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12/8/2024 10:11:00 AM EDT
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https://magpul.com/firearm-accessories/grips/ruger-rxm.html

The have an empty page saved for the grips.  Will see if I can find the leaked pics

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12/8/2024 11:24:58 AM EDT
[#1]
Just what the world needs, another Glock 19 clone.......
12/8/2024 11:27:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Yeah I think I’ll pass on this one.

Not really into the FCU or Glock clone stuff.
12/8/2024 11:47:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Fucking dumb.
12/8/2024 12:25:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bankfraudguy][Edited] [#4]
Yawn.    Im sure they made a calculated business decision and expect to make money on it and good for them.   But I’d rather they make more No.1 international variants.
12/10/2024 10:49:18 AM EDT
[#5]
HARD pass.
12/10/2024 11:19:27 AM EDT
[#6]
Needs a factory folding brace chassis option.
12/10/2024 11:22:14 AM EDT
[#7]
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This would make me a buyer, x2.

Otherwise its, a meh from me.
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12/10/2024 11:38:00 AM EDT
[#8]
There is nothing wrong with a well done Glock clone, but also nothing really exciting either.

Modular might allow a grip module with a regular grip angle that takes P320 mags.

A well executed manual safety option would be interesting, and set it apart from every other Glock clone.
12/10/2024 12:24:06 PM EDT
[#9]
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Interesting.  Can Ruger save enough by casting the slide to beat PSA Dagger pricing?  A Glock clone that can use any mag by swapping the grip frame would be interesting for the right price.

This explains why they're discontinuing the American, which was a fairly well thought out pistol that flopped.
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12/10/2024 12:41:55 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
Just what the world needs, another Glock 19 clone.......
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I look at it more as more pressure on Glock to lower their prices on their products. Ruger has brand reputation in the industry, and as long as they don't use the number 14 in the product name ......
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12/10/2024 12:42:40 PM EDT
[#11]
I wonder if Ruger will still blue the slide and small parts?

That’s all the world needs is a Glock that rusts.
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12/11/2024 1:40:39 AM EDT
[#12]
Depending on its level of Gen 3 Glock parts compatibility, it could be worth while.
12/11/2024 2:02:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Macumazahn][Edited] [#13]
If it is modular, and compatible with Glock 19 gen 3 stuff, it should be a hit, or at least fit well into the ecosystem.  Sig already has the lions share with the p365 and 320 less so.

I'd love to see the option for an manual thumb safety build into the FCU, as it is done in the p365.
12/11/2024 2:09:15 AM EDT
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12/11/2024 2:55:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NoDakWolfPack:  Depending on its level of Gen 3 Glock parts compatibility, it could be worth while.
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If it's got a removable FCU, I'm gonna guess only the slide & magwell will be Gen 3 compatible.  Would be happy to be wrong.
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12/11/2024 6:35:16 AM EDT
[#16]
Why…?

Why buy, trust, carry, shoot a Glock that isn’t made by Glock..?

I’ve never seen one that is better than original. Some equal maybe but most less than to one degree or another.

It’s like the Magpul Glock mags… save $2 and get a mag that is not as reliable. Don’t get it.
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12/11/2024 7:17:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


If it's got a removable FCU, I'm gonna guess only the slide & magwell will be Gen 3 compatible.  Would be happy to be wrong.
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The trigger, connector, slide release, mag release, springs, all the slide parts, and the mags will be compatible with Glock 19 gen 3 stuff. Pretty much the only thing that's not standard Glock is the locking block.
12/11/2024 7:37:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#18]
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Originally Posted By MONGO45:
Why…?

Why buy, trust, carry, shoot a Glock that isn’t made by Glock..?

I’ve never seen one that is better than original. Some equal maybe but most less than to one degree or another.

It’s like the Magpul Glock mags… save $2 and get a mag that is not as reliable. Don’t get it.
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Modularity. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean anything yet since different length/color/shape grip modules aren't available yet.

Price is supposed to be in the at or slightly under $400 so that's going to be a pretty good motivator right there.

