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9/10/2025 10:04:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Demeroma][Edited]
The 3rd circuit has finally released it's decision on the carry case in a 235 page opinion. Currently reviewing what what was decided. Here's Mark W. Smith's tweet about it.



Mark W. Smith/#2A Scholar
@fourboxesdiner

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BREAKING 2A NEWS: US Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit, just released 235-page opinions in Koons re NJ sensitive places/licensing issues. 2-1 decision is long and dense. 2A won on some of most obvious violations but seems to have mostly lost. My guess: en banc request incoming.
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Will provide more info as I continue reading the 235 pages.



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this is an indication of how we did.






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Extension granted to file a petition for a rehearing en banc.pet


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Petition for an en banc rehearing.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67401781/158/1/ronald-koons-v-attorney-general-new-jersey/

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ECF FILER: UNOPPOSED Motion filed by Appellant Attorney General New Jersey in 23-1900, Appellee Attorney General New Jersey in 23-2043 for Extension of Time to file Response to Petitions for Rehearing En Banc until/for 14 days, i.e., to 11/14/2025. Certificate of Service dated 10/22/2025. Service made by ECF. [23-1900, 23-2043] (JF)
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9/10/2025 12:52:19 PM EDT
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9/10/2025 8:41:16 PM EDT
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Did people honestly think the court was going to rule in favor of the United States Constitution, freedom and America? Especially in a place like NJ where it's actually a communist nation allowed to operate within the borders of The United States.
9/11/2025 11:07:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Not with this panel with Krause being the lead judge. She was the judge that dissented in Rahimi. If you have the time read judge Porter's dissent in yesterdays ruling. This is where we'll eventually wind up.
9/11/2025 12:29:40 PM EDT
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MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: FEDERAL APPEALS COURT FINALLY ISSUES SENSITIVE PLACES/LICENSING DECISION!

9/11/2025 11:25:39 PM EDT
[#6]
N.J. Groups and Plaintiffs React to 3rd Circuit Bruen-Response Opinion


The decision is a mixed bag and a much deeper dive into the 236 page opinion is going to have to occur. Cam covered initial reporting on the decision yesterday. Further, Cam provided an incredible rundown on the dissenting opinion   also yesterday. Since Cam's coverage, we've made contact with a number of the plaintiffs and advocacy groups, as well as received their comments via releases.
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bearingarms.com

9/12/2025 9:51:29 AM EDT
[#7]
Third Circuit Strikes Some New Jersey Carry Restrictions in NRA Case


The case will now return to the district court for further consideration on the merits.
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nraila.org
9/15/2025 11:08:15 AM EDT
[#8]
NJFOS press release.





https://www.njfos.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Koons-Press-Release.pdf
9/17/2025 5:51:24 PM EDT
[#9]
Motion filed for an extension of time in order to file a petition for a hearing en banc.


Sep 17, 2025

ECF FILER: Motion filed by Appellees Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners, Firearms Policy Coalition Inc, Nicholas Gaudio, Ronald Koons, Jeffrey M. Muller, New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Second Amendment Foundation Inc and Gil Tal in 23-1900, 23-2043 for Extension of Time to file Petition for rehearing en banc until/for 10/08/2025. Certificate of Service dated 09/17/2025. Service made by ECF. [23-1900, 23-2043] (DHT)

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9/19/2025 11:39:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Extension granted to file a petition for a rehearing en banc.


9/29/2025 9:24:06 PM EDT
[#11]
An editorial by Joe LoPorto.


An Essay on the Recent Third Circuit Opinion in the Matter of Koons/Siegel v. Platkin

On September 10, 2025, after nearly two years since oral arguments on the preliminary injunction were held, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued an opinion and order in the consolidated cases of Koons v. Platkin and Siegel v. Platkin, challenging New Jersey's "carry killer" bill.

While there has been a great deal of focus on the specific impact of the court's ruling on each element of the law that was challenged in court, the bigger picture is that the decision in Koons/Siegel relies on a heavily flawed general interpretation of current Second Amendment jurisprudence. In that sense, the entire opinion is flawed. Not simply a matter of calling balls and strikes, where the court gets some things right and some things wrong, it is entirely wrong and creates a dangerous precedent for future cases that would leave the door wide open for future courts to justify almost any gun control law. This case will almost certainly be granted a rehearing by the entire en banc circuit.
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news2a.com
10/8/2025 3:22:24 PM EDT
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Koons / Siegel update

The petition was filed today for a rehearing en banc by the Siegel plaintiffs. This request is for the full 3rd Circuit to rehear this sensitive places cases and correct the errors made by the previous 3rd Circuit 3 judge panel.




https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67401781/158/1/ronald-koons-v-attorney-general-new-jersey/


Here's the petition filed by the Koons plaintiffs:




https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67401781/159/ronald-koons-v-attorney-general-new-jersey/


This is what the 3 judge panel gave us and the petition for en banc wants rectified.



10/8/2025 4:47:35 PM EDT
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10/8/2025 10:53:36 PM EDT
[#14]
NJ gun owners ask court to rehear constitutional challenge of gun-carry law

Spokespeople for the state attorney general's office, which has fought to uphold the law, did not respond to a request for comment.
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newjerseymonitor.com
10/17/2025 7:57:43 PM EDT
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10/20/2025 12:30:16 PM EDT
[#16]
NJ will no doubt be all Tricks and no Treats this Halloween.





10/22/2025 3:27:56 PM EDT
[#17]
The NJ AG requested a delay in his response until 11/14/25.


