Posted: 8/19/2026 2:18:32 PM EDT
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The gun shop closest to me is "waiting on directions" from the ATF before going forward. I want a suppressor for my TX22. When is selling them in NorTX using just a 4473? |
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Originally Posted By refidnasb: Grabagun is in Coppell. I imagine(I would call and ask) it's just like buying a firearm from them online and then pickup after filling out a 4473 at their physical location there. Nope. They have a banner at the top of their site saying "🚨 NFA UPDATE: We are currently processing orders as usual while getting legal clarification. Stay tuned! 🚨" |
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Originally Posted By Dangus: I've got my eye on a can at Bauer if they'll accept an email receipt from my GOA renewal. GOA's website doesn't show jack for me.  In and out in 45 minutes. Two guys did their 4473 ahead of me. Two others were in line in front of me but wandered off. https://www.bauer-precision.com/blog/goa-members-can-now-buy-any-suppressor-sameday-at-bauer-precision/ |
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Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein: The gun shop closest to me is "waiting on directions" from the ATF before going forward. I want a suppressor for my TX22. When is selling them in NorTX using just a 4473? I am. email me at [email protected] |
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Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein: The gun shop closest to me is "waiting on directions" from the ATF before going forward. I want a suppressor for my TX22. When is selling them in NorTX using just a 4473? In south Texas, same problem. Dealers are afraid because ATF wont give clear instructions in writing. I ordered the can I wanted anyway. Put the Form4 in a folder of paperwork you DONT NEED. Texas does not regulate suppressors as weapons, and theres no need to carry the form4 with you. |
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On the GOA website register for an account BEFORE you give them money. You might be considered a member if you give them a donation and they might mail you a membership packet when they get around to it. If you register first, and then pay you will get a member ID number. |
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Originally Posted By Cpn_Ron: Any place in the Austin area? I know there was a huge crowd at Silencer Shop the other day but I haven’t stopped in. SS's 183 storefront is on my way home, there was the big ass line the other day but I haven't seen one since then. |
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Originally Posted By Cpn_Ron: Any place in the Austin area? I know there was a huge crowd at Silencer Shop the other day but I haven’t stopped in Take this for what it’s worth, but Reddit’s r/austinguns says that while they were selling them in the store, they had to be shipped to an FFL for pick-up. Supposedly, they had a list of FFLs who were willing to transfer them on a 4473 after receiving them. Their reasoning was they weren’t going to compete against their dealer network. One other detail that was mentioned was that they were only selling Silencer Shop inventory, but this wasn’t verified. Another poster mentioned that Watermark Arms near Austin in Liberty Hill was selling directly to the customer in their store. |
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Originally Posted By rx4spd: Take this for what it’s worth, but Reddit’s r/austinguns says that while they were selling them in the store, they had to be shipped to an FFL for pick-up. Supposedly, they had a list of FFLs who were willing to transfer them on a 4473 after receiving them. Their reasoning was they weren’t going to compete against their dealer network. One other detail that was mentioned was that they were only selling Silencer Shop inventory, but this wasn’t verified. Another poster mentioned that Watermark Arms near Austin in Liberty Hill was selling directly to the customer in their store. I bought from SS more than a decade ago when they were in their old location on Lake Creek Pkwy at 183. I picked those up at that location. SS now has a huge warehouse on 1431, and although I bought at their new location just south of 29 on 183, I figured I could go to the warehouse to pick up the can. Nope. They had it transferred to Watermark Arms a quarter mile away. Took two weeks for it to arrive. Pickup was, thankfully, free but did take a while on a Friday afternoon. |