Aside from that, the gun doesn't have the finger grooves or arched back strap that lots of people don't like. It also has a slightly extended beavertail to help prevent side bite. And then the mag well area is flared somewhat like what Glock is doing with Gen 5 stuff.

The slide is optic ready and is drilled to direct accept several different foot prints. Aaron Cowan will need to do some drop tests before we really know what Ruger's got going on here but it isn't like the MOS is a great mounting option. Even Glock admits that.

Taller (metal) sights come standard. They're a good size and should work with most optics yet aren't so tall they look ridiculous and will work fine without an optic. The tritium front is a nice touch.

Gen 3 parts are easy to come by so even if Ruger or Magpul doesn't immediately support the gun there shouldn't be too much difficulty putting in a Timney trigger, etc.

Will it be "better" than a Gen 3 Glock 19? It is pretty hard to quantify what that means. But if this new gun is reliable and durable and costs $100 less, it certainly won't be "worse."
12/11/2024 7:41:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Miami_JBT][Edited] [#19]


Article is live

https://www.recoilweb.com/ruger-magpul-rxm-review-186623.html



12/11/2024 7:50:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#20]
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I'm sure Ruger and/or Magpul are waiting to gauge consumer response before offering other configurations but they could have at least offered a couple different grip color options at launch.

The gray color indicates that this is going to be marketed as a commercial/civilian product and is not something that will be marketed for department or LE sales. At least not right away.

Stuff that's kind of a head scratcher. Why go with the gen 1-3 mag release? The gen 4 is reversible and would probably be preferred by most potential customers. Also why use the Glock spec groove for lights? 1913 would have been a better choice.

I'm not sure about the tiny optic pin / recoil bosses. They don't look very robust. One point to consider also is that the Holosun K optics need the thin little adapter plate to work. The recoil pins are a little too big to fit the female recesses in the bottom of these optics. That's probably not a big deal.
12/11/2024 8:01:05 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:


I'm sure Ruger and/or Magpul are waiting to gauge consumer response before offering other configurations but they could have at least offered a couple different grip color options at launch.

The gray color indicates that this is going to be marketed as a commercial/civilian product and is not something that will be marketed for department or LE sales. At least not right away.

Stuff that's kind of a head scratcher. Why go with the gen 1-3 mag release? The gen 4 is reversible and would probably be preferred by most potential customers. Also why use the Glock spec groove for lights? 1913 would have been a better choice.

I'm not sure about the tiny optic pin / recoil bosses. They don't look very robust.
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Parts compatibility is why. The article states it is 90% compatible with Gen 3 parts. As for Ruger doing LE sales with handguns, they've pretty much stopped that with the P series. The last gun that was adopted was the P345 and that was by Grantham PD in NH due to Mossad Ayoob. Other than that, a number of older P series guns saw some police service with larger agencies.

But the SR series and American series were absolute flops for LE. No one touched them. And the American series was even a flop on the civilian market.


12/11/2024 8:07:04 AM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Parts compatibility is why. The article states it is 90% compatible with Gen 3 parts. As for Ruger doing LE sales with handguns, they've pretty much stopped that with the P series. The last gun that was adopted was the P345 and that was by Grantham PD in NH due to Mossad Ayoob. Other than that, a number of older P series guns saw some police service with larger agencies.

But the SR series and American series were absolute flops for LE. No one touched them. And the American series was even a flop on the civilian market.


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Yes. Ruger has struggled to find a home with LE for quite awhile. Maybe this gun will change that although a gen 5 sort of gun would be more appealing to that market.

Again, I'm not sure why they did a gen 3 mag catch. If 90% of the gun is parts compatible would anyone care if that dropped to 89%? If nothing else it would help 5% of the population with reloads.

The glock size slot is probably just an oversight. But somebody should have caught that before the frames went into full production.
12/11/2024 8:19:17 AM EDT
[#23]
Ruger RXM: A Game-Changing Collaboration with Magpul
12/11/2024 9:00:19 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:


Yes. Ruger has struggled to find a home with LE for quite awhile. Maybe this gun will change that although a gen 5 sort of gun would be more appealing to that market.

