Who is up for a Scandium "I" framed revolver in .32 H&R Magnum with a Titanium cylinder? (Page 1 of 2)
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Feather-light, sufficiently powerful, 6-shot, durable, in either a 2" or 3" barrel? Bring it on! |
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It's called the Model 332 AirLite ti, made in the later 1990's. S&W currently has their Model 432 available with a titanium cylinder, but it's a standard aluminum alloy frame, not the scandium aluminum alloy. The scandium alloy is needed for the true magnums (357, 41 & 44) that have 35,000 psi ammo, but the 32 Magnum max pressure is much lower at 21,000 CUP; so the scandium alloy isn't actually needed and I doubt S&W will use scandium alloy anywhere it isn't actually required as scandium is only mined in a few places, one of which is Ukraine. The proposed Nebraska rare earth mine will produce scandium as well as the various lanthanides, so if it ever goes online S&W may start using the scandium aluminum alloy in more revolvers and the 1911 again. |
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Both men and women would love it. While it may have a sharp bit of recoil, the light weight (less than 11 ounces) would allow for all-day carry without suffering from "handgun fatigue". I have one of the S&W "Airweight" Centennials chambered for the .32 H&R Magnum cartridge, and like it very much! Charter Arms comes close, but if S&W manufactured it, the little revolvers would fly off the shelves. Sales could rival those of Ruger's Lightweight Compact Revolver. I would dub mine, "Mr. Nasty." |
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Wait until sales slow down for the .32 J frame UC and then introduce the i frame. Get bothAttached File |
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I’d rather have a run of 631 Targets. A 631 in 2,3 and 4”. I am not a huge fan of any of the alloy guns. If something goes wrong S&W usually just says that it is not repairable. I am a fan of the .32s. I own a 31-1, a Sp101 4.2” .327 and a recently a 16-4. I haven’t even shot .327 ammo, a stout .32 H&R is good enough for me. A 2” model 30 J frame not the I frame would be pretty sweet. A nice used 2” SP101 in .32 H&R wouldn’t hurt my feelings either. I saw a 2” I frame flat latch .32 S&W Long model 30 but I didn’t feel the draw for the I frame. |
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Originally Posted By LittleAugieMo: Would be IN with .327 fed. Mag. Could always shoot .32 H&R mag or .32... Same. The versatility of running .32ACP, .32S&W, 32 Long, .32 H&R, and .327 would be really interesting in something so small. Right now I'm doing all that in a 3"SP101, but having something really light and small would be cool |
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The whole idea is to mirror what Charter Arms did with the "Undercoverette", but lighter and stronger with more durable/resilient materials. This seems logical and would make for a carry revolver that's so light and quick that every policewoman and detective would be in love with it. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: The whole idea is to mirror what Charter Arms did with the "Undercoverette", but lighter and stronger with more durable/resilient materials. This seems logical and would make for a carry revolver that's so light and quick that every policewoman and detective would be in love with it.  I was with you right up til then. This ain't the 1960's. I last saw a cop carrying a revolver maybe in 2016?
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Clearing a jam when someone is trying to kill you is not something I want to attempt. I used to work as an Armed Security Patrol Officer in downtown Portland, Oregon, back in '05. I carried a Glock Model 20. (I stopped carrying my 6" barreled Colt Trooper Mark III). The light, concealable 6-shot .32 Magnum still has its place. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: Clearing a jam when someone is trying to kill you is not something I want to attempt. I used to work as an Armed Security Patrol Officer in downtown Portland, Oregon, back in '05. I carried a Glock Model 20. (I stopped carrying my 6" barreled Colt Trooper Mark III). The light, concealable 6-shot .32 Magnum still has its place. Sure. But policewemin ain't carrying I frames about - they shoot themselves in the ass w/ 320s now. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: Clearing a jam when someone is trying to kill you is not something I want to attempt. I used to work as an Armed Security Patrol Officer in downtown Portland, Oregon, back in '05. I carried a Glock Model 20. (I stopped carrying my 6" barreled Colt Trooper Mark III). The light, concealable 6-shot .32 Magnum still has its place. A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. |
