Posted: 1/13/2026 5:39:33 PM EDT
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By the time WA is done you just basically won't be able to own or buy a gun or anything related to it. Nobody is coming to save us either it seems. From the WAguns reddit sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1qb8a6s/2026_legislative_outlook_and_review/ Hi all, with legislature in session officially, I figured it would be good to go through all of the gun bills up for debate this year. I have taken some of this from the Washington gun law youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoUapJtL_do), but I've also added a bit of information surrounding these bills and what they do. At the end I also added some personal opinion around which bills I believe have the best chances to pass. HB 1386: Imposing a new tax on firearms, firearm parts, and ammunition. This bill would impose an 11% tax on all firearms, parts and ammunition sold in the state It would also apply IN ADDITION to the normal 10% state sales tax. Brining tax on a firearm related purchase to a whopping 21% Tax revenue collected in the first 2 years via this bill is stated to go towards programs focused on gun violence prevention https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1386&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1132: Enhancing public safety by limiting bulk purchases and transfers of firearms and ammunition. This bill amends RCW 9.41, putting limits on the purchase of firearms and ammunition Limits purchases to 1 gun per 30 day period, and 1000 rounds of ammunition in the same time frame (100 rounds for 50 cal ammunition) https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1132&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1152: Enhancing public safety by establishing secure storage requirements for firearms in vehicles and residences. This bill outlines requirements for firearm storage Requires that handguns stored in a vehicle be kept unloaded in a locked, hard, opaque case that is affixed to the vehicle. The vehicle must be locked Long guns stored in a vehicle must be kept unloaded in a locked, opaque case. Guns kept in soft cases must have a trigger lock. The vehicle must be locked Firearms kept in a home must be stored in either a locked safe, or have a locking device installed (trigger guard, gun lock) Violating this will result in a $1000 fine, a misdemeanor if a prohibited person takes the gun for use in a crime, or a felony if a prohibited person takes the gun and causes injury to a 3rd party. https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1152&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1504: Enhancing public safety by requiring financial responsibility to purchase or possess a firearm or operate a firearm range. This bill would require all firearm owners to carry liability insurance providing a minimum of $25,000 worth of coverage for any incident arising from accidental or unintentional discharge of the covered firearm causing injury, death, or property damage Would require a separate policy for each individual firearm, and each would need to be specifically identified. A person can exempt themselves from carrying insurance if they deposit $25,000 with the department of licensing. No grandfather clause, so all current firearm owners would be required to carry liability insurance https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1504&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2235: Concerning public records act exemptions regarding concealed pistol licenses, permits to purchase firearms, and firearms purchases or transfers. This bill amends RCW 42.56.240, exempting CCW license applications, firearm purchase permits and firearm transfer applications from the public record https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2235&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2320: Concerning the regulation of firearm manufacturing. This bill regulates firearm manufacturing that involves the use of 3D printers, and CNC machines Makes using a 3D printer/CNC machine to fabricate firearms, or parts for firearms illegal Makes distribution of digital files associated with firearm manufacturing illegal Clause stating that merely possessing digital files associated with firearm manufacturing, is intent to distribute and therefore illegal. Details that this is a matter of public emergency and would take effect immediately upon passage of the bill https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2320&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2321: Requiring three-dimensional printers be equipped with certain blocking technologies. This bill is in conjuncture with the previous HB2320, and requires that 3D printers be equipped with technology blocking the manufacture of firearms or firearms parts Requires all 3D printer manufacturers or retailers only sell printers equipped with firearm detection firmware Goes into effect July 1st, 2027 Manufacturer must attest (under penalty of perjury) that their printer is equipped with firmware that rejects components it detects to be firearm related Requires 3D printers sold to accept code from only a single first party slicer