Again, I'm not sure why they did a gen 3 mag catch. If 90% of the gun is parts compatible would anyone care if that dropped to 89%? If nothing else it would help 5% of the population with reloads.

The glock size slot is probably just an oversight. But somebody should have caught that before the frames went into full production.
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Ruger's heyday for LE sales was with the Security/Service/Speed series of revolvers and the Mini-14. Surez the P series has some success, but nothing like the wheel guns. The GP100 saw service too, but by then it was pretty much being eclipsed by the wonder nine revolution happening.
12/11/2024 9:01:37 AM EDT
[#25]
Officially announced

https://ruger.com/products/rxm/models.html
12/11/2024 9:04:18 AM EDT
[#26]
I'm going to pass. But hey, good for Ruger. Hopefully they have better success with this than with the American series.
12/11/2024 9:17:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Ruger & Magpul are Making a Glock Clone? The Ruger RXM
12/11/2024 9:22:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Slingblade2006][Edited] [#28]
LGS has them in stock for 399.00.   Vance Outdoors Link  They are offering try before you buy on Dec 14.   Anyone local to central Ohio might be interested.  
NEW: RXM Ruger & Magpul 9mm // Specs Overview & Range Time
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12/11/2024 9:53:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#29]
Magpul video on Instagram



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDcGAlxxUKS/?igsh=eGp5dnZ6ZWQzc3Rw
12/11/2024 9:53:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jack_Rackham][Edited] [#30]
Ruger RXM

Where the .40 and .357 at?
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12/11/2024 9:56:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Grips for sale here. Limited options at this point

https://shopruger.com/Grip-Frames/products/1543/
12/11/2024 9:56:49 AM EDT
[#32]
At least Magpul kept Ruger from making it super ugly like they tend to do.

Ruger is just a little above Kel-Tec with their weird designs.

12/11/2024 10:16:57 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By sgtlmj:
At least Magpul kept Ruger from making it super ugly like they tend to do.

Ruger is just a little above Kel-Tec with their weird designs.

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I think that pistol was Ruger dabbling in the sort of Glock copy market. Almost like they had the idea to do it but just didn't want to fully admit it.
12/11/2024 10:17:19 AM EDT
[#34]
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Ruger RXM

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I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.
12/11/2024 10:27:00 AM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:
Ruger RXM

Where the .40 and .357 at?
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.


Not unless Magpul starts making mags in other calibers.

With that said, there should be no reason a G23 slide assembly couldn't be used. And it looks like the ejector is a standard Glock part and could be swapped it needed.
12/11/2024 10:40:19 AM EDT
[#36]
I actually think it's kinda cool.
12/11/2024 10:55:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#37]
POLICE1 review

Maritime spring cups from the factory? Ruger has already beaten Glock!
12/11/2024 10:55:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jack_Rackham][Edited] [#38]
Frames for $39.95

and here:

Frames
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12/11/2024 11:37:19 AM EDT
[#39]
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12/11/2024 11:43:43 AM EDT
[#40]
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Yes and no. The G19 itself as a platform isn't very exciting but the gun should compete well against the Dagger and other budget Glocks. And the modular aspect should make getting whatever boutique texture applied a breeze.
12/11/2024 12:37:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Didn't expect much, still kinda disappointed.

Maybe if they sell the fcu standalone I'd be interested, and maybe if they produce a frame with is Gen 4 mag release compatible. But otherwise, why not just go with a dagger?
12/11/2024 12:44:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mbinky][Edited] [#42]
The optic mounting system is interesting.  Like the Echelon.  Wonder if this is the future since it doesn’t appear there will ever be an “industry standard” pattern.

When I saw the leaked pics I was “meh” but the more I see I kinda like it.  I ran across a pic of one with an OD green frame and it was sharp.

12/11/2024 12:52:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher][Edited] [#43]
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:  Ruger RXM

Where the .40 and .357 at?
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.