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK: A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. That is a lot less likely. I have been shooting since 1962 (I was 6 years old). This is why the police used revolvers from 1906-1980. There is a reason the S&W Model 10 was the "workhorse of the police force" for 74 years. They are easy to service and far less likely to malfunction. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: That is a lot less likely. I have been shooting since 1962 (I was 6 years old). This is why the police used revolvers from 1906-1980. There is a reason the S&W Model 10 was the "workhorse of the police force" for 74 years. They are easy to service and far less likely to malfunction. Originally Posted By CaptainO: Originally Posted By NN300BLK: A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. That is a lot less likely. I have been shooting since 1962 (I was 6 years old). This is why the police used revolvers from 1906-1980. There is a reason the S&W Model 10 was the "workhorse of the police force" for 74 years. They are easy to service and far less likely to malfunction. And there's a reason cops have been using semi-autos for most of the last half century. We get that you're nostalgic about the past. Nostalgia doesn't translate into real-world advantage. |
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK: A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By CaptainO: Clearing a jam when someone is trying to kill you is not something I want to attempt. I used to work as an Armed Security Patrol Officer in downtown Portland, Oregon, back in '05. I carried a Glock Model 20. (I stopped carrying my 6" barreled Colt Trooper Mark III). The light, concealable 6-shot .32 Magnum still has its place. A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: That is a lot less likely. I have been shooting since 1962 (I was 6 years old). This is why the police used revolvers from 1906-1980. There is a reason the S&W Model 10 was the "workhorse of the police force" for 74 years. They are easy to service and far less likely to malfunction. Originally Posted By CaptainO: Originally Posted By NN300BLK: A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. That is a lot less likely. I have been shooting since 1962 (I was 6 years old). This is why the police used revolvers from 1906-1980. There is a reason the S&W Model 10 was the "workhorse of the police force" for 74 years. They are easy to service and far less likely to malfunction. |
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Originally Posted By jhereg: That's been my experience. They don't tend to happen as often if you use the right ammo but when it happens you're done. Better have a NY reload. Originally Posted By jhereg: Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By CaptainO: Clearing a jam when someone is trying to kill you is not something I want to attempt. I used to work as an Armed Security Patrol Officer in downtown Portland, Oregon, back in '05. I carried a Glock Model 20. (I stopped carrying my 6" barreled Colt Trooper Mark III). The light, concealable 6-shot .32 Magnum still has its place. A jammed revolver is a lot harder/slower to fix than a jammed semi-auto. I'm not anti-revolver either, I was just pointing out that the "jam-free" revolver is a myth. I've had a total of maybe 5 or 6 non-ammunition-induced stoppages in semi-autos. Four or five limp-wrists FTF in a micro 9 and one failure to feed in my 1911, which I believe was due to my hand kind of catching the rear sight when I pulled back on the slide. None of those problems took the gun out of action. I could fix them standing there relatively quickly. On the micro-9, would it be easy to fix under duress? No, but the gun is designed to be very concealable, so there has to be a compromise somewhere. The rest have always been ammunition-related, which I've yet to experience with quality defensive ammunition. |
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Originally Posted By ken_mays: I'd love a .32 Fed Mag with adjustable rear sight.. unfortunately I haven't seen one at all around locally. I acquired some .32 H&R bullets and brass that I'm itching to load up. Limited availability.  
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Limited availability. https://www.ruger.com/productImages/5773/detail/1.jpg That's the one I was looking at (not that there are a lot of options) but really don't want to order one in. |
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Originally Posted By ken_mays: That's the one I was looking at (not that there are a lot of options) but really don't want to order one in. Originally Posted By ken_mays: Originally Posted By backbencher: Limited availability. https://www.ruger.com/productImages/5773/detail/1.jpg That's the one I was looking at (not that there are a lot of options) but really don't want to order one in. Limited Availability means it's maybe on Gun Broker. 
