Mk3 (started life as a 35mm MK2 in 2015 & over the years I upgraded to a 35mm MK3 & then to the 60mm) than I have invested in my Phenom scanner & the Super Yoter-R combined. Admittedly I have spent very little time using black hot on the Yoter-R as I'm more of a white hot user so if there is a deficiency there, I haven't noticed it yet. My only criticism - I just wish Bering had integrated audio recording into the Yoter-R. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Not NGI's fault. FedEx is terrible around here. FedEx is terrible everywhere. It seems there is ALWAYS some sort of delay when I have a FedEx package coming. Wish NGI offered a UPS shipping option. |
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:My only criticism - I just wish Bering had integrated audio recording into the Yoter-R. |
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@KoreyKirsch Any chance you would be willing to get more side by side photos or videos on the Super Hogster and Super Yoter in addition to those you’ve posted in miscellaneous forums? Debating on making the switch but curious what the difference looks like with various animals at various distances. Thank you! |
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Originally Posted By KoreyKirsch: I know Bering is looking into options, so hopefully something is available in the future. I do a lot of editing so I probably won't use it much either way, but I know many people want audio as part of their recordings. One option that can be used now is to use the infirayOutdoors app. I have done quite a few video recording tests and the video quality via the app and via internal recording is virtually identical. There is a microphone option in the infirayOutdoors app. You will be pulling audio from your device, and recording the wireless video stream from the scope. It works, but four negatives. You are using more battery as your wireless is on, you have to have your phone or device along, you have to hit record on your device vs on the scope, and in my testing the audio was just a little behind the video so it wasn't perfectly in synch. I realize it isn't perfect, but at least it is something. I could do without audio, seeing it as not much value-added. |
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Originally Posted By mr2143: Any chance you would be willing to get more side by side photos or videos on the Super Hogster and Super Yoter in addition to those you’ve posted in miscellaneous forums? Debating on making the switch but curious what the difference looks like with various animals at various distances. Thank you! |
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Originally Posted By Are-O-Be: FedEx is terrible everywhere. It seems there is ALWAYS some sort of delay when I have a FedEx package coming. Wish NGI offered a UPS shipping option. There is that. My estimated delivery went from last Friday, to today, to this past Saturday, to tomorrow. Been sitting on a truck for delivery since Saturday. Agreed. |
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Originally Posted By HOLGER_DANSKE: Just ordered my Super Yoter today from NGI! My first thermal. Hopefully I get it before Kansas Night Vision hunting starts in January! Edit: whats everyone using for external battery supply? @HOLGER_DANSKE https://apex3d.shop/collections/power-kits/products/hogster-power-kit |
Well looks like I may have my Yoter sometime late next week or early the week after. FedEx stopped providing tracking updates on it, was unable to tell me where it was for a week over the course of 5 phone calls to them, then decided to return it to NG because it sat too long and wasn't picked up. So back to NG it goes so it can be sent back to me via a different carrier  Huge thanks to Carina at NG for trying to get this straightened out. FedEx can eat a bag of dicks. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: @HOLGER_DANSKE https://apex3d.shop/collections/power-kits/products/hogster-power-kit @Pavelow16478 Thank you sir! Hope you get yours soon! |
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Originally Posted By HOLGER_DANSKE: Just ordered my Super Yoter today from NGI! My first thermal. Hopefully I get it before Kansas Night Vision hunting starts in January! Edit: whats everyone using for external battery supply? TRB Extended Battery System |
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Originally Posted By tx1021: @KoreyKirsch Any opinions on using rechargeable 16340s in these? Mostly going to be using a powerbank but was thinking it'd be nice to have that option as well. |
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Originally Posted By KoreyKirsch: The Hogsters and Yoters are compatible with 3.7V CR123 style rechargeables. However, Bering does not recommend their use. The reason is a lack of consistency and quality in these rechargeables. Lots of cheap batteries and chargers that overcharge batteries. Add recoil to the mix and it can be a recipe for some bad things. If the batteries leak or start on fire on the inside of a thermal, the result would not be good. Bering's warranty at this time says the warranty does not apply if damage to the thermal is caused by internal rechargeable batteries. So, it can handle it, but Bering doesn't recommend them. Thanks for the response, I'll definitely stick with powerbanks and quality non-rechargables then. And for anyone considering the Yoter, the videos and pictures online don't even come close to doing it justice. Just some quick pics from suburbia but hopefully will actually get out with it tonight.   |
