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5/10/2026 2:16:36 AM EDT
I couldn't get my driver's license renewed because I failed the eye. I was required to have an eye exam done and my information sent to the state before they would renew it.

I had ordered some lowers and had them delivered to a local gun store in between my license expiring and me getting an eye appointment. No big deal I thought. Gun store refused to transfer them to me because I didn't have a valid ID. I thought it a state issued CWP was a valid form of ID.

I still had to fill out a complete 4473 show my valid driver's license and my CWP. Plus wait on the background check to come back on the computer.

Is it the ATF, the software the store uses or am I completely wrong? They showed me their computer screen it had a field for valid ID and a separate field for CWP. They said if they put my CWP information it will reject the transfer. Plus they said their ATF inspector told them that they couldn't accept a CWP as valid ID.

Who or what is wrong? BTW this has become a sore subject between me the store owner and my daughter that works there. Yes it was my daughter who refused to do the transfer. If I am wrong I will be the first to admit it.
5/10/2026 9:59:50 AM EDT
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Based off the user name I'm guessing Midlands.  Not a lawyer, haven't worked at a gunshop since the 80s and I'm just spitballing here, but I'm thinking you may have to get a state ID while you wait on the doctor and DMV to get their ducks in a row but technically, from what I'm seeing on multiple gun lawyer websites, any valid (not expired) government issued ID, including a state issued CWP or temporary driver's license, should legally be enough.  If you're talking about PSA's system, I'm sure it's all lawyer based to strictly cover them but it's a real PITA and seems to be very inflexible; in their defense, I'm sure the government hates them and goes out of their way to scrutinize them given their low prices on ARs and such and the local atf office is just up the street from them and apparently they like to stop in and check on them.  I'd give CAE Transfers a call and see if he can help (great guy, he's a member here- highly recommend) or in the Sandhills area, Brian at Time to Get a Gun.  Both do paper transfers, not electronic.  At this point the original FFL may not be willing to transfer the receivers to another dealer and may flag it and the costs may be a factor.  

From the ATF:
It is ATF's position that a combination of documents may be used to satisfy the Brady Act's
requirement for an identification document. The prospective transferee must present at least one
valid document that meets the statutory definition of an identification document; i.e., it must bear
the transferee's name and photograph, it must have been issued by a governmental entity, and it
must be of a type intended or commonly accepted for identification purposes. ATF recognizes,
however, that some valid government-issued identification documents do not include the bearer's
current residence address. Such an identification document may be supplemented with another
valid government-issued document that contains the necessary information.

Thus, for example, a licensee may accept a valid driver's license that accurately reflects the
purchaser's name, date of birth, and photograph, along with a vehicle registration issued by the
State indicating the transferee's current address. Licensees should note that if the law of the State
that issued the driver's license provides that the driver's license is invalid due to any reason (i.e.,
the license is expired or is no longer valid due to an unreported change of address), then the
driver's license may not be used for identification purposes under the Brady Act. If a licensee has
reasonable cause to question the validity of an identification document, he or she should not
proceed with the transfer until those questions
can be resolved.

The licensee must record on the Form 4473 the type of identification document(s) presented
by the transferee, including any document number. Examples of documents that may be accepted
to supplement information on a driver's license or other identification document include a vehicle
registration, a recreation identification card, a fishing or hunting license, a voter identification
card, or a tax bill. However, the document in question must be valid and must have been issued
by a government
agency
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https://www.atf.gov/media/19731/download

The 4473 itself says "26.a. Identification (e.g., Virginia driver’s license (VA DL) or other valid government-issued photo identification including military ID."
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Non ATF website info from gun lawyers, there are multiple that say the same thing:

Supplemental Government Issued Documentation for ATF 4473
by National Gun Trusts August 29, 2025

Can item 26.b. on Form 4473, “Supplemental Government Issued Documentation,” be used to document a transferee’s additional government-issued documentation that establishes the transferee’s full legal name and/or current residence address?

Yes. Item 26.b. on Form 4473 (formerly item 18.b. on the 2016 Form 4473) is used in instances where a single government-issued identification document is not endorsed with the transferee’s full legal name and/or current residence address as recorded in items 9 and 10, respectively, and the transferee presents a combination of valid government-issued documents satisfy the identification document requirement.

An example of this may include an individual who recently changed his/her name due to a change in marital status. ATF Ruling 2001-5 states that federal firearms licensees (FFLs) may accept a combination of valid government-issued documents to satisfy the identification document requirements of the Brady Act. The required valid government-issued photo identification document bearing the name, photograph, and date of birth of the transferee may be supplemented by another valid, government-issued document showing the transferee's residence address or full legal name.

These supplemental documents must be issued by a government entity. Documents that will typically meet these requirements include a tax bill, vehicle registration, and voter identification card.

Documents issued by private companies or individuals (rental documents, leases, cable bills, phone bills, credit card bills, bank documents, etc.) may not be used as supplemental identification documents for the purchase or acquisition of a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(t)(1)(C), 27 CFR 478.102(a)(3) and 478.124(c)(3)(i)]

Source:

“Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.” Can Item 26.b. on Form 4473, “Supplemental Government Issued Documentation,” Be Used to Document a Transferee’s Additional Government-Issued Documentation That Establishes the Transferee’s Full Legal Name and/or Current Residence Address? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-item-26b-form-4473-%E2%80%9Csupplemental-government-issued-documentation%E2%80%9D-be-used-document. Accessed 27 Aug. 2025.
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https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/blogs/nfa-gun-trust-atf-information-database-blog/supplemental-government-issued-documentation-for-atf-4473

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