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I'm happy with my SP101 in .327 Federal. I put the MCarbo trigger tuneup kit in it, made for a very nice trigger, and I'm normally a S&W guy when it comes to revolvers. |
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Originally Posted By BlitzPig: I'm happy with my SP101 in .327 Federal. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1310/1HgCsS.jpg I put the MCarbo trigger tuneup kit in it, made for a very nice trigger, and I'm normally a S&W guy when it comes to revolvers. I bet that's a fun gun to shoot. I've never shot a 327 or 32HR but in a SP101 sized gun that has to be fun. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: Within a week, I'll have my new Charter Arms "Undercoverette" (in .32 H&R Magnum, of course.) The revolver cost me $367.99 + $10.00 for the OSP Background Check. Life is good.  Check that revolver over VERY carefully before you fill out the 4473. In particular check the machining on the barrel casting, the verticality of the front sight, and the ability of the ejector star to sit flush under spring power alone. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Check that revolver over VERY carefully before you fill out the 4473. In particular check the machining on the barrel casting, the verticality of the front sight, and the ability of the ejector star to sit flush under spring power alone. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By CaptainO: Within a week, I'll have my new Charter Arms "Undercoverette" (in .32 H&R Magnum, of course.) The revolver cost me $367.99 + $10.00 for the OSP Background Check. Life is good. Check that revolver over VERY carefully before you fill out the 4473. In particular check the machining on the barrel casting, the verticality of the front sight, and the ability of the ejector star to sit flush under spring power alone. @backbencher, I've been thinking about picking up a 4" Viper as a range gun, but I'm a little hesitant because of what I've heard (and seen) with Colt's historic quality standards. Have you heard of any issues/had any unhappy customers with the new snake guns? |
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Originally Posted By ken_mays: I might even consider (*sob*) the Taurus Toro. Take heart. Last summer I bought a late model Taurus 605 .357. The story from the shop was that some guy bought it new two weeks prior. Stuffed it with full power 158gr .357, handed it to his wife and she fired 3 of the 5 shots and done. I got it for $300 otd. I've now carried it for 6 months and can find nothing wrong with it. I've put maybe 500 .38 loads and a couple hundred .357 125s, and maybe 100 158s through it with no issues. Its a bit sporty with 158s, but I do carry them outdoors. Im getting about 1030 fps out of the 2". Same load in my 6" ruger is averaging 1280fps. For reasons unknown to me, the 605 does not induce lower back pain even after all day hikes, my G43x does, maybe its a holster thing. I think its highly probable that Taurus new leadership got their qc shit together. |
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Originally Posted By ken_mays: I'd love a .32 Fed Mag with adjustable rear sight.. unfortunately I haven't seen one at all around locally. I acquired some .32 H&R bullets and brass that I'm itching to load up. It took me over a year to find a Sp101 in that configuration. It was simply waiting for Ruger to make another batch when it’s turn came in the production run lists. It usually takes longer with them. As it was I got that gun while trying to buy the Ruger made Marlin .357, my FFL got the offer to buy only if he bought a second Ruger as the lever gun was on allocation. I bought both lol. I cast my bullets but Hornady XTPs will work nicely. |
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Originally Posted By BlitzPig: I'm happy with my SP101 in .327 Federal. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1310/1HgCsS.jpg I put the MCarbo trigger tuneup kit in it, made for a very nice trigger, and I'm normally a S&W guy when it comes to revolvers. Mine is very similar, the grips, I used Wolff springs and also shimmed the hammer pin and trigger pin. I am running the 10# spring again after using the 12# for a while. The 10# still has the odd failure to ignight older blue box Winchester primers but Federal always light. Even cleaned up the SP101 trigger isn’t in the same camp as a good S&W trigger. Stock the Sp101 triggers are quite heavy and usually fouled with machining chips until you clean them out. |
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK: @backbencher, I've been thinking about picking up a 4" Viper as a range gun, but I'm a little hesitant because of what I've heard (and seen) with Colt's historic quality standards. Have you heard of any issues/had any unhappy customers with the new snake guns? Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By CaptainO: Within a week, I'll have my new Charter Arms "Undercoverette" (in .32 H&R Magnum, of course.) The revolver cost me $367.99 + $10.00 for the OSP Background Check. Life is good. Check that revolver over VERY carefully before you fill out the 4473. In particular check the machining on the barrel casting, the verticality of the front sight, and the ability of the ejector star to sit flush under spring power alone. @backbencher, I've been thinking about picking up a 4" Viper as a range gun, but I'm a little hesitant because of what I've heard (and seen) with Colt's historic quality standards. Have you heard of any issues/had any unhappy customers with the new snake guns? There have been a couple of threads here, I haven't gotten one in to look at, I'm an impulse buy seller for the most part. I did recently get a Colt .38 Super 1911 and it promptly sold b/c it was pretty, it was Colt, and in .38 Super. I don't usually put twice my normal capital in that gun, but I couldn't get the cheap Philippine .38 Supers for that weekend. I tried 4x Charters as a slight step up from Rock Island & Taurus, and Charter isn't. Of 4 guns, I had to send half back for repair. Minor things, but the guns weren't salable out of the box. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I bet that's a fun gun to shoot. I've never shot a 327 or 32HR but in a SP101 sized gun that has to be fun. Absolutely. I bought one of the Talo exclusive 3” barreled ones, and liked it so much I bought a stainless full lug. Shooting 32 H&R wadcutters is a hoot. Oh, and these both have wind age adjustable rear sights. FYI |
