Posted: 8/21/2025 7:19:00 PM EDT
| Seems like they easily could have designed the slides to match Glock slides and then the Dagger would be compatible with pre-existing Glock holsters. Is there a reason they designed a new slide geometry? |
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Not trademark ... trade dress, Trade dress is a form of intellectual property that protects the distinctive visual appearance of a product or its packaging. It's a type of trademark law that aims to prevent consumer confusion by distinguishing a product's source. Trade dress can include elements like shape, color, texture, and even the overall design of a product or its packaging. The PSA Dagger Compact was designed by Dusty Sroufe (with Jamin looking over his shoulder). This was still rather early in the "Glock Clone Wars". Jamin didn't want to poke the bear. Hence the Dagger extreme slide chamfer ... distinctly different from the sexy OEM Glock gen5 bullnose. There were differences in the accessory rail. Palm swell. The sharp lip on the front of the Dagger Compact frame which cuts into your pinkie. Of course, Dusty now owns Grit Grips. Dusty just developed a "G26X" frame for Lenny at the GlockStore. Dusty went so far as to design the G26X frame to be compatible with OEM Glock G26 magwells and grip plugs. In the past, this was unheard of. Almost all Glock clones require a custom magwell ... including the PSA Dagger Compact and Grit Grips G19 gen3 frame. Clearly, Glock clone designers are getting more brazen. Fuck the bear. I'm more interested in the grip angle. Dusty is a 1911 18° grip angle guy. Chad Wylie was a 1911 guy. The Grit Grips G19 gen3 frame has a 1911 18° grip angle. However, when Dusty developed the "G26X" frame, Lenny (being a "real" Glock guy) insisted the frame have the OEM Glock 22° grip angle. Dusty just posted a rendering of the Grit Grips G43X/G48 frame today. Unfortunately, he's back to the 1911 18° grip angle. I have my fingers crossed Lenny is going to want his own G43X/G48 frame with, of course, the OEM Glock 22° grip angle. |
As wickedbeernut said (probably, he types more than even I do  ), the Dagger frame is the issue. I've probably tried eight different SafariLand holsters over the years with dagger frames and if it is a weapon light or RDS holster, you have a better chance of it fitting. Non-optic holsters typically have issues with the taller sites that are now standard on Dagger slides. The original non-optic ECC slides had regular height sights and would typically fit just fine. Thanks to Amazon incompetence, I ended up with a left hand 6378 for a Smith & Wesson M&P and yes, the dagger fit perfectly. I also ended up with an unknown manufacturer pancake holster that looks like it is very strongly fitted for a M&P and it fit perfectly (no light version). I was actually able to shake the bejesus out of it upside down and it still wouldn't let go. I'm still a fan of the original ECC slides and still carry a PVD slide to this day (Aim Surplus barrel and all OEM Glock internal parts). The tapered nose is easier to reholster (in my experience) over a square Glock slide or even the Gen 5 bullnose (or Remsport Gen3 version). I have used it on the following frames. Ruger RXM FCI and G19 size grip frame Combat Armory Shadow Systems MR920 Glock G45 Glock G19 Gen5 Glock G19 Gen4 Grit Grips G19 frame PSA Dagger Compact PSA Dagger S PSA Dagger chopped to G26L size |
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Because it's not a glock? What holsters lock up with the slides? Everyone I know of does trigger guard, gravity, or wml. |
Seriously, a tractor dealer from Possum Trot, KY has to explain this to you, a lawyer? - JPL
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WTB: Glock 17 gen 2. SN CAF 895
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always look good for the crowd.
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: I'm more interested in the grip angle. Dusty is a 1911 18 grip angle guy. Chad Wylie was a 1911 guy. The Grit Grips G19 gen3 frame has a 1911 18 grip angle. However, when Dusty developed the "G26X" frame, Lenny (being a "real" Glock guy) insisted the frame have the OEM Glock 22 grip angle. Dusty just posted a rendering of the Grit Grips G43X/G48 frame today. Unfortunately, he's back to the 1911 18 grip angle. I have my fingers crossed Lenny is going to want his own G43X/G48 frame with, of course, the OEM Glock 22 grip angle. #1 - who is Chad Wylie? #2 - I actually laughed when Dusty called you out  |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: #1 - who is Chad Wylie? Originally Posted By DavidY: #1 - who is Chad Wylie? #2 - I actually laughed when Dusty called you out |
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Originally Posted By JHMC79: I mean you can’t just totally rip off someone else’s design. That would cause hurt feelings. |