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4/12/2026 6:16:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gotigers][Edited]
I was shooting 4+ matches (3gun, carbine, USPSA, Steel Challenge) a month before covid. Since covid, i bet i haven't shot 15 matches. 3 gun is over, i am ok for carbine, I plan on a new Ruger 22/45 lite for Steel Challenge. For USPSA i need some advice.

I have shot S&W M&P for all 3 gun and pistol matches since they came out. I still have them. They are fine guns. One is for Production and one is for Limited, but... 1. i am bored with them, 2. All the LTD shooters have moved to LTD Optics. I could get the M&P 2.0 LTD gun slide cut for a red dot, but i would like to keep it as is for "reasons".

I am not interested in 2011's or similar. No knock on them, but not my thing.

I am not a Glock guy. No knock on them, but not my thing.

I like the idea of a M&P Competitor. Do they take the same mags as my M&P 1.0 & 2.0? I can use the same holster. Do they only come ported? They are not ported. Can i get it with a flat trigger? I guess i could swap it. If you shoot them in competitions, tell me about them.

I've had a P365X with an EPS Carry for a few years as my winter carry and love it. The P365 Fuse series has my attention. How are these for comp?

What else should i look at?
4/12/2026 6:46:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Take a look at the CZ Shadow 2 series and the Walther PDP series. Between the two, I think that the PDP is a better balanced pistol.
4/12/2026 8:50:32 PM EDT
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I don’t shoot M&P’s but see a fair amount of them at USPSA matches in my area. Most have Apex barrels and triggers and shoot in either Production or Carry Optics. I do know a guy that has one in .40 that he had cut for an optic and shoots in Limited 10.

Around here it can be a case of different guns/divisions for different clubs/matches. I shoot Limited Optics mostly, but shoot Limited at a certain club that has a range setup that leans more toward fast hoser stages with minimal no-shoots - so I forego the red dot for iron sights and major power factor.

My suggestion would be to hit a couple matches with the equipment you already have and then make a decision about how to proceed. Caveat being that if you’re looking to modify an existing gun or get a new gun to respark interest, that’s very reasonable, as well.
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
4/13/2026 8:09:06 AM EDT
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I young man I shoot with just hit GM with a Canik.  First with a poly framed one and he upgraded to a steel one in the last few months.

Lots of good options out there.  If budget allows look at the DWX.  The Shadow 2 and CZ P10F also are very respectable performers.  I own all these.
4/13/2026 5:29:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tt350z][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By dogtired:
I young man I shoot with just hit GM with a Canik.  First with a poly framed one and he upgraded to a steel one in the last few months.

Lots of good options out there.  If budget allows look at the DWX.  The Shadow 2 and CZ P10F also are very respectable performers.  I own all these.
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Sounds like someone I shoot with, I wonder if we know the same person. Are his initials JH and mainly shoots in NE OK and NW AR?

But to stay on topic, I wouldn't consider the aluminum frame M&P Competitor. I'd want the steel frame Competitor HD for sure.
4/14/2026 8:37:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gotigers][Edited] [#5]
I have shot matches with a lot of CZ shooters. I will talk to some of them and try to shoot a few.

I tried Canik a few years ago. I think i got the only Canik TP9SFX with a shitty trigger. Complete POS.
4/14/2026 10:54:32 AM EDT
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Sounds like someone I shoot with, I wonder if we know the same person. Are his initials JH and mainly shoots in NE OK and NW AR?

But to stay on topic, I wouldn't consider the aluminum frame M&P Competitor. I'd want the steel frame Competitor HD for sure.
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Yup, that’s him.
4/16/2026 2:00:16 AM EDT
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Look at the new VP9A1 F

4/16/2026 7:50:46 AM EDT
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Look at the new VP9A1 F

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Interesting and a good looking gun with good specs/price.
4/16/2026 3:11:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gibson0822][Edited] [#9]
The P365 Fuse slide heats up rather quickly. Something to keep in mind. Shooting wise, I like mine. I have an Icarus grip module on it currently but there's a ton of options out there. There's a few options for recoil kits so you can tune it to your ammo as well. Not a terrible trigger, but definitely better ones out there. Spring kits can help. Armory Craft has some, I'm sure there's others. I got about 2.5k rounds through mine, plus a ton of dry fire so it's fairly smoothed out. Only spring swap I did was the firmer reset spring from AC. All that being said, if I were to do comps, I'd probably go Shadow 2 or DWX if they worked in the division I wanted. I have a Cajunized SP01 that I love to shoot. It's very accurate, shoots flat and all of it cost me as much as the stock Fuse did.

Edit: Between the Shadow 2 and the DWX, the Shadow 2 has a much bigger aftermarket.
4/16/2026 9:07:08 PM EDT
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OP, I believe the new M&P 2.0 Comp use the same 17 rds magazines as 1.0 version.  Most comfortable pistol for me also as I've used mine for 10 years in 3 gun matches.  Apex gunsmith fit barrel and Apex trigger.  The 1.0 factory barrel sux because it unlocked a bit early as noted by Apex.

I now use a slightly modified Canik 9TPfx, its trigger is phenomenal out of the box but with the replacement FreedomSmith Pro flat face trigger, it is even better.  For the money, it is a better pistol than my old M&P but I still bring the M&P to the match as backup.

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