2021 APC Warfighter Challenge Official Thread (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Those of you who went last year, do you feel that NODs are imperative? Lol. Only if you dont want to fall off a cliff. Because you crave sugary soda and it taunts you to creep ever closer to the edge. Drink me. It says. Also cougars and stallions. But every year will be different. Attached File Honestly I dont think they are imperative. I was just joshing. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Those of you who went last year, do you feel that NODs are imperative? Last year I’d say that NODs were imperative for the land nav portion. I think the land nav is going to be set up a bit differently this year but I have to think that there’s no way that NODs aren’t going to be a huge advantage. We’ll be doing stuff in the dark, after all. You should totally get NODs. Look how bummed this guy with no NODs looked as the sun began to dip below the horizon. 
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I did fine without nods. There was a decent amount of moonlight. Sunset will be later in May. Moonrise will be after midnight. |
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The guys with nods had a clear advantage last year, especially when the "no visible light" rule was in effect. That said, the land nav portion was doable without them. I bailed not long after dark, but that was more about me being a pussy than it being impossible. Sucking at land nav is a much greater handicap than lack of nods, I'd suggest being sorted there. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: That guy up there does look pretty bummed though. Don't steal his truck, he'll whine about it for the next 6 months.  ETA: If the land nav had been with the moon the next night, you could have read the newspaper while you did it W/O Nods. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Don't steal his truck, he'll whine about it for the next 6 months. ETA: If the land nav had been with the moon the next night, you could have read the newspaper while you did it W/O Nods. That moon was spectacular. I dont think the guys with the weird green hats used nods and one of them found all his points. I have done a few night land nav courses in arizona and washington without nods and under red light rule and had no probs finding all points back then. Thermal is critical though for detecting the chupacabra that roams those parts. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: The guys with nods had a clear advantage last year, especially when the "no visible light" rule was in effect. That said, the land nav portion was doable without them. I bailed not long after dark, but that was more about me being a pussy than it being impossible. Sucking at land nav is a much greater handicap than lack of nods, I'd suggest being sorted there. Skill >>> equipment. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: I don't think Ed is giving up his transport position without a fight. Might have to schedule some sort of geriatric throwdown pre-event to settle this  Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: Originally Posted By TNC: ETA: I'd consider a staph position if I'm guaranteed a heated steering wheel in the porta-john truck. I don't think Ed is giving up his transport position without a fight. Might have to schedule some sort of geriatric throwdown pre-event to settle this Done. I just suggested to his CO that he is needed in some faraway place. Old age and treachery >>> youth and enthusiasm |
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Anyone looking to drive out from VA? I have a truck, but optimistically I am looking at a 1400 dollar fuel budget, so getting two or three people to ride along to share the cost and cannonball-run drive time with would be awesome. Flying is out for me, I hate, hate, hate flying with long guns. |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Anyone looking to drive out from VA? I have a truck, but optimistically I am looking at a 1400 dollar fuel budget, so getting two or three people to ride along to share the cost and cannonball-run drive time with would be awesome. Flying is out for me, I hate, hate, hate flying with long guns. I'm leaving next weekend. If you want, I can take a rifle in my vehicle so you don't need to fly with it. You might also consider linking up with @theradbaron and crew in Illinois and carpooling from there. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Got the email last night from Ben and it looks largely the same as last year. I'll need to get a rangefinder and potentially running 223 out to 700 will require some glass. I'd not recommend buying optional gear. Come as you are. See what you can do. Reevaluate for next time. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Got the email last night from Ben and it looks largely the same as last year. I'll need to get a rangefinder and potentially running 223 out to 700 will require some glass. It may come down between you and your partner. You may not both need the capability to hit that distance. There are definitely some great to be made if partners are paired for the whole shebang. |
