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3/14/2020 8:08:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Okay, I just went outside at dusk and took these pictures





Note the field of view (side to side breadth)  of the 2.0x PA  v the 1.5x ACOG.  It deceptively looks like the ACOG has more magnification, but it doesn't.  The 2.0x PA shows a much larger view AND has slightly more magnification.  The ACOG field of view feels very tight by comparison.  
The image on the ACOG photograph is not as clear as the PA because the sun was setting and I took the ACOG picture last.  I will try to get some photographs that show the clarity of the two optics during full daylight.

Also note how large the horseshoe is compared to the full circular field of view.  It is not tiny at all, which was my primary complaint of the Cyclops.

Etched reticle, adjustable diopter, bight illumination, great glass.

I think this optic is a winner
3/14/2020 10:28:29 PM EDT
[#2]
What's the AD mil pricing going to look like?  I was considering the Swampfox Blade @ $207 shipped with mil pricing but this looks pretty good too.
3/15/2020 10:20:05 AM EDT
[#3]
closeup of reticle.  House is about 75 yards away

3/15/2020 12:13:58 PM EDT
[#4]
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Update that to 3/16 for pre order going live.
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How does the pre order work, will it be listed on your optics page?  Deposit or paid in full?  Any updates on timeline with China?
3/15/2020 1:23:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Ready for pre order, excited for this optic. Thanks MRW for the pics and review.
3/15/2020 4:38:28 PM EDT
[#6]
I took the PA 2x and the TA-45 1.5x ACOG out in the bright Florida sunshine this afternoon and looked around the neighborhood with both of them.  I put them on the top of a stool on my sidewalk, sat down behind them, and looked through them side by side.  As seen previously, the TA-45s field of view was smaller than the PA 2x, despite the PA having more magnification.  And honestly, I could perceive no advantage in image clarity in the ACOG. The PA's image was just as vivid and sharp. The test I used was trying to read street signs and license plates at the extreme edge of resolution, and in my opinion, it's resolution that matters more than magnification.  The PA glass seems exceptionally good and I would say its a tie.  The objective lens appears to be the same size on both of them, so there's no advantage of having a bigger aperture.

I then turned the brightness level up to 11 on the PA2x and tried to find a spot in the neighborhood that was so bright that the reticle washed out.  I could not find one.  I even pointed it at the brightest-lit cloud in the sunny sky, and the reticle was still clearly seen.  I would say it's daylight bright.

Here is an extreme close-up crop of the reticle today.  The stop sign is a measured 200 yards away. I could clearly resolve the chevron tip when placed inside the "O" of the word STOP on the sign, meaning that if I were shooting, I could see clearly enough to place rounds in the center of the O at 200 yards. Keep in mind this is a cell phone picture taken through the optic.  I'm very impressed.

3/15/2020 5:32:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Yeah. PA just take muh munie already
3/16/2020 1:28:13 PM EDT
[#8]
WE'RE WAITING...DROP ALREADY!
3/16/2020 3:16:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Looks like Coronavirus wins this round
3/16/2020 3:55:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Pre order is live for early May delivery!!

LINK TO 5.56 VERSION

LINK TO 7.62 VERSION

3/16/2020 4:14:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Aaaaaaand I promptly ordered the wrong reticle.  

Email sent to customer service!
3/16/2020 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#12]
YES! PA: 1 - COVID: 0
3/16/2020 5:38:39 PM EDT
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Aaaaaaand I promptly ordered the wrong reticle.  

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Shit. I did the same exact thing.
3/16/2020 6:29:00 PM EDT
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Shit. I did the same exact thing.
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Miss K. quickly straightened out my screwup. PA customer service is on point!
3/16/2020 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Does my card get charged now or later for a preorder? How can I confirm I’m getting mil pricing, I applied but have not seen anything back via email.
3/16/2020 9:19:51 PM EDT
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Does my card get charged now or later for a preorder? How can I confirm I’m getting mil pricing, I applied but have not seen anything back via email.
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You will see a pre auth show up when you place the preorder. That drops off and will not be on your monthly bill.  We don't actually bill it until it ships. Did the Mil discount show in the cart when placed the order. PM me you email address and I can check
3/16/2020 10:16:33 PM EDT
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You will see a pre auth show up when you place the preorder. That drops off and will not be on your monthly bill.  We don't actually bill it until it ships. Did the Mil discount show in the cart when placed the order. PM me you email address and I can check
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Thx, I’ll send you a PM.

