Interest in a 10 Day Pioneer Qualification Course? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/14/2022 12:56:02 PM EDT
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Would there be interest in a course that ran ten consecutive days and resulted in a full Pioneer rating? There would be very minimal prerequisites, though candidates would need to study and prep for the course. Could you find ten days to work with professional instructors to go from candidate to Pioneer? The course would include ammunition and other necessary consumables. |
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Originally Posted By HawkCreek: Interested. It would have to be during the winter for me to be able to attend. The good news is there will likely be a winter version and a summer version of this happens. Maybe make it early January and mid summer. |
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Originally Posted By adversor: Interest, yes. Ability to attend...unknown. This is where I would put the bulk of people, as dates, cost and other things could be a factor. On that note I would never achieve full Pioneer for a few reasons but would be willing to do the course as much as I could understanding I would feel proud to make it to 3rd class. Some stuff like communications I think I could grasp, other stuff like hiking backwards uphill in the snow both ways...I would probably try it but totally suck.  . The summer event I could end up to be a real medivac case depending on how hot/humid it was, the winter event wouldn't be quite as bad but won't be a picnic either... .
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: This is where I would put the bulk of people, as dates, cost and other things could be a factor. On that note I would never achieve full Pioneer for a few reasons but would be willing to do the course as much as I could understanding I would feel proud to make it to 3rd class. Some stuff like communications I think I could grasp, other stuff like hiking backwards uphill in the snow both ways...I would probably try it but totally suck. . The summer event I could end up to be a real medivac case depending on how hot/humid it was, the winter event wouldn't be quite as bad but won't be a picnic either....Think of it as a 10 day hell week, but without the arty sims, better food, and a lot less sleep deprivation? |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Think of it as a 10 day hell week, but without the arty sims, better food, and a lot less sleep deprivation? Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: This is where I would put the bulk of people, as dates, cost and other things could be a factor. On that note I would never achieve full Pioneer for a few reasons but would be willing to do the course as much as I could understanding I would feel proud to make it to 3rd class. Some stuff like communications I think I could grasp, other stuff like hiking backwards uphill in the snow both ways...I would probably try it but totally suck. . The summer event I could end up to be a real medivac case depending on how hot/humid it was, the winter event wouldn't be quite as bad but won't be a picnic either....Think of it as a 10 day hell week, but without the arty sims, better food, and a lot less sleep deprivation? You are overly optimistic sir. |
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Interested according to the location. problem for me is pilot ground school, upcoming Germany trip, mom breaking her leg or getting sick right before A event (happens every time). Like clockwork a week before boat training she broke her leg and is in rehab. Luckily I have help for a day or two, just not much more. |
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Originally Posted By Inimicalone: Anymore info to be had @Ben? When Ben gets back he'll call Montana winters "balmy" compared to where he was posted and teach the course wearing shorts. |
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I would be in, and can work around the schedule depending on lead time. My brother would most likely be interested too Has there been a location or some sort of timing/dates discussed? I scanned through the thread, and didn't see anything obvious I'm in TX, seems there are several people interested in APC in and around North Texas, so this may give us the push<SHOVE needed to get it done |
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Originally Posted By H4ppyB34r: I would be in, and can work around the schedule depending on lead time. My brother would most likely be interested too Has there been a location or some sort of timing/dates discussed? I scanned through the thread, and didn't see anything obvious I'm in TX, seems there are several people interested in APC in and around North Texas, so this may give us the push<SHOVE needed to get it done There may be something in 2024. Such a course requires significant commitment from APC in terms of resources, instructor support, and good will. I say good will since the instructors are not paid, and would probably need to be there 16 to 20 days vice the ten the students are there...so families aren't going to be happy about it. This idea isn't dead by any means, we just need to make sure we've built up enough interest for a course of such length as to make it a success. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: There may be something in 2024. Such a course requires significant commitment from APC in terms of resources, instructor support, and good will. I say good will since the instructors are not paid, and would probably need to be there 16 to 20 days vice the ten the students are there...so families aren't going to be happy about it. This idea isn't dead by any means, we just need to make sure we've built up enough interest for a course of such length as to make it a success. Originally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By H4ppyB34r: I would be in, and can work around the schedule depending on lead time. My brother would most likely be interested too Has there been a location or some sort of timing/dates discussed? I scanned through the thread, and didn't see anything obvious I'm in TX, seems there are several people interested in APC in and around North Texas, so this may give us the push<SHOVE needed to get it done There may be something in 2024. Such a course requires significant commitment from APC in terms of resources, instructor support, and good will. I say good will since the instructors are not paid, and would probably need to be there 16 to 20 days vice the ten the students are there...so families aren't going to be happy about it. This idea isn't dead by any means, we just need to make sure we've built up enough interest for a course of such length as to make it a success. Appreciate the response and the commitment requirements, all around. More I read about this, more I get on board. I will most likely round up a crew of guys to kick off the DFW/North Texas chapter again. Like I posted earlier, my brother will 100% be on board too, but he's in Houston, or just south, so not super easy to get something like this going... On a regular basis with a 4-5hr drive time involved. Maybe we can get him plugged in to the local chapter there. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: There may be something in 2024. Such a course requires significant commitment from APC in terms of resources, instructor support, and good will. I say good will since the instructors are not paid, and would probably need to be there 16 to 20 days vice the ten the students are there...so families aren't going to be happy about it. This idea isn't dead by any means, we just need to make sure we've built up enough interest for a course of such length as to make it a success. At this time I'm down for one, with the possibility of two slots. I've been watching this thread anxiously because my wedding is this January. Kind of a relief that it's not happening next month. |
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Originally Posted By tnaaron81: Interested. I would like a cost estimation, locations, and basic course description? Like most things APC, it will either be free, or something along the lines of 10 to 20 dollars a day, maybe a hair more with most if not all meals provided. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: Like most things APC, it will either be free, or something along the lines of 10 to 20 dollars a day, maybe a hair more with most if not all meals provided. Originally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By tnaaron81: Interested. I would like a cost estimation, locations, and basic course description? Like most things APC, it will either be free, or something along the lines of 10 to 20 dollars a day, maybe a hair more with most if not all meals provided. I think if you attached a price of $500-750 to cover costs and some reimbursement for instructors, you would fill the slots and some of your logistical gaps. |
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Originally Posted By cobullseye: I would be interested. 10 Days might be to long to be away for. Location also is a consideration. Any updates on planning? On hold- working on insurance and a few other projects simultaneously. |
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| I'd be interested, although location and my schedule definitely would dictate ability to participate. Unfortunately, the bigger events seem to be in locations not too friendly to west-coasters or southwesterners. I'm also sailing most of the year. But if the details align, I'd definitely want to attend. It's probably the only way I can get Pioneer as I was never able to get enough interest in Southern CA and once I got my current job I really couldn't organize much of anything as I'm not home very often and can't reliably predict my work schedule. If more people had been interested and in a position to take the lead it might be a different story. |
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| Being retired has certain benefits, such as do what I want when I want. The only problem with that is that I'm usually doing all kinds of shit all over the western US. So for me it would time and location dependant. Probably not willing to go to the east coast for this either. Only thing currently on my books for 2024 is spend 2 weeks hiking Iceland in the later part of August to possibly mid September. |
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Originally Posted By CaliContractor: Being retired has certain benefits, such as do what I want when I want. The only problem with that is that I'm usually doing all kinds of shit all over the western US. So for me it would time and location dependant. Probably not willing to go to the east coast for this either. Only thing currently on my books for 2024 is spend 2 weeks hiking Iceland in the later part of August to possibly mid September. You could just say you're not that interested. Fewer words, less bullshit. |
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman: Bump Any updates on this @Ben I'm relatively certain this will happen next summer. Expect the dates and details to be posted by December. |
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