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12/1/2017 5:46:00 PM EDT
How many have speculated about the performance of the bargain brand ammo out there? I know I have. There have been times in the past that I carried such ammo for one reason or another and info on their performance was mostly nonexistent. Well, I had the opportunity to try some Winchester 115gr JHP’s in Clear Ballistics gel. Hopefully, this will be helpful for individuals who, for whatever reason, choose to use or must use this type of ammo. Guns used are a Sig P229 with a 3.9-inch barrel and a Beretta Nano with a three-inch barrel. Two blocks of 16 inch Clear Ballistics gel shot a distance of 10 feet. Two rounds into the bare gel, two through heavy clothing, and two into the bare gel with the short barrel Nano.



Round one from the Sig P229 into bare gel penetrated to 11.5 inches and expanded to .59 inches. Some of the jacket pedals came off between the eight and nine-inch mark and the bullet weighed 113gr. The crony didn’t pick up the velocity. Round two had a velocity of 1108 fps and also penetrated to 11.5 inches and expanded to .61 inches. This bullet didn’t lose any jacket material.



Round one in heavy clothing impacted at 1127 fps and penetrated to 13.75 inches with an expanded diameter of .53 inches. The second round had a velocity of 1126, penetrated to 13.5 inches and expanded to .52 inches.



The first round out of the 3 inch Nano had a velocity of 1078 fps and penetrated to 12.5 inches and expanded to .54 inches. Round two had a velocity of 1064fps, went 11.75 inches and expanded to .56 inches.



http://www.general-cartridge.com
12/1/2017 5:50:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Pretty consistent. I wouldn’t have a problem carrying it.
12/1/2017 5:58:45 PM EDT
[#2]
That's pretty interesting. The cheapo WWB did as well (or maybe even a little better) than some "serious" ammo out there.
12/1/2017 6:11:34 PM EDT
[#3]
That looks pretty good
12/1/2017 6:25:59 PM EDT
[#4]
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That's pretty interesting. The cheapo WWB did as well (or maybe even a little better) than some "serious" ammo out there.
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While not as good as a Gold Dot or HST, it did do better than some I have tested.
12/1/2017 7:27:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Not bad at all.
12/1/2017 7:38:25 PM EDT
[#6]
I had similar results swhen I tested the 147 variant. I would not hesitate to carry this 115 or the 147, despite my preferences for 9mm projectiles in 147. Thanks for the great work.
12/1/2017 7:49:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for posting, guessing it is similar to the old Federal offering;

9mm Luger Federal Classic Hi-Shok 115 grain JHP Hollow point 9BP

Bought a decent amount of that for cheap at one time, IIRC about $11/box.
12/1/2017 8:15:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Ranger T Bonded ?
12/1/2017 10:54:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Interesting.  Thanks.
12/3/2017 11:40:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for posting.
IMHO they performed very well. Better than I would have hoped. Although a little more penetration would be better.
I bet there are a lot of homes being protected with this "cheap" ammo. I believe the "White Box" ammo is the same as the Silver Tip line just without the super tactical chrome on the bullet.
12/3/2017 11:34:50 PM EDT
[#11]
WWB 115gr HP was one of the best performing rounds in the short barrel 9mm tests that ammo quest did.  Search YouTube for it.
12/4/2017 1:12:58 AM EDT
[#12]
I found some of the WWB a couple of years ago and carried it in my Glock 43 and Glock 19 till very recently.  My Agency basically issued the same bullet from WW in the 115 grain +P+ variety.    The +P+ 115 grain JHP performed very well on the street out of our 6904’s, 5904’s and Colt sub guns.   My agency never experienced insufficient penetration with this load as it behaved very similar to the 125 grain JHP out of a 4” 357 revolver.
12/4/2017 2:23:31 AM EDT
[#13]
I carry WWB 147gr. It uses the older Olin super mach bullet but expands well and is cheap enough to practice with fairly consistently.
12/4/2017 1:18:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Looks pretty good.  Thanks for sharing
12/4/2017 4:46:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for taking time to do these test and posting it here.
12/4/2017 7:38:44 PM EDT
[#16]
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I found some of the WWB a couple of years ago and carried it in my Glock 43 and Glock 19 till very recently.  My Agency basically issued the same bullet from WW in the 115 grain +P+ variety.    The +P+ 115 grain JHP performed very well on the street out of our 6904’s, 5904’s and Colt sub guns.   My agency never experienced insufficient penetration with this load as it behaved very similar to the 125 grain JHP out of a 4” 357 revolver.
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I have a bunch of these handloaded to 1275. Thanks for sharing.
1/28/2018 8:40:14 PM EDT
[#17]
It's pretty accurate ammo, and ten years ago I could walk into a sporting goods store and buy a box for 20 bucks. Now it's almost impossible to find.
1/28/2018 10:58:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Pretty impressive given it's such a budget round! A little short on penetration but it's less than an inch short so it definitely could be worse!

Thanks again for testing I know it takes a lot of $$ and work/time!
1/29/2018 9:51:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Very interesting. I found a bunch of that stuff over Christmas Break as I was inventorying my ammo stores. I plan to rotate it through my carry guns over the next couple years. I have a lot of misc. ammo like this to use up.....as I transition over to HST's that I have been stocking more recently.....

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