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2/12/2018 6:51:35 PM EDT
[#1]
On sale again for 250
2/12/2018 8:16:32 PM EDT
[#2]
That's a giant kick in the nuts for me. I've been trying to catch that deal since Christmas. Caved and bought 2 Anderson lowers for $70 this past weekend. Sine I live in Commie MD can't buy another lower for 60 days. Hard to beat a factory Colt lower for $250.
2/12/2018 10:58:06 PM EDT
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I could use some more but not at that price.
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Says in stock again.

@ $399.
I could use some more but not at that price.
Same. I can wait.
2/12/2018 11:08:29 PM EDT
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Says in stock again.

@ $399.
I could use some more but not at that price.
Same. I can wait.  
@Tigwelder1971 - you better check again. They showed at $399 when I got email notification this afternoon but they're back to $249 now. Coupon code LDN knocks another $20 off, so total is $239 shipped with their $10 FFL fee.

Buy them so I don't have to.
2/12/2018 11:14:29 PM EDT
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@Tigwelder1971 - you better check again. They showed at $399 when I got email notification this afternoon but they're back to $249 now. Coupon code LDN knocks another $20 off, so total is $239 shipped with their $10 FFL fee.

Buy them so I don't have to.
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Says in stock again.

@ $399.
I could use some more but not at that price.
Same. I can wait.  
@Tigwelder1971 - you better check again. They showed at $399 when I got email notification this afternoon but they're back to $249 now. Coupon code LDN knocks another $20 off, so total is $239 shipped with their $10 FFL fee.

Buy them so I don't have to.
@grondike

Shit!

I hadn't checked since this afternoon.

Thanks for the heads up man.

Eta: guess I'm headed to Grinnell area tomorrow....
2/13/2018 5:57:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Well its money I didn't need to spend, but I want an M4 marked lower for my Mk18 build...
2/15/2018 8:53:54 AM EDT
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I ordered one up yesterday. 249 bucks plus their 10.00 FFL fee.

With free shipping & 20% off coupon it was 239.00.
2/16/2018 8:13:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Wanted one for the URGI I've got on preorder, picked one up as well. Good timing, sold out today.
2/25/2018 1:55:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Back in stock again, but not on sale (yet?).
2/25/2018 3:46:29 PM EDT
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Been like that since Wednesday  I believe?

Wonder if guys are paying the 4 bills???
2/25/2018 11:23:25 PM EDT
[#11]
I need a couple more... But not at $399. I'm guessing they will hold off on the sale until the politics are set aside.
3/4/2018 8:26:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Ended up snagging one of the CDNN complete lowers.

It's an LE, which is what I wanted. But not crazy about the new font change. Especially on the fire/safe markings. Has anyone else seen this?





If anyone has a new, basic 6920 lower they wanna trade for this one, let me know. I'll ship to any FFL that accepts transfers from private people. :P
3/4/2018 8:58:51 PM EDT
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Ended up snagging one of the CDNN complete lowers.

It's an LE, which is what I wanted. But not crazy about the new font change. Especially on the fire/safe markings. Has anyone else seen this?

https://i.imgur.com/WEtzPDU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9cjQP4b.jpg

If anyone has a new, basic 6920 lower they wanna trade for this one, let me know. I'll ship to any FFL that accepts transfers from private people. :P
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Those are entirely engraved, not rolled.
3/5/2018 11:44:15 AM EDT
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And fugly.
3/5/2018 11:54:44 PM EDT
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Ended up snagging one of the CDNN complete lowers.

It's an LE, which is what I wanted. But not crazy about the new font change. Especially on the fire/safe markings. Has anyone else seen this?

https://i.imgur.com/WEtzPDU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9cjQP4b.jpg

If anyone has a new, basic 6920 lower they wanna trade for this one, let me know. I'll ship to any FFL that accepts transfers from private people. :P
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Is that an Expanse lower?
3/6/2018 12:14:13 AM EDT
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Negative. Marked with the m4 carbine and 5.56mm just like my 6920 lower. Except this one doesnt suffer from the CC_T marking. S/n of LE67xxxx

Haven’t been able to find pictures of another like it. Beyond weird.

I’d post the link to it, but I dunno if that’s allowed. The pictures they used were all traditional Lowers. I emailed and asked if they were LE prefixes. They replied they were. And to be fair, they weren’t wrong.
3/6/2018 7:34:55 AM EDT
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I've come across a few Expanse guns with M4 carbine rollmarks and LE prefix S/N.

First one I've seen with the new font for selector markings.
3/7/2018 9:23:49 AM EDT
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Negative. Marked with the m4 carbine and 5.56mm just like my 6920 lower. Except this one doesnt suffer from the CC_T marking. S/n of LE67xxxx

Haven’t been able to find pictures of another like it. Beyond weird.

