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5/28/2025 11:19:01 AM EDT
[#1]
Same. Not going clone correct because different optic and using Otter Creek but is the Gen 3 better than the Gen 4? After reading through this entire thread, is sounds like the Gen 4 may be better and/or suit my needs better. The Mod H is fairly new to me.

Curious because I only want/need one or the other.
5/28/2025 11:53:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Gen 4 came about to address issues with the Gen 3.  We changed the lock up with the tube to increase the strength, and we went with a wider castle nut and an ambi end plate to allow the nut to be torqued down to eliminate the wobbling issue the gusset allowed.  

Jesse

Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
5/28/2025 12:41:34 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
Gen 4 came about to address issues with the Gen 3.  We changed the lock up with the tube to increase the strength, and we went with a wider castle nut and an ambi end plate to allow the nut to be torqued down to eliminate the wobbling issue the gusset allowed.  

Jesse

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Understood. So both Gen 3 and Gen 4 have been and will be restocking a little at a time until done?

Decisions, decisions. 🤣

Thanks, Jesse!
5/28/2025 12:53:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, Gen 4's will most likely hit this weekend, the Gen 3's are still a bit out.  Gen 4's will be available more often than the Gen 3's, the retro's we'll run every year or two when we have the demand to justify a batch.

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
5/28/2025 12:57:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for all the updates Jesse, I'm still holding out for a gen 3.
5/28/2025 12:58:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Got it. Again, thank you for all of the information and quick reponses.
5/28/2025 2:29:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Next drop for Gen 4 SOCOM's will be Saturday May 31 at noon EST, barring any complications.  The Gen 3's will be available around the first of July, I'll know specifics closer to that date.

Thanks,

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
5/28/2025 3:04:59 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
Next drop for Gen 4 SOCOM's will be Saturday May 31 at noon EST, barring any complications.  The Gen 3's will be available around the first of July, I'll know specifics closer to that date.

Thanks,

Jesse
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Does that locking ring mentioned in the thread earlier work with the Gen 4?
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5/28/2025 11:20:39 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Does that locking ring mentioned in the thread earlier work with the Gen 4?
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prolly only if I machine the gusset to clear it lol. that was  a 1-off i did. but JT could maybe have gussets relieved to fit one of them.
5/31/2025 9:00:09 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
Next drop for Gen 4 SOCOM's will be Saturday May 31 at noon EST, barring any complications.  The Gen 3's will be available around the first of July, I'll know specifics closer to that date.

Thanks,

Jesse
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Is this the link for the Gen 4s dropping today? @JTDistributing

https://doublestarusa.com/m4-socom-stock-0-5-stock-with-buffer-tube-only-a150.html
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5/31/2025 10:33:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Gen 4 ACE SOCOMs are live. I just checked out with one.

https://doublestarusa.com/m4-socom-stock-0-5-stock-with-buffer-tube-only-a150.html
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5/31/2025 12:04:15 PM EDT
[#12]
I guess I missed it again? Already OOS at noon est.
5/31/2025 12:05:14 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Is this the link for the Gen 4s dropping today? @JTDistributing

https://doublestarusa.com/m4-socom-stock-0-5-stock-with-buffer-tube-only-a150.html
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WTF? JT said the drop was at noon EST.
5/31/2025 12:14:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slu54:
I guess I missed it again? Already OOS at noon est.
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Yeah. I've been sitting on the page all morning refreshing every 15 minutes since 8AM CST until it went live this morning.

Old habit from trying to get Warhammer 40k stuff to beat the bots.
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5/31/2025 12:16:32 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Yeah. I've been sitting on the page all morning refreshing every 15 minutes since 8AM CST until it went live this morning.
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Well I checked before noon ET and it was OOS, still is OOS, so drop didn't happen at noon ET.
5/31/2025 12:18:09 PM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By Slu54:

Well I checked before noon ET and it was OOS, still is OOS, so drop didn't happen at noon ET.
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Originally Posted By Slu54:
Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Yeah. I've been sitting on the page all morning refreshing every 15 minutes since 8AM CST until it went live this morning.