Designed to accept commonly available Glock-pattern full size magazines.


Miami, I'll bet you a .45 ACP Glock mag on that - say by the end of 2026?
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12/11/2024 1:13:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
The optic mounting system is interesting.  Like the Echelon.  Wonder if this is the future since it doesn’t appear there will ever be an “industry standard” pattern.

When I saw the leaked pics I was “meh” but the more I see I kinda like it.  I ran across a pic of one with an OD green frame and it was sharp.

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There are three standards now for two screws mounting. RMR, DPP and RMSc.

Clamp-style is the ACRO.

The breakthrough will come when someone makes a version that will accept all these without any kind of adapter plate.
12/11/2024 1:17:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: King_Mud][Edited] [#45]
GSSF coupons get you a real Glock for the same price outside the optics cut (which seems like a good idea to be fair) and I really don't care about modular designs at all.

No thanks.
12/11/2024 1:23:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson][Edited] [#46]
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
GSSF coupons get you a real Glock for the same price outside the optics cut (which seems like a good idea to be fair) and I really don't care about modular designs at all.

No thanks.
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Yep. Hardcore Glock fans will see this as a cheap knockoff no matter how well it might be executed.

What's cool about modularity is you can use it or not. There's no obligation to change stuff if you don't want to.
12/11/2024 1:32:08 PM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


https://ruger.com/productImages/19309/detail/1.jpg



Miami, I'll bet you a .45 ACP Glock mag on that - say by the end of 2026?
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:  Ruger RXM

Where the .40 and .357 at?
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.


https://ruger.com/productImages/19309/detail/1.jpg

Designed to accept commonly available Glock-pattern full size magazines.


Miami, I'll bet you a .45 ACP Glock mag on that - say by the end of 2026?
It is a size issue.

SIG had a similar issue with their FCU. The .45 ACP FCU could work with 9mm (to a degree), but the 9mm FCU wouldn't work with .45 ACP.

Ruger would have to make a specific FCU chassis to fit .45 ACP and I don't see them doing it since .45 ACP is dropping in popularity.
12/11/2024 1:54:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:


It is a size issue.

SIG had a similar issue with their FCU. The .45 ACP FCU could work with 9mm (to a degree), but the 9mm FCU wouldn't work with .45 ACP.

Ruger would have to make a specific FCU chassis to fit .45 ACP and I don't see them doing it since .45 ACP is dropping in popularity.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham:  Ruger RXM

Where the .40 and .357 at?
I doubt that'll happen. Heck, I doubt we'll see .45 ACP.


https://ruger.com/productImages/19309/detail/1.jpg

Designed to accept commonly available Glock-pattern full size magazines.


Miami, I'll bet you a .45 ACP Glock mag on that - say by the end of 2026?


It is a size issue.

SIG had a similar issue with their FCU. The .45 ACP FCU could work with 9mm (to a degree), but the 9mm FCU wouldn't work with .45 ACP.

Ruger would have to make a specific FCU chassis to fit .45 ACP and I don't see them doing it since .45 ACP is dropping in popularity.


The size issue was w/ SIG's 320 FCU, not their 250.

Ruger would have to make a specific FCU for .45 ACP & 10x23mm Norma - which is gaining in popularity.  And they already have the carbine that takes Glock mags in 10mm & .45.

I would be sad to send you a .45 ACP Glock mag in January 2027, but you would be delighted to send me one anytime in the next two years.
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12/11/2024 2:06:34 PM EDT
[#49]
One thing about this platform is the ability to change grip frames. Just for the modification/stippling crowd. That way if you screw one up or just like different ones, $39 a pop for a new lower grip to modify does sound like fun.  And these should be easy to make on a 3D printer.

I would use Glock factory mags IMHO.  

12/11/2024 5:12:07 PM EDT
[#50]
I like it. I'll give it some time to be out on the market and pick one up on GB for cheap. If they become very cheap, they'd make excellent glovebox guns.
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