I’d post the link to it, but I dunno if that’s allowed. The pictures they used were all traditional Lowers. I emailed and asked if they were LE prefixes. They replied they were. And to be fair, they weren’t wrong.
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They have "Socom Colt Upper Receivers" and are actually expanse HB receivers listed as well.
I called about the lowers and the guy seemed clueless and couldn't tell me it was from a 6920.
I got the inkling they were...
3/8/2018 10:26:29 AM EDT
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That receiver also doesn’t have the dot matrix
Odd
3/8/2018 11:36:37 AM EDT
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They have "Socom Colt Upper Receivers" and are actually expanse HB receivers listed as well.
I called about the lowers and the guy seemed clueless and couldn't tell me it was from a 6920.
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Only certain personell are allowed into the gun room at Brownells (Grinnell location).

Orders are called back, an employee brings them out. Employees cannot go search/sort/verify specifics.

You buy it, then they fetch it. Don't like/want it, return and restock fee.

I had to near throw a fit to ensure LE prefix, finally the gun manager hooked me up.
3/9/2018 2:43:02 PM EDT
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I BOUGHT AT $200 AT BROWNELLS,
NOW:
100-025-281WB - Mfr Part: SP633784 - $399.99
WHY SUCH A JUMP IN PRICE?
3/9/2018 3:47:20 PM EDT
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I BOUGHT AT $200 AT BROWNELLS,
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They had a bunch of blems on sale a couple months ago
3/9/2018 6:27:53 PM EDT
[#23]
They were not Blems - well at least they were not sold as such when I ordered.
I suspect other cos bitched, and Colt leaned on Brownells to raise the price?
3/9/2018 8:05:37 PM EDT
[#24]
Brownells bought a ton of them from Colt and wanted to recoup their money quickly, now Colt is refusing to sell lowers again so whatever is on the market is all there is going to be unless their imbecile for a lawyer realizes they aren't in the business of selling cotton candy and allows them to sell guns like they're supposed to
3/9/2018 9:00:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Thanks.
I have always wondered about Colt's marketing.
What a waste to have such a great name and products, and not make them readily available to public sales.
3/9/2018 11:54:16 PM EDT
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Brownells bought a ton of them from Colt and wanted to recoup their money quickly, now Colt is refusing to sell lowers again so whatever is on the market is all there is going to be unless their imbecile for a lawyer realizes they aren't in the business of selling cotton candy and allows them to sell guns like they're supposed to
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3/12/2018 9:27:00 PM EDT
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Ended up snagging one of the CDNN complete lowers.

It's an LE, which is what I wanted. But not crazy about the new font change. Especially on the fire/safe markings. Has anyone else seen this?

https://i.imgur.com/WEtzPDU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9cjQP4b.jpg

If anyone has a new, basic 6920 lower they wanna trade for this one, let me know. I'll ship to any FFL that accepts transfers from private people. :P
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Another member here posted a match to this lower. Purchased through CDNN as well.

Talking to Colt CS, he was told that they are not Colt produced, rather by a subcontractor. (Colt Competition???)

Colt CS would not confirm/deny.

Eta: Thread link
3/13/2018 8:14:43 PM EDT
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Brownells was mentioned in the other thread to stop advertising it as a factory assembled lower.  Has anyone that bought one from Brownells received one that is engraved and not stamped like the CDNN lowers?
3/13/2018 9:43:46 PM EDT
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Here's a new one...CR prefix that appears to be raised rather than engraved or rollmarked.   Or is it an optical illusion?

(Pic borrowed from a current EE ad.

3/13/2018 9:47:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Better resolution..
3/14/2018 8:11:49 AM EDT
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Brownells was mentioned in the other thread to stop advertising it as a factory assembled lower.  Has anyone that bought one from Brownells received one that is engraved and not stamped like the CDNN lowers?
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Mine was roll  marked because the infamous L was missing. It is NOTHING like the CDNN lowers. Thats basically what made me hold off. Ended up snagging one off of EE instead.
3/14/2018 4:16:23 PM EDT
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I find it hard to believe that the Brownells lowers aren't factory assembled.  I, on the other hand, don't find it hard to believe that CDNN's aren't.  They have a bit of an alleged history of putting together parts guns.  I think I remember several threads about their retro colt offerings being pieced together per Specialized Armament.
3/14/2018 10:57:19 PM EDT
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Only certain personell are allowed into the gun room at Brownells (Grinnell location).

Orders are called back, an employee brings them out. Employees cannot go search/sort/verify specifics.

You buy it, then they fetch it. Don't like/want it, return and restock fee.

