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8/13/2026 12:14:02 PM EDT
im guessing it means absolutly nothing for us?at least until ussc strikes down pica?
8/13/2026 1:32:13 PM EDT
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Chatgpt and I had a discussion about SBR's this morning. Here's the gist of it:

So the hypothetical chain is:

Already-grandfathered PICA AR pistol

Owner possesses a valid Type 03 C&R FFL

Jensen assumption eliminates the applicable federal NFA approval/registration requirement

Firearm becomes a shoulder-fired rifle while retaining <16" barrel

Illinois §24-2(c)(7)(A) provides the C&R licensee exemption from §24-1(a)(7)

Result: potentially lawful Illinois SBR possession

BUT: the entire theory ultimately turns on whether PICA considers that configuration change to be prohibited post-2023 manufacture of an assault weapon.

And there's a subtle point in your favor: PICA's endorsement itself is tied to the existing firearm's make/model/caliber/serial number, rather than creating a separate state “SBR registration.” That makes the argument that the grandfathered firearm remains the same firearm considerably more plausible.

So if I were ranking the legal issues:

Federal NFA: assuming Jensen applies → potentially no longer an obstacle.
Illinois SBR statute: C&R exception → unusually clear statutory exception.
PICA: the genuinely unresolved issue — whether the configuration change constitutes prohibited manufacture.

I would therefore characterize this as a plausible statutory pathway, not a confirmed legal pathway. Before anyone actually attempted the conversion, an Illinois attorney familiar with PICA would need to give an opinion on that third issue; the consequences of getting it wrong are substantial.
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8/15/2026 1:21:05 PM EDT
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So everyone needs to get their C&R on point for this?
8/15/2026 2:20:54 PM EDT
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So everyone needs to get their C&R on point for this?
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In theory, yes. Although you would need to have a registered pistol to start with.

The crux of the issue though is, and I quote, "whether PICA considers that configuration change to be prohibited post-2023 manufacture of an assault weapon".  Doing this without a definitive answer is almost guaranteed to get someone hemmed up if caught.
8/15/2026 10:59:43 PM EDT
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In theory, yes. Although you would need to have a registered pistol to start with.

The crux of the issue though is, and I quote, "whether PICA considers that configuration change to be prohibited post-2023 manufacture of an assault weapon".  Doing this without a definitive answer is almost guaranteed to get someone hemmed up if caught.
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This is where I feel like it’s grey. Short barreled rifles aren’t outright banned in Illinois the same way that suppressors are. So if someone were to hypothetically possess an “assault weapon” by the definition of PICA, had it registered as it was supposed to…. I’m not seeing why it would be an issue.

Registration percentages were extremely low compared to how many of these guns exist and are out in the wild. Someone getting caught with an SBR that had been made with an unregistered “assault weapon” might be getting their tit in a wringer on multiple fronts.

Stand by for Pritzker to push something through soon banning SBR’s specifically.
8/21/2026 11:12:43 AM EDT
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The ATF is still approving Form 1's in this state. During the whole Biden fiasco with pistol braces, I went ahead and did a Form 1 on a pistol I had registered with the state....that was AFTER PICA was already in effect. I already owned multiple, so I figured why not.
    I've had the same question about covered individuals in this state, when it comes to this new ruling. If you have a registered pistol and already have other registered SBR's, can you just slap a stock on it at this point? I don't see why not, but I haven't seen any definite answers and I'm not an attorney lol.

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