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What about playing with the .32 S&W? The little "popper" has been used to control garden pests, among other uses. About 10 years ago, I listened to the story of a man whose father used the little 88-grain RNL in his pigsty to slaughter 300-pound hogs by placing the muzzle of a little .32 S&W revolver at the base of the hog's skull. One pull of its single-action trigger, and it was "lights out". Cut the hog's throat, bleed it out, and complete the butchering process. Voila! Pork products. |
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Originally Posted By bullsi191145: Absolutely. I bought one of the Talo exclusive 3” barreled ones, and liked it so much I bought a stainless full lug. Shooting 32 H&R wadcutters is a hoot. https://gunsandoutdoors.net/forum/download/file.php?id=8863 Oh, and these both have wind age adjustable rear sights. FYI How much does the POI change between .327 FM and .32 H&R mag? |
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Yeah, I bought a 1980 32 S&WL Charter at a show for $250 and was surprised that I really like it. It came with the Bianchi J-frame holster, but it's loose inside. I'm coming to the conclusion that snubs in 32 are the better option than 38. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: There have been a couple of threads here, I haven't gotten one in to look at, I'm an impulse buy seller for the most part. I did recently get a Colt .38 Super 1911 and it promptly sold b/c it was pretty, it was Colt, and in .38 Super. I don't usually put twice my normal capital in that gun, but I couldn't get the cheap Philippine .38 Supers for that weekend. I tried 4x Charters as a slight step up from Rock Island & Taurus, and Charter isn't. Of 4 guns, I had to send half back for repair. Minor things, but the guns weren't salable out of the box. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By CaptainO: Within a week, I'll have my new Charter Arms "Undercoverette" (in .32 H&R Magnum, of course.) The revolver cost me $367.99 + $10.00 for the OSP Background Check. Life is good. Check that revolver over VERY carefully before you fill out the 4473. In particular check the machining on the barrel casting, the verticality of the front sight, and the ability of the ejector star to sit flush under spring power alone. @backbencher, I've been thinking about picking up a 4" Viper as a range gun, but I'm a little hesitant because of what I've heard (and seen) with Colt's historic quality standards. Have you heard of any issues/had any unhappy customers with the new snake guns? There have been a couple of threads here, I haven't gotten one in to look at, I'm an impulse buy seller for the most part. I did recently get a Colt .38 Super 1911 and it promptly sold b/c it was pretty, it was Colt, and in .38 Super. I don't usually put twice my normal capital in that gun, but I couldn't get the cheap Philippine .38 Supers for that weekend. I tried 4x Charters as a slight step up from Rock Island & Taurus, and Charter isn't. Of 4 guns, I had to send half back for repair. Minor things, but the guns weren't salable out of the box. Okay, thanks, I will look for those threads in the Handgun, Revolver, and Colt forums. I've looked at the Charter Arms and Taurus higher end models (Professional and Executive Grade), but I'm not really interested in carrying a revolver and those seem to be very carry oriented. Though I have to admit the 2/3 price points are very appealing. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: What about playing with the .32 S&W? The little "popper" has been used to control garden pests, among other uses. About 10 years ago, I listened to the story of a man whose father used the little 88-grain RNL in his pigsty to slaughter 300-pound hogs by placing the muzzle of a little .32 S&W revolver at the base of the hog's skull. One pull of its single-action trigger, and it was "lights out". Cut the hog's throat, bleed it out, and complete the butchering process. Voila! Pork products. I have not played with the .32s&w yet. Have not found any locally, and I don’t have the reloading stuff for that yet. But I have fired .32ACP in it, and it’s like a really loud bb pistol. Zero recoil. It was kinda giggly fun |
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Originally Posted By bullsi191145: I have not played with the .32s&w yet. Have not found any locally, and I don’t have the reloading stuff for that yet. But I have fired .32ACP in it, and it’s like a really loud bb pistol. Zero recoil. It was kinda giggly fun The only problem with the .32 ACP is that it is a "semi-rimmed" cartridge and doesn't properly headspace on the "semi" of the rim. (The 'accuracy' is all over the place.) The .32 S&W has a long leade and tends to foul the chambers. This can, however, be scrubbed away. The .32 S&W can be used for killing moles and other pesky varmints at a range of 15-20 feet. |
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Originally Posted By CaptainO: The only problem with the .32 ACP is that it is a "semi-rimmed" cartridge and doesn't properly headspace on the "semi" of the rim. (The 'accuracy' is all over the place.) The .32 S&W has a long leade and tends to foul the chambers. This can, however, be scrubbed away. The .32 S&W can be used for killing moles and other pesky varmints at a range of 15-20 feet. Yeah, I would not use the ACP for anything serious. But it makes you giggle when shooting it. It’s like a really loud air pistol. Zero recoil |
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