https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2321&Year=2025&Initiative=false SB 5098: Restricting the possession of weapons on the premises of state or local public buildings, parks or playground facilities where children are likely to be present, and county fairs and county fair facilities. Amends RCW 9.41.300 to include more weapon restricted areas Includes all parks where children are likely to be present (as defined by each locality), any building owned or leased by a government entity and county fairs Does not include ferry terminals, Train depots, WSDOT properties or rest areas Beaches are included as an area specifically listed that children may be present https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5098&Year=2025 SB 5099: Protecting the public from gun violence by establishing additional requirements for the business operations of licensed firearms dealers. This bill introduces additional requirements for FFLs or gun dealers Allows state patrol to conduct unannounced periodic inspections of an FFL to ensure compliance with all requirements Bars anyone who has previously had an FFL license revoked, denied, or suspended in the last 5 years from obtaining another FFL, unless the previous license was denied due to paperwork. Adds additional training requirements for all employees of an FFL prior to them engaging in any sale. Requires metal bars or grates be present at the entryways of all FFL's (previously any bar or grate was accepted) Adds additional FFL license renewal fees based on the number of sales in the previous fiscal year (capped at $1500) https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=5099&Year=2025&Initiative=false SB 6055: Concerning firearms background check. Amends RCW 2 43.43.580 and 43.43.58 to remove the cap on the background check fee. No cap, but is stated to be "reasonably calculated to cover the direct and 33 indirect costs to the Washington state patrol incurred in 34 administering the firearm background check program." https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=6055&Year=2025&Initiative=false My Take: There's really 3 groups of bills here. Bills I think are likely to pass, unlikely to pass and uncertain. The bills I believe are unlikely to pass are HB 2321, HB 1132 and HB 1504. HB 2321 is the least likely in my opinion to pass due to the challenge around regulation. I find it unlikely that the house will come to real agreements on the issue and it will get shelved for the time being. HB 1132 is also unlikely in my opinion to pass due to the same law being struck down in California already. The 9th circuit already struck down the 1 gun per month requirement and it wasn't even appealed to the supreme court ( https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2025/07/litigation-highlight-ninth-circuit-strikes-down-californias-one-gun-per-month-rule ). If the 9th strikes down your 2A law, then it's quite certain that it's unconstitutional and I don't think the state will even bother with this one. HB 1504 is the most interesting of the unlikely to pass group IMO just due to how unprecedented it would be. It's almost certainly unconstitutional, and would be the most impactful 2A law passed in decades. It doesn't sound like insurance companies want anything to do with it though and their lobbying might actually work in our favor here. As for the likely to pass category, I have SB 5099, SB 6055, HB 2235 and HB 1386. The first 3 I just listed seem to be fairly inconsequential and only serve to add a small amount of tax revenue to the state, so these to me are going to be bills that aren't going to get much pushback. HB 1386 is the most alarming one to me because it seems likely to be passed and would significantly impact all gun owners in the state. Adding an 11% sales tax to all gun related purchases would of course only be a poll tax and only serve to keep weapons out of the hands of the lower class, but it would also significantly increase the cost to shoot or train. Knowing that we are in a budget deficit means that the legislators are going to be incentivized to add additional taxes wherever available. I'm not going to talk about the rest in depth, but I did want to bring up SB 5098 and HB 1152. These seem like a crapshoot to me, but I do think that they would be a big shakeup and would end up with enough initial pushback that there may be some reservations about passing them. I bring both of these up together because I think if passed in conjunction it would effectively make concealed carry enough of a chore for law abiding citizens that many people may just stop altogether. Making so many places illegal to have a weapon in, and then making it illegal to store your weapon in the car makes it incredibly challenging to carry a firearm on your person legally. If both are passed I expect there to be significant pushback from some of the 2A advocates here. Let me know what you all think, thanks to anyone who read all the way through. |