Edit: Good to go, thanks! ????
3/18/2020 7:35:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Things still looking good with the pre-order and may shipment.

I already pre-ordered mine and am excited.
3/19/2020 6:38:38 AM EDT
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Okay, I just went outside at dusk and took these pictures

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/PA_2x_Reticle_Dusk_75_yards_small-1316160.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/TA45_1_5x_ACOG_Reticle_Dusk_75_yards_sma-1316162.jpg

Note the field of view (side to side breadth)  of the 2.0x PA  v the 1.5x ACOG.  It deceptively looks like the ACOG has more magnification, but it doesn't.  The 2.0x PA shows a much larger view AND has slightly more magnification.  The ACOG field of view feels very tight by comparison.  
The image on the ACOG photograph is not as clear as the PA because the sun was setting and I took the ACOG picture last.  I will try to get some photographs that show the clarity of the two optics during full daylight.

Also note how large the horseshoe is compared to the full circular field of view.  It is not tiny at all, which was my primary complaint of the Cyclops.

Etched reticle, adjustable diopter, bight illumination, great glass.

I think this optic is a winner
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That is impressive, thanks for sharing. I wasn’t that excited about this at first glance, but I just got a cyclops and it’s my first prism type optic and the more I look at this 2x the more I like it, I had settled on the gen III 3x for an old colt hbar I need an optic for but this is optic is making me reconsider.

Also a 4x prism in the GLx line with the the acss reticle from the 5x slx prism would be awesome to see.
3/19/2020 9:32:02 PM EDT
[#20]
What RS regulate upper will this use ?
3/19/2020 9:38:04 PM EDT
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What RS regulate upper will this use ?
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I don't understand this question at all.  What do you mean?
3/20/2020 1:20:36 AM EDT
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What RS regulate upper will this use ?
I don't understand this question at all.  What do you mean?
I think it's the Compact ACOG mount
3/20/2020 9:47:26 AM EDT
[#23]
Okay, an AK mount?  I has 3 standard ACOG type mounting holes on the bottom of the optic housing.
3/20/2020 3:53:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Yes standard Mini Acog mount works
3/21/2020 12:18:07 AM EDT
[#25]
Please offer an FDE model. Make it a darker FDE so no one bitches about the color match.
3/23/2020 1:50:59 PM EDT
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The one with the single screw or double?
3/26/2020 8:47:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Ok, I give up. Putting in a pre-order. The resolution, chevron/donut sizing and field of view just tick all the boxes I want for my SBR, along with the weight. I'm almost tempted to put one on my WWSD build and stick the GLx 2.5-10 on my older dmr type upper again. I won't be able to see bullet holes in the target anymore, but it'll shave the extra weight back off and per the pics in this thread it's more than capable of what I want at 200 yards or more. It's not like the upper's a precision build that needs the 10x for more precise aim, it's a 1.5-2.5moa with most ammo build that is super light and fast. Seems ideal for one of these.

eta: had to pick which to at least start with. I guess I'm putting it on the lightweight 16" build because I got the 223/308 version not the 300blk/commie version. I'll definitely be doing some videos on it once it arrives, more in depth and in the field than for the 2.5-10 since it won't be a frozen wasteland. I'm still loving that 2.5-10 and everyone who uses it is impressed.
3/26/2020 1:54:20 PM EDT
[#28]
I just had a friend over to shoot the breeze and let him see the 2x. He peeked through it and liked it.  Then I handed him my 1.5x TA-45 ACOG and his reaction was great, wait-this is the ACOG? damn.

Edit: to be clear, he preferred the PA.
3/26/2020 2:00:54 PM EDT
[#29]
@MARSH1 do you guys have a plan for an FDE model? I think this might be perfect for my 10.5.
3/26/2020 2:21:47 PM EDT
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I just had a friend over to shoot the breeze and let him see the 2x. He peeked through it and liked it.  Then I handed him my 1.5x TA-45 ACOG and his reaction was great, wait-this is the ACOG? damn.
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...he preferred the ACOG?
3/26/2020 6:19:37 PM EDT
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...he preferred the ACOG?
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NO
3/27/2020 9:09:10 AM EDT
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I just had a friend over to shoot the breeze and let him see the 2x. He peeked through it and liked it.  Then I handed him my 1.5x TA-45 ACOG and his reaction was great, wait-this is the ACOG? damn.

