Posted: 2/28/2026 10:46:04 AM EDT
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Someone I know got one of those unmanned camera speeding tickets in Dayton a few years back, and we just ignored it as there were no penalties, points, increase in insurance associated with it. Another person I know just got one, and it appears to be the same, basically they want me to own up to it, or out the person that was driving, which ain't going to happen. Am I pretty safe to ignore this one? Do they get the funds through intimidation only still? |
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Me: how are unmanned speeding tickets enforced in Ohio? Google AI response: In Ohio, the enforcement of "unmanned" speeding tickets is a complex legal area characterized by a long-standing tug-of-war between the state legislature and local municipalities. Current Enforcement Status Civil Infractions: Tickets generated by automated cameras are typically treated as civil infractions, not criminal offenses. This means they do not add points to your driving record and are not reported to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles (BMV). Manned vs. Unmanned: Under Ohio Revised Code 4511.093, local authorities are generally required to have a law enforcement officer present at the location of the camera for it to be used for enforcement. Home Rule Authority: Despite state-level restrictions, the Ohio Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that cities have "home rule" authority to use automated cameras without an officer present. However, the state has countered this by passing laws that reduce state funding to any city that collects revenue from such cameras, effectively making "unmanned" programs financially unviable for many jurisdictions. Ohio Laws (.gov) How They Are Enforced If you receive a ticket from an automated system, the following process typically applies: Mailed Notice: The registered owner of the vehicle receives a notice in the mail, usually within 30 days of the violation. Liability: The owner is held responsible unless they provide a notarized affidavit naming the actual driver at the time of the infraction. Collection Efforts: If a civil ticket is ignored, the municipality cannot issue a warrant for your arrest or suspend your license. However, they can: Turn the debt over to a collection agency. File a civil judgment against you, which may impact your credit score. In some jurisdictions, block you from registering your vehicle until the fine is paid. Regional Variations Counties and Townships: Are strictly prohibited from using cameras for enforcement unless an officer is present. Villages and Cities: Some still operate camera programs (e.g., Dayton, Willoughby Hills), but many have switched to handheld devices or "mobile trailers" manned by officers to comply with state law and avoid funding cuts. Dayton.gov don't know if/how Google AI links carry over to other people... Google AI results |
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My wife got one in Lyndhurst, but the ticket had my name on it. I called and said it wasn’t me, I would sign and affidavit stating that, but it wasn’t my duty to rat out who it was. The judge actually called me and gave me a homework assignment to send him an email listing all the traffic cameras in his district. I did and the ticket went away. |
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker: My wife got one in Lyndhurst, but the ticket had my name on it. I called and said it wasn't me, I would sign and affidavit stating that, but it wasn't my duty to rat out who it was. The judge actually called me and gave me a homework assignment to send him an email listing all the traffic cameras in his district. I did and the ticket went away. |
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I do not believe the cities or the companies running the cameras have any enforcement capabilities. I think the AI is wrong above about them being able to impact your credit, but I will find out... I received one of these early this year, I wrote them a note saying to phuk right off (but nicely) and have not heard back from them. I think the original notice said I had 30 days to do a whole bunch of stuff and if I don't, my inaction or inability to do as I am told, would mean I agree with them. If that's not fascism I don't know what is. |
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I have challenged several red light camera tickets for friends and family. Basically it comes down to a game of chicken. Them: Your car ran a red light You: I wasn't driving Them: Then tell us who it was You: I don't know Them: Then you owe us money You: Can you prove it was me Them: If you agree to this civil violation then you owe us money You: It wasn't me, provide proof it was me Them: Ill ding your credit if you don't pay You: The fair credit reporting act makes it a crime to do that if you don't have proof. Generally they go away once they figure out that you are not easy money. I have some template letters for red light violations if you want to alter for this. JLE |
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: are you suggesting the judge didn't like them? Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: Originally Posted By Ironmaker: My wife got one in Lyndhurst, but the ticket had my name on it. I called and said it wasn't me, I would sign and affidavit stating that, but it wasn't my duty to rat out who it was. The judge actually called me and gave me a homework assignment to send him an email listing all the traffic cameras in his district. I did and the ticket went away. No, I think it was just his way of making me do something as retribution for the ticket. |
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