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11/10/2018 10:48:19 AM EDT
Does anybody know how many of these were made in 2018.This weapon has u.s.govt property and m4a1 rolled mark lower receiver.Iam looking at getting one of these,they say a limited number were made. Thanks to all that reply.
11/10/2018 12:09:21 PM EDT
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There’s a lot of information in the 2017 SOCOM 14.5 post about the 2018s. I’m not sure about numbers produced though .
11/11/2018 2:28:31 PM EDT
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There were roughly 250 of the 2017 SOCOMS made. There have been many, many of the 2018 SOCOMs made and sold. They are still in production.
11/16/2018 1:22:25 AM EDT
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So all of the 2018 SOCOMs are US gov property marked right?
11/16/2018 7:32:52 AM EDT
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Correct.
11/16/2018 8:00:12 PM EDT
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I am glad to see there are plenty around still. Hope to get one after Christmas.
11/19/2018 5:28:15 PM EDT
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It's worth noting that a lot of the 2018 do not have BCG or the Bolt marked "C."
11/19/2018 5:35:30 PM EDT
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I appreciate the information. One thing I like about this industry section is the details that we get to discuss. Overall, the absence of a 'C' on parts is of no consequence to me. I understand Colt not doing this anymore as they try to reduce manufacturing cost to be competitive. They were paying someone to physically stamp that part and it just isn't worth it for them. People that put an emphasis on the 'C' are a very small part of the consumer base.
11/24/2018 12:39:29 AM EDT
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I appreciate the information. One thing I like about this industry section is the details that we get to discuss. Overall, the absence of a 'C' on parts is of no consequence to me. I understand Colt not doing this anymore as they try to reduce manufacturing cost to be competitive. They were paying someone to physically stamp that part and it just isn't worth it for them. People that put an emphasis on the 'C' are a very small part of the consumer base.
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Well I ordered one tonite, should have it in a week and I will post some pics and a brief review.

It will be my first NIB Colt since 1988
11/24/2018 1:14:27 PM EDT
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I appreciate the information. One thing I like about this industry section is the details that we get to discuss. Overall, the absence of a 'C' on parts is of no consequence to me. I understand Colt not doing this anymore as they try to reduce manufacturing cost to be competitive. They were paying someone to physically stamp that part and it just isn't worth it for them. People that put an emphasis on the 'C' are a very small part of the consumer base.
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Agreed. The only reason that C matters is if you want to sell the BCG, otherwise function is priority #1 and I've noticed no difference.
11/24/2018 1:26:51 PM EDT
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Here's mine that I picked up yesterday from my FFL. Looks quite nice, but (as has happened to other folks) I was shorted the vertical grip and short rail panel. Guess I'll be calling Colt on Monday. Notice, though, that they included seven of the larger rail panels. WTF?

11/24/2018 1:47:02 PM EDT
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With all this talk about the rail covers I am going to have to get mine out of the box and see what I have.  What is supposed to come with the rifle?  I know a vertical grip came with mine.
11/24/2018 1:53:54 PM EDT
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Did they get the roll marks fixed? The first batch had very light roll marks on the left.
11/24/2018 2:00:24 PM EDT
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Mine looks well rendered.
11/24/2018 3:57:59 PM EDT
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Here's mine that I picked up yesterday from my FFL. Looks quite nice, but (as has happened to other folks) I was shorted the vertical grip and short rail panel. Guess I'll be calling Colt on Monday. Notice, though, that they included seven of the larger rail panels. WTF?

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Nice

Cant wait to get mine, sadly it will never be fired as I am getting it for my colt collection.
11/26/2018 9:47:58 PM EDT
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I’m in the market for one these for my Mk18 mod 1 clone - who has the best price on these right now?

Thanks
12/5/2018 7:03:05 AM EDT
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Kudos to Colt Customer Service for getting my missing VFG and short rail panel out to me. Took a week from initial request.
12/7/2018 12:29:17 AM EDT
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Hello,
I never thought to take a look at what components were in my "kit bag" until this thread. I've purchased multiple M4A1's over the past year and each kit has the same kit # on it (and operator #). Not sure what those mean, as I've never opened the bags; however, each bag has different inventory in them.

All bags have some KAC panels (some more than others), only one bag has a VFG, one bag has two magazines instead of one, one bag has a sling while the others don't.

Would you mind sharing the colt number you used to get your parts recovered? I'd love go get complete rail panel kits and a VFG for each rifle.

Thanks in advance.
12/7/2018 11:30:08 AM EDT
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Their Customer Service number is 800-962-2658, and is the one I used.
12/7/2018 10:56:20 PM EDT
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Much appreciated.
12/7/2018 11:03:04 PM EDT
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The right side of this illustration shows you how many of each size rail cover is in an M4 RAS rail cover kit. The kit also includes the vinyl pouch and the foregrip.

12/8/2018 10:29:11 AM EDT
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Minuteman, that's a pretty cool chart. Did it come from a manual or display?
12/8/2018 10:44:51 AM EDT
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That is a page out of the joint service M16/M4 Technical Manual (TM). The illustration on the left is for the M5 RAS and the illustration on the right is for the M4 RAS.
12/13/2018 1:14:06 AM EDT
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A little late, I got this a few weeks ago. Not sure it was worth the $1400 I paid for it, but what the hell It really looks good.