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Originally Posted By SoFlaNick: It may come down between you and your partner. You may not both need the capability to hit that distance. There are definitely some great to be made if partners are paired for the whole shebang. Originally Posted By SoFlaNick: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Got the email last night from Ben and it looks largely the same as last year. I'll need to get a rangefinder and potentially running 223 out to 700 will require some glass. It may come down between you and your partner. You may not both need the capability to hit that distance. There are definitely some great to be made if partners are paired for the whole shebang. What would lead you to believe you will be pair with a partner the whole time this year?  I'm saying nothing except that you better bring all the mandatory gear.  Also, if you know someone who wants to attend, please encourage them to get signed up ASAP. We are closing in on the deadline. Try to keep the thread bumped in GD as well...located here. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: What would lead you to believe you will be pair with a partner the whole time this year? I'm saying nothing except that you better bring all the mandatory gear. Also, if you know someone who wants to attend, please encourage them to get signed up ASAP. We are closing in on the deadline. Try to keep the thread bumped in GD as well...located here. Definitely some misguided intuition. My partner is gonna leave me in the dust, so that's a (potential) relief |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: @Ben, when is the deadline for registration? My neighbor (BB 3rd class) has been on the fence for months, need to let him know the clock is running out. Registration ends the 22d. |
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Originally Posted By TNC: The run n gun crew is on to us. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/Screenshot_20210513-123243-1940937.png Bless that dude! No 7th SF Group team this year, and I'm focusing on staff duties and not competing, so he has a good chance! |
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Originally Posted By TNC: The run n gun crew is on to us. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/Screenshot_20210513-123243-1940937.png Spoiler alert the RNG crew has been here the entire time! 👀👀👀 |
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Originally Posted By SoFlaNick: Spoiler alert the RNG crew has been here the entire time! 👀👀👀 Originally Posted By SoFlaNick: Originally Posted By TNC: The run n gun crew is on to us. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/Screenshot_20210513-123243-1940937.png Spoiler alert the RNG crew has been here the entire time! 👀👀👀 PNW needs more RNG. How do we start events up here? |
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Originally Posted By TNC: PNW needs more RNG. How do we start events up here? I hear there have been some in Portland and the CHAZ... 
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Originally Posted By Jenzilla: I hear there have been some in Portland and the CHAZ... Originally Posted By Jenzilla: Originally Posted By TNC: PNW needs more RNG. How do we start events up here? I hear there have been some in Portland and the CHAZ... Those were more of a run 'n scream, but I really liked the molotov stage. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: OD field jacket and coyote brown pants is the APC "uniform" if you're not mil. Correct. Encouraged, but not required except at special events. Usually events where it gives us value by letting us at a glance identify who is U.S. mil and who is civilian from a distance. |
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Originally Posted By TNC: PNW needs more RNG. How do we start events up here? At a minimum: Find land that will let a bunch of people run around with guns. Have some targets, shot timers, and a scoring system, then get a bunch of people to volunteer as ROs. Invite competitors. Run the match. That's about it. Follow me for more recipes. |
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Originally Posted By SWedd523: Tiger stripe ranger panties being the unofficial uniform. At least one size too small is preferred, but not required. PSA, eye bleach is as difficult to find near the event as gas is in DC, recommend bringing your own
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Originally Posted By ClangClang: At a minimum: Find land that will let a bunch of people run around with guns. Have some targets, shot timers, and a scoring system, then get a bunch of people to volunteer as ROs. Invite competitors. Run the match. That's about it. Follow me for more recipes. Originally Posted By ClangClang: Originally Posted By TNC: PNW needs more RNG. How do we start events up here? At a minimum: Find land that will let a bunch of people run around with guns. Have some targets, shot timers, and a scoring system, then get a bunch of people to volunteer as ROs. Invite competitors. Run the match. That's about it. Follow me for more recipes. Simple! I'll get my best people on it.
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Originally Posted By Ben: Correct. Encouraged, but not required except at special events. Usually events where it gives us value by letting us at a glance identify who is U.S. mil and who is civilian from a distance. Like Jacket Jacket or would a Field "shirt" suffice? Like those fishing shirts with the pockets. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Like Jacket Jacket or would a Field "shirt" suffice? Like those fishing shirts with the pockets. If you can fit a Large Regular, I can bring a couple extras along. On another note its almost comical how different each OD is from different companies. Top is TruSpec, next is Propper( with modified shoulder pockets and velcro), Helikon Tex, and bottom is a Vertx. Attached File |