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Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a: TSRA gives you a member card with number and expiration date if you sign up online. I went and got my can on 4473 only friday with a TSRA membership. Silencer Shop sale. <----Silencer Shop Professional dealer (who is transferring without a Your TSRA membership had nothing to do with it. Its the fact that the silencer was sourced from Silencer Shop. Wiley represented the plaintiffs in Silencer Shop Foundation vs ATF NFA Court Ruling Reshapes Compliance Following Wiley’s Successful Constitutional Challenge August 18, 2026 On August 5, 2026, Judge James Wesley Hendrix of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas entered final judgment and a permanent injunction in Silencer Shop Foundation v. ATF, No. 6:25-CV-056 (consolidated with Jensen v. ATF). In its Memorandum Opinion and Order, the court held that specified provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA) could no longer be sustained under the Taxing Clause or Congress’ other enumerated powers with respect to categories of NFA-regulated firearms – including suppressors – for which Congress reduced the federal transfer and making taxes to zero in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The court initially stayed the judgment for seven days from August 5, 2026, to permit the federal government to seek appellate relief. That stay expired at the end of the day on August 12. The relief Wiley helped the plaintiffs obtain is substantial, but party-specific: It bars enforcement of the challenged provisions against the named plaintiffs, members of the associational plaintiffs, and, where applicable, the plaintiffs’ agencies, political subdivisions, and customers. Whether the injunction protects any particular transaction depends on a party’s relationship to the plaintiffs, not on the ruling’s existence alone. All Gun Control Act (GCA) provisions, including Form 4473 and background-check requirements, remain in effect for the firearms covered under the injunction. This alert summarizes the scope of the injunction. The government’s position on many issues is unknown, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has not issued implementation guidance. It is unlikely that the ATF or the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) will issue guidance anytime soon. Unless otherwise noted, this alert assumes the Final Judgment remains in effect and has not been stayed, reversed, or modified on appeal, and it addresses federal law only – state law independently governs and varies significantly. Plaintiff-Sourced Silencers Moving Through Distribution Chains According to the judge’s opinion, commercial plaintiff’s silencers are covered through the entire distribution chain – distributor to dealer to end customer. The court held that “the injunction must reach the commercial plaintiffs’ customers – both current and future – to provide the commercial plaintiffs with complete, ‘forward-looking’ relief,” and grounded that holding in Mock v. Garland (“all of its downstream customers”) and NAGR v. Garland (“downstream customers of any commercial member of an Organizational Plaintiff”). Court Opinion at 61. SBR and SBS Transfers to Non-Licensees Still Require a Form 4 Short-barreled rifles (SBRs) and short-barreled shotguns (SBSs) cannot be transferred from Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to non-licensees without a Form 4. 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(4) – an unchallenged Gun Control Act provision – independently prohibits a licensee from delivering an SBR or SBS to a non-licensee absent specific Attorney General authorization, which in practice has meant an approved Form 4, unless and until ATF offers another form or mechanism. The injunction removes the NFA requirement but does not supply the § 922(b)(4) authorization. Voluntary Form 4 processing is the only clean path for these items for the time being. AOW Transfers to Non-Licensees Any other weapons (AOWs) may be transferred from FFLs to non-licensees for parties covered by the Silencer Shop Foundation case, but not for plaintiffs in the Jensen case. Section 922(b)(4) lists only SBRs, SBSs, machine guns, and destructive devices, so AOWs – like silencers – face no GCA transfer block. The injunction’s AOW relief runs through the Silencer Shop Foundation plaintiffs only; the Jensen plaintiffs lack standing as to AOWs. Coverage should accordingly be traced through a Silencer Shop Foundation commercial plaintiff or association (e.g., GOA, FRAC, GOF). Association Members Purchasing From Non-Covered Dealers When a member of a plaintiff organization purchases a silencer sourced from non-covered entities at a non-covered dealer, the member’s own receipt and possession are covered. However the Form 4 requirement technically falls on the transferor (dealer). Thus, it is possible the non-covered FFL’s sale to a covered party could be outside the scope of the injunction. Association Members Making Their Own SBRs A member of a plaintiff organization who wishes to make an SBR from a pistol is covered as to the enjoined making, registration, and possession provisions (§§ 5822, 5841, 5861(d), (f)) – no Form 1 is required. The NFA should still require the maker to engrave their information on the SBR, as required by 5842(a). The Jensen plaintiffs are relieved from the marking requirements in 5842(b) and the serial number penalties in 5861(i). Please be aware that a majority of states prohibit the possession of SBRs unless they are registered or in compliance with the NFA. Removal of NFA Items Received on a Form 3 and Transferred on a 4473 Covered FFLs that transfer a silencer to a covered party without a Form 4 will remain the registrant of record in the NFRTR. This is not unusual. For example, when NFA items are