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Originally Posted By mancat: By the time WA is done you just basically won't be able to own or buy a gun or anything related to it. Nobody is coming to save us either it seems. From the WAguns reddit sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/1qb8a6s/2026_legislative_outlook_and_review/ Hi all, with legislature in session officially, I figured it would be good to go through all of the gun bills up for debate this year. I have taken some of this from the Washington gun law youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoUapJtL_do), but I've also added a bit of information surrounding these bills and what they do. At the end I also added some personal opinion around which bills I believe have the best chances to pass. HB 1386: Imposing a new tax on firearms, firearm parts, and ammunition. This bill would impose an 11% tax on all firearms, parts and ammunition sold in the state It would also apply IN ADDITION to the normal 10% state sales tax. Brining tax on a firearm related purchase to a whopping 21% Tax revenue collected in the first 2 years via this bill is stated to go towards programs focused on gun violence prevention https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1386&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1132: Enhancing public safety by limiting bulk purchases and transfers of firearms and ammunition. This bill amends RCW 9.41, putting limits on the purchase of firearms and ammunition Limits purchases to 1 gun per 30 day period, and 1000 rounds of ammunition in the same time frame (100 rounds for 50 cal ammunition) https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1132&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1152: Enhancing public safety by establishing secure storage requirements for firearms in vehicles and residences. This bill outlines requirements for firearm storage Requires that handguns stored in a vehicle be kept unloaded in a locked, hard, opaque case that is affixed to the vehicle. The vehicle must be locked Long guns stored in a vehicle must be kept unloaded in a locked, opaque case. Guns kept in soft cases must have a trigger lock. The vehicle must be locked Firearms kept in a home must be stored in either a locked safe, or have a locking device installed (trigger guard, gun lock) Violating this will result in a $1000 fine, a misdemeanor if a prohibited person takes the gun for use in a crime, or a felony if a prohibited person takes the gun and causes injury to a 3rd party. https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1152&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 1504: Enhancing public safety by requiring financial responsibility to purchase or possess a firearm or operate a firearm range. This bill would require all firearm owners to carry liability insurance providing a minimum of $25,000 worth of coverage for any incident arising from accidental or unintentional discharge of the covered firearm causing injury, death, or property damage Would require a separate policy for each individual firearm, and each would need to be specifically identified. A person can exempt themselves from carrying insurance if they deposit $25,000 with the department of licensing. No grandfather clause, so all current firearm owners would be required to carry liability insurance https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1504&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2235: Concerning public records act exemptions regarding concealed pistol licenses, permits to purchase firearms, and firearms purchases or transfers. This bill amends RCW 42.56.240, exempting CCW license applications, firearm purchase permits and firearm transfer applications from the public record https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2235&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2320: Concerning the regulation of firearm manufacturing. This bill regulates firearm manufacturing that involves the use of 3D printers, and CNC machines Makes using a 3D printer/CNC machine to fabricate firearms, or parts for firearms illegal Makes distribution of digital files associated with firearm manufacturing illegal Clause stating that merely possessing digital files associated with firearm manufacturing, is intent to distribute and therefore illegal. Details that this is a matter of public emergency and would take effect immediately upon passage of the bill https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2320&Year=2025&Initiative=false HB 2321: Requiring three-dimensional printers be equipped with certain blocking technologies. This bill is in conjuncture with the previous HB2320, and requires that 3D printers be equipped with technology blocking the manufacture of firearms or firearms parts Requires all 3D printer manufacturers or retailers only sell printers equipped with firearm detection firmware Goes into effect July 1st, 2027 Manufacturer must attest (under penalty of perjury) that their printer is equipped with firmware that rejects components it detects to be firearm related Requires 3D printers sold to accept code from only a single first party slicer https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=2321&Year=2025&Initiative=false SB 5098: Restricting the possession of weapons on the premises of state or local public buildings, parks or playground facilities where children are likely to be