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Got the Yoter mounted and rough zeroed yesterday. Initial feedback on it is very positive. Weight and form factor are great, picture is amazing. The Larue mount is great as always with them even though they are not my go to. The buttons and menus are very well laid out and easy to use/navigate. They are going to take a lot of getting used to for me personally, huge change from the joystick control on the REAP. Good selection of color pallets, easy to get a good picture in different conditions. I'm blown away with hot good the white hot is. I typically only used it just after dark with my REAP, then switched to black hot. Looking like it will be the go to with the Yoter. Getting it zeroed was quick and easy. Menus were easier to navigate than the REAP. Freeze function is very handy but in my opinion you need a good rest to make use of it. Wound up not using it with just a bipod and rear bag. Wifi and connecting to the app is quick and easy. Works well. Only complaint is the Wi-Fi needs turned on each time you turn the scope on, but this will help prolong battery life when only turning it on when wanted. My biggest complaint is the ocular lens. Focusing it so the center is focused leaves the edges fuzzy. Not a huge deal and don't really notice it but the PVS-14 ocular on the REAP has an advantage here. My only other minor complaint is the direction the rubber cover over the USB-C port flips up in. It flips forward leaving it in the way of cable routing when running an external pack. If the rubber flipped to the rear it would be out of the way. Not a huge deal. I would like to see this take larger rechargeables instead of two CR123s. With how I hunt cables and externals get in the way and get caught. Having the scope powered by two 18650s would be a huge benefit. Will see if I can get my Apex 3D pack mounted and the cable routed where I can keep them out of the way. Going to try some Arson Machine wire guides. Overall I'm very happy with the Yoter. Incredible picture and a great value. Was really torn on this and worried I was going to be disappointed with it compared to my 35mm REAP. Turned out to definitely not be the case and the REAP is now for sale . Huge thanks to Korey for talking to me about the Yoter before purchase and Carina at NG for handling the purchase. Definitely a happy customer!  Bering Super Yoter first look Squirrel was at about 60 yards in this video.  |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:I would like to see this take larger rechargeables instead of two CR123s. With how I hunt cables and externals get in the way and get caught. Having the scope powered by two 18650s would be a huge benefit. Will see if I can get my Apex 3D pack mounted and the cable routed where I can keep them out of the way. Going to try some Arson Machine wire guides. Overall I'm very happy with the Yoter. Incredible picture and a great value. Was really torn on this and worried I was going to be disappointed with it compared to my 35mm REAP. Turned out to definitely not be the case and the REAP is now for sale . Huge thanks to Korey for talking to me about the Yoter before purchase and Carina at NG for handling the purchase. Definitely a happy customer!As for 18650's they won't fit as they are slightly wider than CR123s. I am testing an option that I hope to be able to talk about in a few months that may help with a similar battery style as 18650s for those that don't want to run a battery pack. Enjoy this great thermal. |
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Some more Super Yoter Videos: Kirsch Chronicles 21 - Ep#10: Making A Dent  Kirsch Chronicles 21 - Ep#11: Pet Patrol |
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Originally Posted By KoreyKirsch: Great to hear your initial impressions. As for the cable management piece, I find the Larue Index Clips a great help with that. Amazon also carries them. They are cheaper at LaRue, but with shipping can be more expensive if not buying something else. In the pack, there are some clips that can be used for running cables. The eyepeice was a choice Bering made to get a higher base magnification to satisfy their target market. I don't notice it anymore after using it for awhile. As for 18650's they won't fit as they are slightly wider than CR123s. I am testing an option that I hope to be able to talk about in a few months that may help with a similar battery style as 18650s for those that don't want to run a battery pack. Enjoy this great thermal. I forgot I had a box of them stashed away, worked out well  |
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Idiot neewb question here: What exactly is NUCing? From what I can tell so far, it appears to be some kind of automatic refresh function for the sensor but I am not finding any definition or explanation of it. Tried searching it and the owners manual isn't revealing anything. Can anybody explain what this is? Thanks, |
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Originally Posted By SonofLiberty1775: Idiot neewb question here: What exactly is NUCing? From what I can tell so far, it appears to be some kind of automatic refresh function for the sensor but I am not finding any definition or explanation of it. Tried searching it and the owners manual isn't revealing anything. Can anybody explain what this is? Thanks, https://www.flir.com/discover/professional-tools/what-is-a-non-uniformity-correction-nuc/ |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: https://www.flir.com/discover/professional-tools/what-is-a-non-uniformity-correction-nuc/ |
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Additional Super Yoter Coyote Video: Kirsch Chronicles 21 - Ep#12: Getting It Done |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: https://www.flir.com/discover/professional-tools/what-is-a-non-uniformity-correction-nuc/ Fantastic--- Thank You! |
Little bit of target practice with the SY today. After a clean miss on a yote at 230 yards last night I realized I screwed up my zero  Better now. 143 yards off my tripod. Target: https://www.atlastargetworks.com/collections/animal-target-assemblies/products/ar500-coyote-target-pre-order  Super Yoter Target Practice  |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: Little bit of target practice with the SY today. After a clean miss on a yote at 230 yards last night I realized I screwed up my zero Better now. 143 yards off my tripod. Target: https://www.atlastargetworks.com/collections/animal-target-assemblies/products/ar500-coyote-target-pre-order https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLGDLFKmMOYhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86377/1182D722-0192-4FB9-9C40-95CD764B75D1-2178573.jpg Nice! I just got my yoter in the other day. Wow is all I can say! Cant wait to get it sighted in and go hunting with it. |
| I have them for the super Hogster , but not the super Yoter. I spoke with Bering roughly a week ago and they said I should have something in the next few weeks. As soon as I see it, I will put it on the Night Goggles website and provide a link. |
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Bering Optics Super Yoter R Review (Page 3 of 4)
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