destroyed, the registrants can provide a letter to ATF to provide notice that the item was destroyed and no longer in the registrant’s possession, but there is no statutory requirement to do so. The same should apply here. Additionally, during compliance inspections, licensees can point to their A&D book as evidence that the firearm was disposed to another party in accordance with the GCA. Post-Purchase Conversions by Non-Members Are Likely Not Covered A non-member individual who purchases a pistol from a covered plaintiff and later decides to make an SBR out of it is likely not, without additional facts, covered by the injunction. Customer coverage is transactional – the court stated it covers customers’ specific “transactions with the plaintiffs and their commercial members” and expressly “does not allow” a customer to generally avoid the NFA for all firearms they “possess, transfer, sell, make, and manufacture.” Court Opinion at 61–62. The making is the customer’s own later act. The purchase of a non-NFA firearm is not covered by the injunction and does not extend relief to the customer. not part of the pistol purchase (which is not connected to the commercial plaintiff. This would not apply to someone who is covered as a member via an associational plaintiff. Note also that possessing the pistol together with conversion parts and intent can itself constitute constructive possession of an unregistered SBR. Voluntary Form 4 Filings Remain Available Nothing in the judgment prevents a person in a state that requires NFA registration under state law from voluntarily obtaining a Form 4 from ATF. The injunction bars ATF from enforcing the law against covered parties, not from processing voluntary applications, and the statute remains in force for non-parties. The caveat is practical: ATF has not issued post-ruling guidance and is not affirmatively ordered to process covered parties’ filings. Industry participants should watch for ATF’s implementation position; until then, voluntary filing should be the recommended path in registration-hook states (e.g., Georgia, Montana). State-Plaintiff Status Does Not Cover Private Citizens The participation of 15 states as plaintiffs does not extend coverage to residents or private citizens of those states. The state plaintiffs’ coverage runs to the states as governmental entities – the judgment extends to “the plaintiffs’ agencies, political subdivisions,” reflecting the states’ asserted injury of law-enforcement compliance costs. A city police department in a plaintiff state is covered; a private citizen of Texas or Idaho is not covered by residence alone and needs an independent hook – membership in an associational plaintiff or covered-customer status. Dealer Coverage Is Transactional, Not Status-Based An FFL dealer that sells products purchased from a commercial plaintiff is covered for those item but cannot transfer other NFA items purchased from non-covered entities to individuals without a Form 4. Coverage as a plaintiff’s customer is transactional – it attaches only to allow the commercial plaintiff to sell inventory. The court stated that customer coverage applies only to “customers’ transactions with the plaintiffs and their commercial members” and does not let a customer avoid the NFA “for all NFA firearms they possess, transfer, sell, make, and manufacture.” Court Opinion at 61–62. Items sourced from non-covered entities carry no coverage, so the dealer’s act of transferring them without an approved application remains enforceable against the dealer under § 5861(e) – even if the buyer happens to be covered, because the injunction protects parties, not transactions between a covered buyer and an uncovered seller’s inventory. To transfer non-plaintiff-sourced inventory without Form 4s, a dealer needs chain-independent coverage – commercial membership in an associational plaintiff (GOA, FRAC, GOF, TSRA, FPC, CCRKBA). Wiley has a robust National Security Practice, which handles issues arising from the ATF, the Bureau of Industry and Security, the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls, and related export control laws and regulations. This alert is intended to provide general information about legal developments and should not be construed as providing legal advice or legal opinions. If you have any questions, please consult the attorneys listed on this alert. |
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom: <----Silencer Shop Professional dealer (who is transferring without a Your TSRA membership had nothing to do with it. Its the fact that the silencer was sourced from Silencer Shop. Wiley represented the plaintiffs in Silencer Shop Foundation vs ATF |