present, and county fairs and county fair facilities. Amends RCW 9.41.300 to include more weapon restricted areas Includes all parks where children are likely to be present (as defined by each locality), any building owned or leased by a government entity and county fairs Does not include ferry terminals, Train depots, WSDOT properties or rest areas Beaches are included as an area specifically listed that children may be present https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5098&Year=2025 SB 5099: Protecting the public from gun violence by establishing additional requirements for the business operations of licensed firearms dealers. This bill introduces additional requirements for FFLs or gun dealers Allows state patrol to conduct unannounced periodic inspections of an FFL to ensure compliance with all requirements Bars anyone who has previously had an FFL license revoked, denied, or suspended in the last 5 years from obtaining another FFL, unless the previous license was denied due to paperwork. Adds additional training requirements for all employees of an FFL prior to them engaging in any sale. Requires metal bars or grates be present at the entryways of all FFL's (previously any bar or grate was accepted) Adds additional FFL license renewal fees based on the number of sales in the previous fiscal year (capped at $1500) https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=5099&Year=2025&Initiative=false SB 6055: Concerning firearms background check. Amends RCW 2 43.43.580 and 43.43.58 to remove the cap on the background check fee. No cap, but is stated to be "reasonably calculated to cover the direct and 33 indirect costs to the Washington state patrol incurred in 34 administering the firearm background check program." https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=6055&Year=2025&Initiative=false My Take: There's really 3 groups of bills here. Bills I think are likely to pass, unlikely to pass and uncertain. The bills I believe are unlikely to pass are HB 2321, HB 1132 and HB 1504. HB 2321 is the least likely in my opinion to pass due to the challenge around regulation. I find it unlikely that the house will come to real agreements on the issue and it will get shelved for the time being. HB 1132 is also unlikely in my opinion to pass due to the same law being struck down in California already. The 9th circuit already struck down the 1 gun per month requirement and it wasn't even appealed to the supreme court ( https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2025/07/litigation-highlight-ninth-circuit-strikes-down-californias-one-gun-per-month-rule ). If the 9th strikes down your 2A law, then it's quite certain that it's unconstitutional and I don't think the state will even bother with this one. HB 1504 is the most interesting of the unlikely to pass group IMO just due to how unprecedented it would be. It's almost certainly unconstitutional, and would be the most impactful 2A law passed in decades. It doesn't sound like insurance companies want anything to do with it though and their lobbying might actually work in our favor here. As for the likely to pass category, I have SB 5099, SB 6055, HB 2235 and HB 1386. The first 3 I just listed seem to be fairly inconsequential and only serve to add a small amount of tax revenue to the state, so these to me are going to be bills that aren't going to get much pushback. HB 1386 is the most alarming one to me because it seems likely to be passed and would significantly impact all gun owners in the state. Adding an 11% sales tax to all gun related purchases would of course only be a poll tax and only serve to keep weapons out of the hands of the lower class, but it would also significantly increase the cost to shoot or train. Knowing that we are in a budget deficit means that the legislators are going to be incentivized to add additional taxes wherever available. I'm not going to talk about the rest in depth, but I did want to bring up SB 5098 and HB 1152. These seem like a crapshoot to me, but I do think that they would be a big shakeup and would end up with enough initial pushback that there may be some reservations about passing them. I bring both of these up together because I think if passed in conjunction it would effectively make concealed carry enough of a chore for law abiding citizens that many people may just stop altogether. Making so many places illegal to have a weapon in, and then making it illegal to store your weapon in the car makes it incredibly challenging to carry a firearm on your person legally. If both are passed I expect there to be significant pushback from some of the 2A advocates here. Let me know what you all think, thanks to anyone who read all the way through. Charlie Kirk did a video on this already and I tend to agree with him. The number one priority of this (short) legislative session is money. I doubt any of the non-tax related gun bills will gain traction. It's not that they don't want to do it, they're just going to be focused elsewhere. Inslee and Ferguson really screwed up the budget for this state and it's getting serious. Ferguson has a dilemma. The massive funding for wasteful programs in this state is tied to many votes and