ECF FILER: UNOPPOSED Motion filed by Appellant Attorney General New Jersey in 23-1900, Appellee Attorney General New Jersey in 23-2043 for Extension of Time to file Response to Petitions for Rehearing En Banc until/for 14 days, i.e., to 11/14/2025. Certificate of Service dated 10/22/2025. Service made by ECF. [23-1900, 23-2043] (JF)
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10/24/2025 9:24:33 PM EDT
[#18]
How NJ Turned the Right to Carry Into a Felony | Freedom Seeds Friday ??ALERT??
11/14/2025 6:14:58 PM EDT
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New Jerseys response to the request of an En Banc hearing.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.120072/gov.uscourts.ca3.120072.166.0.pdf


Intervenors response.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.120072/gov.uscourts.ca3.120072.165.0.pdf  






11/14/2025 6:22:49 PM EDT
[#20]
New Jersey Looks to Avoid an En Banc Rehearing of Koons v. Platkin 'Carry Killer' Case


In what is likely a surprise to nobody following this case, on November 14, the intervenors on the side of the State of New Jersey submitted a brief asking the Third Circuit to abstain from rehearing the Koons v. Platkin sensitive places ban case en banc.

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news2a.com
12/11/2025 5:35:08 PM EDT
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12/11/2025 7:13:12 PM EDT
[#22]
*They* would sell their soul to control you no matter what the subject or object is.
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." - Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer
"Never scratch your ass with a broken bottle." - Anon.
12/12/2025 2:25:28 PM EDT
[#23]






Koons/Siegel vs. NJ AG

Oral Argument Notification for Wednesday, 02/11/2026.

Setting & Time: Maris Courtroom / 9:30am. Location: Philadelphia, PA. [23-1900, 23-2043] (PM)
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12/12/2025 5:56:10 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm hoping this get's resolved asap, along with the mag bans, I would love to see both Murphey and this weasel face..
12/12/2025 6:21:22 PM EDT
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I'm hoping this get's resolved asap, along with the mag bans, I would love to see both Murphey and this weasel face..
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You and me both. Unfortunately both Murphy and Platkin will be gone when Koons / Siegel and the Cheeseman case are decided.


HUGE BREAKING NEWS! HUGE 2A VICTORY INCOMING AS APPEALS COURT STEPS UP

12/16/2025 6:56:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Interesting and a logical legal presentation of the understanding of what was, why it backfired ...

Great post.

TY
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." - Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer
"Never scratch your ass with a broken bottle." - Anon.
2/11/2026 12:55:58 AM EDT
[#27]
BREAKING NEWS! GROUNDBREAKING NEW DATA ANNOUNCED AHEAD OF ORAL ARGUMENT..
2/11/2026 1:01:43 AM EDT
[#28]
February 11, 2026

9am - EN BANC (All Active Judges)



2/11/2026 2:34:59 PM EDT
[#29]
I hope were able to hear a decision soon... Also something is coming up on the 20th of this month correct?
2/11/2026 4:49:11 PM EDT
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I hope were able to hear a decision soon... Also something is coming up on the 20th of this month correct?
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SCOTUS has a conference on the 20th to discuss NAGR v Lamont, the Connecticut AWB and mag ban case. Here's a good summary of the case:

https://txgunrights.org/nagr-v-lamont-the-supreme-court-showdown-that-could-end-assault-weapons-bans-for-good/
2/11/2026 7:49:35 PM EDT
[#31]
All the awb's can't be stuck down soon enough. My wallet will cry though.
2/12/2026 3:31:51 PM EDT
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SCOTUS has a conference on the 20th to discuss NAGR v Lamont, the Connecticut AWB and mag ban case. Here's a good summary of the case:

https://txgunrights.org/nagr-v-lamont-the-supreme-court-showdown-that-could-end-assault-weapons-bans-for-good/
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Great article.. Thank you..
2/13/2026 4:29:02 PM EDT
[#33]
MAJOR BREAKING NEWS! NEW JERSEY EMBARRASSED IN HUGE FEDERAL COURT CASE...
2/13/2026 5:17:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Now it's the waiting game... We'll see for how long
2/13/2026 6:48:02 PM EDT
[#35]



Hasta la vista baby!
   


2/13/2026 7:45:03 PM EDT
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I was just about to post this. I wonder if this will screw up our case? Or if the state will want to re-hear?
2/14/2026 8:58:53 AM EDT
[#37]
another 20 years

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Now it's the waiting game... We'll see for how long
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2/15/2026 2:08:04 AM EDT
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I was just about to post this. I wonder if this will screw up our case? Or if the state will want to re-hear?
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The case won't be affected one bit by Cai leaving the attorney general's office.
2/15/2026 9:42:26 AM EDT
[#39]
Very good.. I just hope they don't take 2 years to give a response.
2/17/2026 7:41:21 AM EDT
[#40]
two ....lol, more like twenty

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Very good.. I just hope they don't take 2 years to give a response.
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7/21/2026 12:43:46 AM EDT
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two ....lol, more like twenty


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two ....lol, more like twenty

Originally Posted By fly223:
Very good.. I just hope they don't take 2 years to give a response.

After this past Friday's 3rd circuit AWB and mag ban decision, I wouldn't be surprised if the Koon / Siegel case is released soooooon.
7/21/2026 7:40:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Can a Judge withhold their judgement indefinitely? Seriously?

Emotional quotient: no decision is a NO DECISION.

So no soup for us!?!
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." - Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer
"Never scratch your ass with a broken bottle." - Anon.
7/26/2026 8:28:03 PM EDT
[#43]
I was listening to Jay Costa`s podcast with the head of the NJFOS.  He speculated we might have a decision as soon as next month.
8/10/2026 2:29:19 PM EDT
[#44]
I hope we hear something soon.

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