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Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a: OK. My dealer said I needed the TSRA membership. Or GOA. Need to understand what covers you for what. Lots of lawyers and dealers still don't seem to have a full grasp of this injunction. There are two parts to this injunction that cover different aspects for different plaintiff groups. For SSF vs ATF, GOA (along with others) covers you for purchasing suppressors and making SBRs and SBSs. For Jensen vs ATF, TSRA covers you for the marking/serialization portion of the injunction. The two-page final judgement can be read here: https://americansuppressorassociation.com/media/fa/1d/f8/1786035013/137%20final%20judgment%202.pdf?ts=1786035013 If you want to dig further to get a better understanding, the full 66-page opinion and summary judgement is here: https://americansuppressorassociation.com/media/44/5b/c9/1785952894/Summary%20Judgment.pdf?ts=1785952894 The full breakdown of the specific challenged NFA provisions and the pertinent plaintiff groups are behind the spoiler. Click To View Spoiler |
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Under section B PARTIES in page 8 It clearly states TSRA is part of the nearly identical case right after the second set of plaintiffs.. They call them the associations in the litigation. So clearly the TSRA is included in the entire case. Weather or not theres separate cases or not is irrelevant because its all combined at the end. The second set of plaintiffs comes from Jensen v. ATF, No. 6:26-CV-227, a related case transferred to this Court and consolidated with Silencer Shop. Dkt. No. 116. John Jensen, Jeremy Neusch, and David Lynn Smith are Texas firearms owners who wish to avoid the NFA's regulatory requirements as a precondition to making, transferring, and possessing covered firearms. No. 6:26-CV-227, Dkt. No. 19 at 5 15. Hot Shots Custom, LLC, a federally licensed firearms dealer, or FFL, alleges similar injuries as the commercial plaintiffs in Silencer Shop. Id. at 16 17. And three associations Texas State Rifle Association, FPC Action Foundation, and Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms look to defend their members from allegedly unlawful firearms restrictions under the associational-standing doctrine, like the associations in Silencer Shop. Id. at 18 23. The second set of plaintiffs comes from Jensen v. ATF, No. 6:26-CV-227, a related case transferred to this Court and consolidated with Silencer Shop. Weather someone is required to be a GOA or TSA member? Who knows. |
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Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a: Under section B PARTIES in page 8 It clearly states TSRA is part of the nearly identical case right after the second set of plaintiffs.. They call them the associations in the litigation. So clearly the TSRA is included in the entire case. Weather or not theres separate cases or not is irrelevant because its all combined at the end. The second set of plaintiffs comes from Jensen v. ATF, No. 6:26-CV-227, a related case transferred to this Court and consolidated with Silencer Shop. Dkt. No. 116. John Jensen, Jeremy Neusch, and David Lynn Smith are Texas firearms owners who wish to avoid the NFA's regulatory requirements as a precondition to making, transferring, and possessing covered firearms. No. 6:26-CV-227, Dkt. No. 19 at 5 15. Hot Shots Custom, LLC, a federally licensed firearms dealer, or FFL, alleges similar injuries as the commercial plaintiffs in Silencer Shop. Id. at 16 17. And three associations Texas State Rifle Association, FPC Action Foundation, and Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms look to defend their members from allegedly unlawful firearms restrictions under the associational-standing doctrine, like the associations in Silencer Shop. Id. at 18 23. The second set of plaintiffs comes from Jensen v. ATF, No. 6:26-CV-227, a related case transferred to this Court and consolidated with Silencer Shop. Weather someone is required to be a GOA or TSA member? Who knows. Actually, that's a good point, and I've kind of gone back & forth on it as I read it. In the 2-page final judgement, there's no differentiation of plaintiffs in the first part. It goes on in the second part to single out the Jensen plaintiffs on their specific challenges. In the end, I'm not 100% sure how to take that. I'm not a lawyer and figure I'm safer sticking with what I'm comfortable with. I'm with both the GOA and TSRA, so there should't really be any question as to what I'm covered for. I do know Bauer in Denton is requiring GOA membership, and if I recall from the big GD thread, a lot of the dealers that have been mentioned who are doing 4473 transfers are requiring GOA membership. Others are just transferring cans from Silencer Shop, so membership in any org is irrelevant for their customers (I think this is what Bauer was doing for the first couple of days before opening up all inventory to GOA members). |
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Originally Posted By Dangus: Actually, that's a good point, and I've kind of gone back & forth on it as I read it. In the 2-page final judgement, there's no differentiation of plaintiffs in the first part. It goes on in the second part to single out the Jensen plaintiffs on their specific challenges. In the end, I'm not 100% sure how to take that. I'm not a lawyer and figure I'm safer sticking with what I'm comfortable with. I'm with both the GOA and TSRA, so there should't really be any question as to what I'm covered for. I do know Bauer in Denton is requiring GOA membership, and if I recall from the big GD thread, a lot of the dealers that have been mentioned who are doing 4473 transfers are requiring GOA membership. Others are just transferring cans from Silencer Shop, so membership in any org is irrelevant for their customers (I think this is what Bauer was doing for the first couple of days before opening up all inventory to GOA members). |