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Was it just the extra .5 mag or anything else specific about the PA he mentioned?
3/27/2020 10:12:02 AM EDT
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@MARSH1 do you guys have a plan for an FDE model? I think this might be perfect for my 10.5.
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Not yet. We are just trying to get product in stock.  Colors and other reticles will have to wait.
3/27/2020 1:00:52 PM EDT
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Was it just the extra .5 mag or anything else specific about the PA he mentioned?
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Filed of view, size of reticle in the viewing window, and clarity and crispness of the glass.  He said he did not think the ACOG glass is better, and I agree, at least looking around my neighborhood on a bright sunny day from inside my darkened garage.
3/28/2020 3:59:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Pssst, hey MRW.  Glamor/action/porn shots of the GLX-2x...

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3/28/2020 8:04:23 PM EDT
[#36]
Well, no.  But actually, yes.

i'm working on a batch of them
3/29/2020 6:37:57 AM EDT
[#37]
I video of the camera behind the rear lens would be great.

-Bryan
3/29/2020 4:39:28 PM EDT
[#38]
Interested!

Am i reading there is a shake awake and sleep feature for illumination?
Can we get more details on how that works?

3/29/2020 5:21:41 PM EDT
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Interested!

Am i reading there is a shake awake and sleep feature for illumination?
Can we get more details on how that works?

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Per the owners manual:

"This GLx 2x Prism Scope features the AutoLive™ reticle illumination technology, which turns your illumination off after three minutes of stillness to save your battery life – then automatically back on again at the slightest motion."

AutoLive is very handy...but not so good if this optic is intended to be used on a weapon that will be kept in a vehicle...in which case, you can turn the shake awake feature off by turning the illumination knob to "0" (off).
3/30/2020 2:31:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Hmmm...this sounds like a reasonable replacement for the ACSS RDS and magnifier to me.
3/30/2020 11:58:38 PM EDT
[#41]
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Filed of view, size of reticle in the viewing window, and clarity and crispness of the glass.  He said he did not think the ACOG glass is better, and I agree, at least looking around my neighborhood on a bright sunny day from inside my darkened garage.
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Cool, thanks, I've always had an itch for a TA44 but just couldn't justify the cost for what this would get used for, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on this optic.
3/31/2020 6:49:44 AM EDT
[#42]
Can we get this reticle added to Strelok? I want to check drops before adding to cart...

Or what is the moa appended by the tip of chevron to the bottom corners and then tip to dots?
4/1/2020 4:14:43 PM EDT
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Well, no.  But actually, yes.

i'm working on a batch of them
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4/1/2020 5:35:44 PM EDT
[#44]
How about the 12% coupon for this optic ...
4/1/2020 6:10:16 PM EDT
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Let's me think about that.

1: The factory was shut down for two months and is backlogged for months.

2: We are in the midsts of the greatest panic buying ever seen.



4/1/2020 6:40:45 PM EDT
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Let's me think about that.

1: The factory was shut down for two months and is backlogged for months.

2: We are in the midsts of the greatest panic buying ever seen.



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So shipping date pushed to June?
4/1/2020 8:36:12 PM EDT
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Let's me think about that.

1: The factory was shut down for two months and is backlogged for months.

2: We are in the midsts of the greatest panic buying ever seen.



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Thanks for the thought !

Look if you need toilet paper I have some or I can send you one of my garden hoses if you think your going to run out .
4/1/2020 8:54:31 PM EDT
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So shipping date pushed to June?
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Yes are we still on track for may or is this looking more like summer time?
4/2/2020 8:44:23 AM EDT
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Yes are we still on track for may or is this looking more like summer time?
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I hope not out to summer. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for late spring shipment. As things get sportier and sportier, my rifle NEEDS this optic.
4/2/2020 9:37:21 AM EDT
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Let's me think about that.

1: The factory was shut down for two months and is backlogged for months.

2: We are in the midsts of the greatest panic buying ever seen.



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Edited to add more humor and make it clearer I didn't mean it as a jab.

Marshall's a nice guy and all, but let's face it, business is business and toilet paper doesn't grow on trees.... waaaaait a minute. lol.

It's already a damn good price for what we're getting if the reports are even remotely accurate, and I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Personally I'm looking forward to getting mine in. It still blows my mind that the 2.5-10x GLx videos are my most popular, so maybe this will not just be another great optic for me but a boost for my channel. 1k views between the two videos and I only have 12 subscribers, so clearly folks were workin that search function.

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