12/13/2018 7:47:20 PM EDT
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Great pics!..I am glad I picked up mine
12/14/2018 7:34:24 PM EDT
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. Not sure it was worth the $1400 I paid for it, but what the hell It really looks good.
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You are right, in today’s market comparing what’s out there price it probably isn’t worth the price.  At some point in the future it will be though.
12/15/2018 12:32:06 PM EDT
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There were roughly 250 of the 2017 SOCOMS made. There have been many, many of the 2018 SOCOMs made and sold. They are still in production.
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^^ this.

I would not say many, though.  I "know somebody who knows somebody in the know" and it is still a very small part of the production and sale of the LE6920 line, but it is continuing.  While no longer rare, it is a small number being sent to distributors every month.  Under 50 per month is what I am hearing.  So, from June to December, that gives you around 300, maybe 500 tops so far.  The 2017 line was a discrete number, like @Minuteman1636 mentioned.
12/15/2018 12:49:44 PM EDT
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I have one of the older 2013 SOCOMs. I think that there were more of them made than 2017's (?).
1/2/2019 10:26:10 PM EDT
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Very few 2017s made was my understanding. I'm thinking 2018 numbers are quite high. Wish I had numbers for every year of production.

I also have an older one. Bought from someone who bought two and wanted to unload a spare. Didn't get an accessory pack if there was one for the older rifles, just a silent sling, matech rear, three of the full length ("11 rib") rail covers and magazine. Can't complain though, paid $950 with a red dot already mounted and only an estimated 100 rounds through the rifle. Removed the red dot, got the VFG, SOPMOD stock, vickers sling, Surefire scout and an ACOG. It is my #1 go to for all around duty. Groups with hand loads thus far are under 1.5" at 100 yds prone without bags or bipod with bulk Hornady 55gr SP projectiles. Color me impressed, this barrel can stack rounds. Will keep searching for heavier and more consistent loads (working on 69gr MatchKings) but that meets my criteria of darn good with bulk projectiles and no bags.

For those who are collecting them, more power to you, but I truly feel these deserve to be used. Buy a spare barrel and go play with it, real issued ones are beat to hell and unless you throw it down the driveway you'll certainly be more kind to it than the men who are issued them.
1/3/2019 11:22:05 PM EDT
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Fair statement @leadbreakfast about the SOCOM's should be shot. I have a regular 6920 that I will shoot and plan to keep my 2017 SOCOM NIB. I hope to get a 2018 SOCOM this year to go with it.
1/4/2019 4:31:02 PM EDT
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Very few 2017s made was my understanding. I'm thinking 2018 numbers are quite high. Wish I had numbers for every year of production.
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The 250 number resounds on the 2017, and 2018 is turning out to be higher, but I do not think "quite high."  It is a very small number of 6920s produced and sold.  I have seen some numbers from non-public sources, and while it is not an exact number, I can back into some other facts.  While higher, it is still a small number.
1/5/2019 1:30:35 PM EDT
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Just got this one in.  No Colt markings on the upper.  And the port side has the stickiness of a leftover sticker.   Never really seen this from Colt.  carrier was stamped C, so go figure.  I will call Colt to have them send a replacement upper.

I am a Colt fan, for sure, but you just wonder about final QA process.

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1/5/2019 6:10:21 PM EDT
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Just got this one in.  No Colt markings on the upper.  And the port side has the stickiness of a leftover sticker.   Never really seen this from Colt.  carrier was stamped C, so go figure.  I will call Colt to have them send a replacement upper.

I am a Colt fan, for sure, but you just wonder about final QA process.

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That’s piss poor on a $1400 gun.  I’d read somewhere (probably here) they were having problems and/or resourcing issues with their anodizing sub-contractor.  With the shit they’re turning out right now, it wouldn’t shock me if they’ve got some guy scanning gun.deals and just buying any cheap stripped upper that’s getting cleared out.

How’s the lower?  Noticeable flashing remains (at least you know it’s Colt) or clean?
1/5/2019 8:50:21 PM EDT
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That’s piss poor on a $1400 gun.  I’d read somewhere (probably here) they were having problems and/or resourcing issues with their anodizing sub-contractor.  With the shit they’re turning out right now, it wouldn’t shock me if they’ve got some guy scanning gun.deals and just buying any cheap stripped upper that’s getting cleared out.

How’s the lower?  Noticeable flashing remains (at least you know it’s Colt) or clean?
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Just got this one in.  No Colt markings on the upper.  And the port side has the stickiness of a leftover sticker.   Never really seen this from Colt.  carrier was stamped C, so go figure.  I will call Colt to have them send a replacement upper.

I am a Colt fan, for sure, but you just wonder about final QA process.

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That’s piss poor on a $1400 gun.  I’d read somewhere (probably here) they were having problems and/or resourcing issues with their anodizing sub-contractor.  With the shit they’re turning out right now, it wouldn’t shock me if they’ve got some guy scanning gun.deals and just buying any cheap stripped upper that’s getting cleared out.