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Originally Posted By rx4spd: Take this for what it’s worth, but Reddit’s r/austinguns says that while they were selling them in the store, they had to be shipped to an FFL for pick-up. Supposedly, they had a list of FFLs who were willing to transfer them on a 4473 after receiving them. Their reasoning was they weren’t going to compete against their dealer network. One other detail that was mentioned was that they were only selling Silencer Shop inventory, but this wasn’t verified. Another poster mentioned that Watermark Arms near Austin in Liberty Hill was selling directly to the customer in their store. Originally Posted By rx4spd: Originally Posted By Cpn_Ron: Any place in the Austin area? I know there was a huge crowd at Silencer Shop the other day but I haven’t stopped in Take this for what it’s worth, but Reddit’s r/austinguns says that while they were selling them in the store, they had to be shipped to an FFL for pick-up. Supposedly, they had a list of FFLs who were willing to transfer them on a 4473 after receiving them. Their reasoning was they weren’t going to compete against their dealer network. One other detail that was mentioned was that they were only selling Silencer Shop inventory, but this wasn’t verified. Another poster mentioned that Watermark Arms near Austin in Liberty Hill was selling directly to the customer in their store. Couple of local places say they "are waiting for guidance", but they'd be glad to sell me an overpriced can via the "traditional" NFA paperwork. Plus a $100 transfer fee if I buy one online.  Meanwhile, my son just picked up his first 4473 suppressor through the Scottsdale Gun Club in AZ. |
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I drove out to Bauer in Denton on Saturday and picked up two cans on 4473. Super fast and easy. Really an awesome store. Hell of a drive from east of McKinney but I’ve bought from them for years and they had the specific model I wanted in stock. Compared to waiting 8-10 months or even two weeks for the Capitol Armory ship-to-home program, I took the hour drive.  Of course, I mixed up my existing pistol interface as being Hub/Bravo when all my mounts were Alpha. Oops.  Have some Hub 3-lug mounts on the way now!
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Originally Posted By nritzell: Mister guns is now, got one there last week. Riflegear in the colony now too as of today Originally Posted By nritzell: Mister guns is now, got one there last week. Riflegear in the colony now too as of today NICE! To me, Riflegear jumping on board is huge. They're the largest dealer in North Texas I'm aware of doing this. https://www.riflegear.com/t-faq.nfaupdate.aspx RifleGear Texas is now offering Form 4473 transfers for qualifying suppressor purchases! For eligible customers, this allows a suppressor to be transferred through the same general process used for a standard firearm purchase. No Form 4, fingerprint submission, passport photo, CLEO notification, or separate ATF approval period is required. Who Qualifies? Customers may qualify through either an eligible organization membership or the purchase of a qualifying suppressor. Qualifying Memberships You may qualify if you are a current member of: Gun Owners of America (GOA) Texas State Rifle Association (TSRA) The name on your membership must match the name on your valid Texas driver’s license or Texas identification card. Qualifying Suppressor Purchases Customers purchasing an in-stock suppressor manufactured by one of the following companies may also qualify, even without a GOA or TSRA membership: SilencerCo B&T USA This exemption is transaction-specific and applies only when the qualifying suppressor is purchased directly from RifleGear. Additional Eligibility Requirements All customers must: Be at least 21 years old Be a Texas resident Purchase the suppressor as an individual, not through a trust or other legal entity Be the actual purchaser and intended recipient Be legally eligible to purchase and possess a firearm Complete ATF Form 4473 and the required NICS background check Provide all required identification and supporting documentation RifleGear will verify eligibility before completing the transfer. Please contact us before visiting if you are unsure whether you or your purchase qualifies. What to Bring Please bring a valid Texas driver’s license or Texas identification card showing your current residential address. If qualifying through a GOA or TSRA membership, you must also provide proof of active membership. Additional government-issued documentation may be required if your identification does not show your current legal name or residential address. Names must match across your identification, membership documentation, and transaction paperwork. How the Transfer Works After you select a qualifying suppressor, our staff will review your eligibility and documentation. You will then complete