I had to near throw a fit to ensure LE prefix, finally the gun manager hooked me up.
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I was referencing CDNN, I think I remember reading you mentioned that with Brownells.
3/14/2018 11:00:08 PM EDT
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I find it hard to believe that the Brownells lowers aren't factory assembled.  I, on the other hand, don't find it hard to believe that CDNN's aren't.  They have a bit of an alleged history of putting together parts guns.  I think I remember several threads about their retro colt offerings being pieced together per Specialized Armament.
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When I called, and I quote, “idk what they are. They are colt lowers straight from the factory”

I think they are splitting up expanse and selling the lowers and uppers seperate. Makes sense why have expanse uppers and lowers for sale. Part # on upper cane back to expanse if I remember correctly. He didn’t have a model or part # for the lower.
3/14/2018 11:21:09 PM EDT
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Double tap
3/15/2018 3:11:13 AM EDT
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Strange:
I just went to the Brownells site and reviewed their Colt M4 lower assemblies. They state as follows:
"The Colt AR-15 M4 Complete Lower Receiver is built using the same parts and the same attention to detail as the company's popular line of LE6920 AR-15 rifles." This may suggest a third party or may not.
I any event, I was convinced in reading their description and reviewing the product I bought (with CR serial No.) that it is a Colt product with the stated Colt Mfr Part: SP633784.
I either bought a true Colt lower or I bought a clone/copy. Now if it was manufactured by Colt Competition and hence not a true Colt, but now it is sold as true Colt, I'd need to question what is going on.
Admittedly, I am very confused and feel that Colt should set the story straight.
3/15/2018 6:41:46 AM EDT
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I was referencing CDNN, I think I remember reading you mentioned that with Brownells.
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My bad.
3/15/2018 6:43:06 AM EDT
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I just went to the Brownells site and reviewed their Colt M4 lower assemblies.<
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Let us know if you ever get a straight answer there.
3/16/2018 2:27:15 PM EDT
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I questioned Brownells as to my confusion to know who had effectively built the Colt lowers they offer with CR serial numbers (COLT - AR-15 M4 COMPLETE LOWER RECEIVER 5.56MM). This is their answer and I am delighted.
Thank you Brownells!
"Colt has verified that these are Colt manufactured and were never produced by Colt competition or any other contractor. Much as many other manufacturers do, serial numbers lots are not indefinite and once that allotted number is maxed out, the serial prefix must be changed."
3/16/2018 3:47:29 PM EDT
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I questioned Brownells as to my confusion to know who had effectively built the Colt lowers they offer with CR serial numbers (COLT - AR-15 M4 COMPLETE LOWER RECEIVER 5.56MM). This is their answer and I am delighted.
Thank you Brownells!
"Colt has verified that these are Colt manufactured and were never produced by Colt competition or any other contractor. Much as many other manufacturers do, serial numbers lots are not indefinite and once that allotted number is maxed out, the serial prefix must be changed."
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Colt has stated that the LE prefix is a thing of the past. All new M4 carbine receivers are CR prefix. And that LE never indicated "law enforcement " as many of us speculated.  Simply an alpha prefix used to ID a SN range.
3/17/2018 12:00:31 PM EDT
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I can understanding serial number allotments.  But what's the highest LE serial number?  Some of the lowers posted recently were in the LE 3xx,xxx range.  With the controversy over the CE Expanse lowers, seems it would have been more marketable to use LF, or something other than a 'C'.

But then again, Colt has never been known for marketing acumen.
3/17/2018 12:22:59 PM EDT
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100% agree.
3/17/2018 12:30:05 PM EDT
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I have always questioned Colt's Marketing as not being customer friendly for parts.
I just went to their site and it looks like they are setting up a storefront to sell parts! Nice move!
3/17/2018 5:00:02 PM EDT
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I have always questioned Colt's Marketing as not being customer friendly for parts.
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I mean, everyone laments that Colt doesn't sell things direct, but do you really want to deal with them vs Midway or Brownells for parts?
3/18/2018 1:31:57 PM EDT
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Good point NightOwl.
I'd expect to see a full listing of parts at Colt and still have Brownells (Great Co for me!) and Midway and xxx offering Colt parts.
Have you noticed how many parts are not available and discontinued (at B and M).
3/18/2018 8:11:24 PM EDT
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Good point NightOwl.
I'd expect to see a full listing of parts at Colt and still have Brownells (Great Co for me!) and Midway and xxx offering Colt parts.
Have you noticed how many parts are not available and discontinued (at B and M).
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I'd think the main advantage would be for some of the parts that Brownells/ Midway haven't ordered yet, but then you'd still depend on Colt actually loading them to a website.
3/20/2018 8:41:52 AM EDT
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I find it hard to believe that the Brownells lowers aren't factory assembled.  I, on the other hand, don't find it hard to believe that CDNN's aren't.  They have a bit of an alleged history of putting together parts guns.  I think I remember several threads about their retro colt offerings being pieced together per Specialized Armament.
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As someone who has bought a lower from CDNN, Armsunlimited and Brownells, I can tell you that the packaging on the Brownells one indicates that it is a factory, unassembled lower.

My FFL also transferred it as an "other" based on the packaging.  I had no qualms with ripping off the stock and RE to put a pistol tube and brace on it.
3/20/2018 10:57:04 AM EDT
[#48]
Every time I see this thread get bumped, my hope is that they're back on sale so I can get another one. My hopes are dashed yet again.

3/20/2018 10:10:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Not the $249 price...but "sale" at $349 now.  
3/21/2018 3:19:03 AM EDT
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Prices on these lowers are like plane ticket prices.
I bought at $199.99 late December and recently saw them at $399.00..... must be a very high demand?

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