How’s the lower?  Noticeable flashing remains (at least you know it’s Colt) or clean?
Besides the cage code, what else is missing?
1/5/2019 10:05:51 PM EDT
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1/5/2019 11:00:01 PM EDT
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Just got this one in.  No Colt markings on the upper.  And the port side has the stickiness of a leftover sticker.   Never really seen this from Colt.  carrier was stamped C, so go figure.  I will call Colt to have them send a replacement upper.

I am a Colt fan, for sure, but you just wonder about final QA process.

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Wow, no CAGE. Who did you buy it from?
1/6/2019 1:14:41 AM EDT
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Ugh...the cage code. Lol (used to be C mark on the upper prior to that).  What I’m assuming...they’re just buying uppers externally to build out now.  You use to be able to discern Colt by the C or cage code.  Lowers are obviously stamped with manu/make/model, but Colt never cared about cleaning up flashing/mold marks, especially inside the curve of the trigger area.  I’m curious if OP’s rifle has the usual flashing, or it’s it’a “clean.”   If they might be using other’s uppers, maybe they’re doing the same on lowers.

If it’s to the point where they’re nothing but a final assembler, what’s the point anymore?  It’s not value or customer service.  I went to a period from 2016-2017 where I spent a bunch of money on Colt rifles.  I want another 20” for an M16A4 clone build. But I have no desire to touch what they’re turning out currently.  Glad I grabbed a ‘17 SOCOM.
1/6/2019 5:58:01 AM EDT
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For my fellow Vets that have seen the real deal, how do the markings compare to the actual issued? Are they actually roll marked, or do they have that fake, engraved look like most 80% look?
1/6/2019 11:37:22 AM EDT
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Just got this one in.  No Colt markings on the upper.  And the port side has the stickiness of a leftover sticker.   Never really seen this from Colt.  carrier was stamped C, so go figure.  I will call Colt to have them send a replacement upper.

I am a Colt fan, for sure, but you just wonder about final QA process.

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@barrelnutz

This is the '18 SOCOM I picked up a couple weeks back; cage code upper, no C stamp on the carrier.  Odd your upper has no Colt markings; tagging in for more information...

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1/6/2019 11:37:46 AM EDT
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I guess it is the luck of the draw - My 18 Socom is almost flawless. Cage Code on upper and barrel but no C on the bolt carrier. Serial range CR02****

It also came with the extra KAC short cover and VFG in the goodie bag.
1/6/2019 12:19:10 PM EDT
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I guess it is the luck of the draw - My 18 Socom is almost flawless. Cage Code on upper and barrel but no C on the bolt carrier. Serial range CR02****

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I think that is the case.  Mine is not normal.  Most are in great condition, but go figure -- I got one of the few with a C marked carrier, but WTF -- where did the upper receiver come from?  Why would Colt have anything but Colt receivers?  Poor QA is my only compliant.  I am sure they will replace.
1/6/2019 2:57:48 PM EDT
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sooo.. poorly finished products are great ("thats just colt") but a missing c on an upper isnt, and is worthy of return? cant be a weapon of war without some stamping i guess. i can see a young, fresh faced shoulder getting issued a well worn m4, looking it over with a gleam in his eyes.. and then noticing the missing code. "give me another one!" he demands. "i cant depend on this rifle.. without a CAGE CODE!"
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sooo.. poorly finished products are great ("thats just colt") but a missing c on an upper isnt, and is worthy of return? cant be a weapon of war without some stamping i guess. i can see a young, fresh faced shoulder getting issued a well worn m4, looking it over with a gleam in his eyes.. and then noticing the missing code. "give me another one!" he demands. "i cant depend on this rifle.. without a CAGE CODE!"
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I absolutely agree with the take on a standard 6920 priced accordingly.  But the SOCOM and it’s $1400 price point is aimed at the Colt nerd.
1/6/2019 4:17:12 PM EDT
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Thank the Lord that we live in the greatest country on the planet and we can discuss and choose which firearm we purchase!
1/7/2019 2:35:50 PM EDT
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I think that is the case.  Mine is not normal.  Most are in great condition, but go figure -- I got one of the few with a C marked carrier, but WTF -- where did the upper receiver come from?  Why would Colt have anything but Colt receivers?  Poor QA is my only compliant.  I am sure they will replace.
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so what about the m4 stamp and do the T numbers  look correct for Colt ??
1/7/2019 2:44:11 PM EDT
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Im thinking about getting one ,  are they roll marked or engraved now?
1/7/2019 4:11:26 PM EDT
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Mine is typical Colt with stamped Cage Code and painted T #'s
1/7/2019 4:12:12 PM EDT
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Typical Colt rolled marked
1/7/2019 8:36:49 PM EDT
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It’s 50/50.  Serial is engraved as well as the Colt manufacture marks above the trigger.  Safe/semi is stamped as well as the “roll mark”.
1/24/2019 8:01:38 PM EDT
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Looks like Bud’s is finally out of stock on these

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