RifleGear’s required acknowledgment, ATF Form 4473, and a NICS background check. Once all requirements have been met and the background check is approved, the suppressor may be transferred. Same-day completion may be possible, but it cannot be guaranteed. Important Limitations This process applies only to qualifying suppressor transactions. Trust purchases and transfers involving short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, machine guns, destructive devices, and other NFA items will continue through the applicable Form 4 process. This remains a developing area of law. RifleGear’s procedures may change in response to new court orders, federal guidance, or other legal developments. RifleGear may require a Form 4 or decline a transfer when eligibility cannot be confirmed. This information is provided for general informational purposes and is not legal advice. Customers are responsible for complying with all applicable laws governing the possession, transportation, use, and future transfer of suppressors. |
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Originally Posted By Dangus: NICE! To me, Riflegear jumping on board is huge. They're the largest dealer in North Texas I'm aware of doing this. "Riflegear rules: Purchase the suppressor as an individual, not through a trust or other legal entity" I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering about this part. I already have a trust. I put every firearm that I buy into the trust. Since I bought my firearms on a 4473, and I would be buying a suppressor on a 4473, why can't I just put it in my trust on an addendum just like I do my firearms? |
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Originally Posted By rx4spd: I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering about this part. I already have a trust. I put every firearm that I buy into the trust. Since I bought my firearms on a 4473, and I would be buying a suppressor on a 4473, why can't I just put it in my trust on an addendum just like I do my firearms? I think what they’re saying is your actual name is going on the 4473, not your trust name. You can always add it to your trust after the fact. |
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Originally Posted By Dangus: I think what they’re saying is your actual name is going on the 4473, not your trust name. You can always add it to your trust after the fact. Originally Posted By Dangus: Originally Posted By rx4spd: I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering about this part. I already have a trust. I put every firearm that I buy into the trust. Since I bought my firearms on a 4473, and I would be buying a suppressor on a 4473, why can't I just put it in my trust on an addendum just like I do my firearms? I think what they’re saying is your actual name is going on the 4473, not your trust name. You can always add it to your trust after the fact. As long as the trust is part of the injunction, I would think it'd be fine |
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Originally Posted By rx4spd: I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering about this part. I already have a trust. I put every firearm that I buy into the trust. Since I bought my firearms on a 4473, and I would be buying a suppressor on a 4473, why can't I just put it in my trust on an addendum just like I do my firearms? Every previous firearm (including NFA) that you bought from an FFL, you completed a Form 4473.........with YOUR NAME, not your trusts name. You add the "no Form 4" silencer to your trust like you would do with a Form 4 silencer. |
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Originally Posted By Dangus: I think what they’re saying is your actual name is going on the 4473, not your trust name. You can always add it to your trust after the fact. Which is exactly the same as every firearm transfer by an FFL since 1968. You don't complete a 4473 as a trust, but as the transferee authorized by the trust (or corporation or LLC). See instructions for Section B pg 4 on the 4473: When the transferee/buyer of a firearm is a corporation, company, association, partnership, or other such business entity, an officer authorized to act on behalf of the business must complete Section B of the form with his/her personal information, sign Section B, and attach a written statement, executed under penalties of perjury, stating: (A) the firearm is being acquired for the use of and will be the property of that business entity; and (B) the name and address of that business entity. As no Form 4 needs to be submitted, its just the name of the buyer. And correct, just add to your trust when you get home. |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout: As long as the trust is part of the injunction, I would think it'd be fine A Trust has nothing to do with anything regarding the federal court injunction. |
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Originally Posted By tvone: I have found one yet in Arlington/Mansfield or even Fort Worth. Bauer is an hours drive for me. Not a deal killer, but i'd like to support a shop closer to me. Alpine if you are a GOA member. |
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