Well I checked before noon ET and it was OOS, still is OOS, so drop didn't happen at noon ET.

Yeah. It happened around 1020 EST.
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5/31/2025 2:00:28 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
Next drop for Gen 4 SOCOM's will be Saturday May 31 at noon EST, barring any complications.  The Gen 3's will be available around the first of July, I'll know specifics closer to that date.

Thanks,

Jesse
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I logged it at noon to get one and they were gone? What gives?

5/31/2025 8:49:34 PM EDT
[#18]
I did the same thing as 11boomboom, he beat me to posting saying they were in stock by a min. Your best bet is to subscribe to the thread, the last 2 drops were posted in here and then you will get an email at least. They probably only had about 30 or so for sale and went out of stock at 11:40ish
5/31/2025 9:00:34 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:
Gen 4 ACE SOCOMs are live. I just checked out with one.

https://doublestarusa.com/m4-socom-stock-0-5-stock-with-buffer-tube-only-a150.html
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thank you for the post, I managed to snag one.
5/31/2025 10:03:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BadSVT:


thank you for the post, I managed to snag one.
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Originally Posted By BadSVT:
Originally Posted By 11boomboom:
Gen 4 ACE SOCOMs are live. I just checked out with one.

https://doublestarusa.com/m4-socom-stock-0-5-stock-with-buffer-tube-only-a150.html


thank you for the post, I managed to snag one.

You're welcome. When I saw them go live that early, I knew I had to spread the word here so some of us could get them.

Like I said earlier, I've missed out on these and other hobbies before, so I camp out these things all day.

ETA: Just an FYI, the Gen 3s are supposed to drop in about 2 weeks, so sub here for when they get a drop day.
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6/2/2025 8:43:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JTDistributing][Edited] [#21]
I apologize for the premature population, everything on the backend of the site was set to go live at noon, but something happened and the inventory uploaded early.  I'm looking into why the issue occurred and working to resolve it.  We'll do better on one.

Thanks,

Jesse


ETA:  Our web guy populated it early to make sure everything was GTG before noon, but had not anticipated the early traffic on them.  We'll make sure to populate inventory at the time specified next drop.
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/2/2025 11:33:15 AM EDT
[#22]
If someone decides they do not need their gen 4 and wants to make a few bucks, please let me know.
6/3/2025 3:32:38 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
I apologize for the premature population, everything on the backend of the site was set to go live at noon, but something happened and the inventory uploaded early.  I'm looking into why the issue occurred and working to resolve it.  We'll do better on one.

Thanks,

Jesse


ETA:  Our web guy populated it early to make sure everything was GTG before noon, but had not anticipated the early traffic on them.  We'll make sure to populate inventory at the time specified next drop.
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That makes sense, no big deal, appreciate the explanation.
6/9/2025 2:28:18 PM EDT
[#24]
I missed out on this last drop. Would end of Q3 be the estimated time for the next one? Thanks!
6/10/2025 10:36:39 AM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By Sensr6:
I missed out on this last drop. Would end of Q3 be the estimated time for the next one? Thanks!
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No, we're running smaller batches and having more regular drops.  The next drop will be in the next few weeks.

Thanks,

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/10/2025 10:52:39 AM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:


No, we're running smaller batches and having more regular drops.  The next drop will be in the next few weeks.

Thanks,

Jesse
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This will be the Gen 3 drop, correct?
6/10/2025 11:09:29 AM EDT
[#27]
We should have a Gen 4 first, then the Gen 3.

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/10/2025 11:24:20 AM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
We should have a Gen 4 first, then the Gen 3.