campaign contributions. Tax hikes are as popular as they sound. That's why Ferguson is so motivated about bullshitting voters into supporting an income tax. That tax actually has a chance of filling the state coffers. Of course, any income tax will be expanded to the middle class as soon as the next crisis comes around. Seeing as the Democrats have no appetite for fixing the fundamental problems in the budget, the next crisis won't be far off. I'm hoping that voters and large contributors might finally realize (yeah, I know) that voting for a straight blue ticket is bad for them personally. If major contributors are motivated by money, tax hikes can't possibly be in their interest. As far as our 2A rights are concerned, our only real hope is the SCOTUS. But, for whatever reason, they're absolutely not taking any 2A cases. I just can't understand the thinking of the justices. Why would they put out the Bruen opinion if they aren't going to defend it? |
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Originally Posted By DouglasQuaid: Charlie Kirk did a video on this already and I tend to agree with him. The number one priority of this (short) legislative session is money. I doubt any of the non-tax related gun bills will gain traction. It's not that they don't want to do it, they're just going to be focused elsewhere. Inslee and Ferguson really screwed up the budget for this state and it's getting serious. Ferguson has a dilemma. The massive funding for wasteful programs in this state is tied to many votes and campaign contributions. Tax hikes are as popular as they sound. That's why Ferguson is so motivated about bullshitting voters into supporting an income tax. That tax actually has a chance of filling the state coffers. Of course, any income tax will be expanded to the middle class as soon as the next crisis comes around. Seeing as the Democrats have no appetite for fixing the fundamental problems in the budget, the next crisis won't be far off. I'm hoping that voters and large contributors might finally realize (yeah, I know) that voting for a straight blue ticket is bad for them personally. If major contributors are motivated by money, tax hikes can't possibly be in their interest. As far as our 2A rights are concerned, our only real hope is the SCOTUS. But, for whatever reason, they're absolutely not taking any 2A cases. I just can't understand the thinking of the justices. Why would they put out the Bruen opinion if they aren't going to defend it? William Kirk.. Yeah I know a typo. I post over and over again about it here, but for example with the idiotic fish culverts decision ($9 billion and speculated to double) - the state absolutely will not simply sever their incestuous relationship with supercitizens groups like the tribes, even if it means literally shooting themselves in the foot with an income tax. Everyone knows that in an example like this, where the state "lost" a court case to the tribes, the outcome of the case was predetermined and the court proceedings were just for show. It provided a great excuse for the state to claim that they're "required" to spend the money which gets funneled through various contractors who kick back all the graft. I swear this corner of the country has been corrupt for a very long time, but it's a special flavor of corruption that many of the residents just ignore, because the people running the show are "good" and espouse all of the boiler plate progressive opinions. The only thing that's allowed them to continue to get away with it has been the 20-30 year infusion of big tech money. My mom is a typical PNW default liberal. I've tried so many times to convey this bullshit to her. She simply doesn't want to hear it, she practically puts her fingers in her ears and sings "lalalalala" because Biden, Inslee, and Ferguson are all - in her words - "nice men who care about others" to her. I'd love for nothing more than big tech to leave this state and send the whole thing crashing down. |
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It would seem to be an easy argument to point out the additional 11% tax will impact marginalized communities and further shut them out from their constitutional rights whilst ‘privileged’ people can continue to exercise those rights, but it would fall on deaf ears. That said, this must be the message we continue to drive loud and clear to Olympia. I’m also surprised (well, maybe not too much) that the per-gun liability policy has come back around. AFAIK, this is the first bill of its kind (at least according to how it’s worded) in the US, and no insurance company is set up to carry policies like this. I can see this one being the shall-not-comply line in the sand for people. |
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As was evidenced by the previous gun laws where citizens were allowed to voice their opinion, most said nay. The state shoved it through anyway. Our representatives don't even represent their constituents. They will force whatever they think is good for them through. We can't vote them out because conservatives won't win. Unpopular opinion, but until TDS isn't a thing anymore, we'll never have conservatives in any sort of power here. |