Jesse
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Ok. The Gen3 is what I am for.
6/11/2025 12:51:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Is there any chance you guys are going to do a larger run of them to carry stock like you have in previous years? (of the gen 4) Or will it all just be small drops?
6/11/2025 1:30:49 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By jsxtreme:
Is there any chance you guys are going to do a larger run of them to carry stock like you have in previous years? (of the gen 4) Or will it all just be small drops?
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At this time I don't have plans doing long runs on them.  When we were doing runs of 250-500, the first 50/100 would go out for online retailer orders, then it would take 3-6 months for the balance to trickle out.  With the state of the current market, I don't want to sit on the extra inventory.  I'll probably increase the batch size after we get the Gen 3's through the pipeline, but I don't intend on keeping them actively on the shelf at all times.  This could change if the demand is there, but I doubt that I'll be keeping the excess inventory like we were previously.

Thanks,

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/11/2025 2:10:12 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:


At this time I don't have plans doing long runs on them.  When we were doing runs of 250-500, the first 50/100 would go out for online retailer orders, then it would take 3-6 months for the balance to trickle out.  With the state of the current market, I don't want to sit on the extra inventory.  I'll probably increase the batch size after we get the Gen 3's through the pipeline, but I don't intend on keeping them actively on the shelf at all times.  This could change if the demand is there, but I doubt that I'll be keeping the excess inventory like we were previously.

Thanks,

Jesse
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Roger that, thank you! Makes sense as things have slowed down, just seemed like there was a fair bit of demand as they sell out so quickly.

As always, appreciate it.
6/11/2025 3:16:40 PM EDT
[#32]
There is a demand currently, they've been out of stock for quite a while which helped drive the demand.  It was hard to tell if the demand is actually 50 units or 500 units, so we opted to ease into the process.  I made sure to keep the posting updated so everyone knows what's going on so hopefully there isn't a huge amount of flippers since they're coming out fairly regularly.  Keep your eyes out on our social media next week, that's where we're going to announce the next release since the stocks were gone before the announcement went out due to the premature population.      


Thanks,

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/11/2025 5:24:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom][Edited] [#33]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
There is a demand currently, they've been out of stock for quite a while which helped drive the demand.  It was hard to tell if the demand is actually 50 units or 500 units, so we opted to ease into the process.  I made sure to keep the posting updated so everyone knows what's going on so hopefully there isn't a huge amount of flippers since they're coming out fairly regularly.  Keep your eyes out on our social media next week, that's where we're going to announce the next release since the stocks were gone before the announcement went out due to the premature population.      


Thanks,

Jesse
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What's your favorite wrench for installing the castle nut? I thought I had the right wrench, but I didn't.

I did get to test fire it today, but I'll need to tighten it down all the way so it doesn't loosen up like it did at the range.

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ETA: I ordered a Midwest Industries spanner wrench for castle nuts. I'm hoping that one will work. My other spanner wrenches weren't quite right.
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6/12/2025 9:39:59 AM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:
There is a demand currently, they've been out of stock for quite a while which helped drive the demand.  It was hard to tell if the demand is actually 50 units or 500 units, so we opted to ease into the process.  I made sure to keep the posting updated so everyone knows what's going on so hopefully there isn't a huge amount of flippers since they're coming out fairly regularly.  Keep your eyes out on our social media next week, that's where we're going to announce the next release since the stocks were gone before the announcement went out due to the premature population.      


Thanks,

Jesse
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For the folks in this thread, is there anyway we can signup or prepay for specific one/Gen? I'd be happy to prepay or be on a dedicated buyers list for a Gen 3. This problem for myself and possibly many others is we aren't on social media all the the time and email blasts don't always get to the intended party on time. Thanks
6/12/2025 1:18:03 PM EDT
[#35]
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For the folks in this thread, is there anyway we can signup or prepay for specific one/Gen? I'd be happy to prepay or be on a dedicated buyers list for a Gen 3. This problem for myself and possibly many others is we aren't on social media all the the time and email blasts don't always get to the intended party on time. Thanks
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We've been trying to come up with solutions for this issue.  I have been part of exactly one group buy and one pre-sale. Both went sideways due to situations out of my control because of the actions of third parties.  I will NEVER be a part of another group buy.  I am adverse to taking money for products I don't have in may hand to sell, and I don't believe the lists that people get on to purchase something when they aren't required to make a non-refundable deposit.  We'll continue to think of possible solutions for this and I'll post with what we come up with.

Right now we're trying to do this the fairest way possible, I know it's frustrating when you miss out on a drop, I've missed out on them for concert tickets, patch drops, knife drops, etc.  They'll start dropping more per release after the Gen 3's get finished.  I appreciate everyone's patience!

Thanks,

Jesse




Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/12/2025 6:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dugedug][Edited] [#36]
Another drop! Don't know how many they have but they just posted to Facebook also. I just randomly did a daily page refresh right as they dropped.
6/12/2025 7:52:20 PM EDT
[#37]
Gen 4s are live
6/12/2025 7:56:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Im guessing the Gen 3s will drop on a different link? Thanks.
6/12/2025 8:39:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JTDistributing:


We've been trying to come up with solutions for this issue.  I have been part of exactly one group buy and one pre-sale. Both went sideways due to situations out of my control because of the actions of third parties.  I will NEVER be a part of another group buy.  I am adverse to taking money for products I don't have in may hand to sell, and I don't believe the lists that people get on to purchase something when they aren't required to make a non-refundable deposit.  We'll continue to think of possible solutions for this and I'll post with what we come up with.

Right now we're trying to do this the fairest way possible, I know it's frustrating when you miss out on a drop, I've missed out on them for concert tickets, patch drops, knife drops, etc.  They'll start dropping more per release after the Gen 3's get finished.  I appreciate everyone's patience!

Thanks,

Jesse




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I'm not worried about missing a drop if I have the date and time. Just as long as they drop at said date and time.

Unfortunately for some, they missed the Gen4. Will there be any sort of email, message, social media post for the Gen3 or will they go up like today, no warning?

Edit** or post here about the time and date of release?
6/13/2025 6:25:49 AM EDT
[#40]
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Gen 4s are live
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So they were live yesterday about 17:00?  
Few posts above Jesse said next week.
6/13/2025 11:49:18 AM EDT
[#41]
I don’t think he’ll notify this thread first so I would turn on notification through insta.
6/13/2025 12:42:21 PM EDT
[#42]
The only insta page I found hasn't been updated in years. FB is updated but didn't get notification there either. I was mowing after work yesterday.
6/13/2025 12:48:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Make sure it’s @doublestar_corp. Their socom drop was posted just yesterday.
6/13/2025 6:40:18 PM EDT
[#44]
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Make sure it’s @doublestar_corp. Their socom drop was posted just yesterday.
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Thanks, gave it a follow also. See what happens. Just fate telling me not to spend more after all my H&R retro spending
6/13/2025 11:39:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Same here. I’m waiting for their gen 3 drop which is supposed to be coming up.
6/14/2025 8:53:52 AM EDT
[#46]
It looks like Noveske and WetWorx got together for some barrels.


https://wetworxoutfitters.com/noveske-mk12-mod-h-barrel-holland/
6/16/2025 8:46:27 AM EDT
[#47]
For those who snagged drops - how long did it take for you to get them?
6/16/2025 10:13:09 AM EDT
[#48]
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For those who snagged drops - how long did it take for you to get them?
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4-ish days to Texas. It took about a day or so to ship.
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6/16/2025 10:16:29 AM EDT
[#49]
I'll post here the time and date of the Gen 3 and next Gen 4 drop.  I'm waiting for parts to come back from coating so we can start getting them assembled, and I can give an ETA.  Since we had the premature population issue on the last drop, we sent notice through social media for the last batch.    

We're trying to do this the most fair and honest way possible, I know there is a demand and we're trying to fill it as efficiently as possible.  I'll keep updating as things progress.

Thanks,

Jesse
Jesse Starnes
Vice President DoubleStar Corp.
www.doublestarusa.com
6/16/2025 10:47:23 AM EDT
[#50]
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4-ish days to Texas. It took about a day or so to ship.
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Roger that, thank you!

Also, thanks again for keeping us in the loop Jesse.

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