Posted: 5/27/2024 6:59:12 AM EDT
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This thing has me stumped and it looks like I have a lemon. I went through about 600 CCI Blazer without any issues split between two sessions. It was cleaned and lubricated after each. I recently had it out and experienced several failures to feed with each mag. To try and resolve the issue... - I was careful to load the mags properly. - I cleaned the magazines. - I throughly cleaned the slide assembly. - I replaced the recoil spring assembly. - I tried a spare barrel. - I tried new magazines. - I tried CCI Mini-Mags.  
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I would polish the chamber. I use Flitz on a barrel mop attached to a short cleaning rod spun by a hand drill. You can also buzz the chamber with a brass brush soaked in oil spun by a hand drill. Next I’d try different ammo like plated CCI Mini Mag HP, CCI AR tactical or Aguila Super Extra plated High Velocity. I’d also check the breach face for gunk and remove and inspect the extractor and spring. The breach face and bottom of the slide has to push the top cartridge out of the magazine. Ensure the magazine is not getting hit by the under side of the slide when it pushes the cartridge out of the magazine. I’d inspect the magazine in the frame to make sure the mag is not loose in the well where shells aren’t pushed out properly. Look for wear areas to see if the surfaces are rubbing together where there should be clearance between the slide and mag. If the breach face is rough it can inhibit the round getting chambered in the feed cycle. Inspect your optic to make sure it isn’t loose or hitting or obstructing the slide. As a last resort I might remove the RDS to see if that affects reliability. Look for burrs, excess polymer or anything that might create drag on the slide. Even the best 22 rimfire ammo can go good functioning to constant malfunctions out of the same box. The quality control lapses with rimfire ammo is pretty common. I’ve had very few issues over the years with CCI but I bought a bulk pack of CCI Blazers during the pandemic which was sub par quality for CCI. Rimfire semi auto handguns have a very narrow window where they function reliably. Change in temperature when shooting can affect pressures which relates to timing of the cycling of a semi auto. Anything that zaps the momentum of the slide can affect reliability. |
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Originally Posted By VASCAR2: I would polish the chamber. I use Flitz on a barrel mop attached to a short cleaning rod spun by a hand drill. You can also buzz the chamber with a brass brush soaked in oil spun by a hand drill. Next I’d try different ammo like plated CCI Mini Mags, CCI AR tactical or Aguila Super Extra plated High Velocity. Even the best 22 rimfire ammo from good functioning to constant malfunctions out of the same box. The quality control lapses with rimfire ammo is pretty common. I’ve had very issues over the years with CCI but I bought a bulk pack of CCI Blazers during the pandemic which was sub par for CCI. Rimfire semi auto handguns have a very narrow window where they function reliably. Change in temperature when shooting can affect pressures which relates to timing of the cycling of a semi auto. As stated above, I tried Mini-Mags, and a different barrel. |
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Originally Posted By VASCAR2: I saw that after I hit post so I added a few things to look at. I hope you can sort it out. I hate sending guns back to the manufacturer. I reached out to Davidson's...I'll let them sort it out. I included the extractor when I cleaned the slide ass'y. CCI Blazer is what I have always used in this pistol and other firearms. It's good quality .22 LR. What's bewildering is that it suddenly stopped functioning reliably. The RDS is mounted to the fixed barrel on this model - only the slide reciprocates. |
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Yeah, send it back. My regular tx22 runs great. Even with a dovetail mounted optic. My last batch of blazer had more failures than previous batches. I just get cci standard and minimag now. But I doubt that is the cause of the issue. |
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>>I was looking to grab one of these<< I had one last year for all of one day. The barrel was so crappy I took it back for a loss. I've since bought a TX-22 Compact as well as the Standard. Like most out there, the Compact has run like a champ. The Standard now sports a Lakeline compensated slide and barrel as well as a TK flatty trigger, and also runs like a champ. You might want to look at the new TX-22 TORO rather than the Competition. Of course, that's just my two cents worth. |
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Originally Posted By RUT: >>I was looking to grab one of these<< I had one last year for all of one day. The barrel was so crappy I took it back for a loss. I've since bought a TX-22 Compact as well as the Standard. Like most out there, the Compact has run like a champ. The Standard now sports a Lakeline compensated slide and barrel as well as a TK flatty trigger, and also runs like a champ. You might want to look at the new TX-22 TORO rather than the Competition. Of course, that's just my two cents worth. I'm not sold on the Toro yet. I've got 2 of them..1 works ok......maybe 1 malfunction every 100 rounds. The other does exactly what OP's competition model does a couple times per mag. My compact runs like a top, but the threads are non concentric. I've had a few bullets graze the endcap off my can. I'm waiting on a new barrel for it. My competition feeds everything and is insanely accurate. Out of 4 guns, 2 are going to have to go back. Not a good look. |
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After approximately 350 rounds of CCI Blazer I had: - One FTF with the first mag and stock barrel. - One random FTF today with the stock barrel. - Two FTFs with the RDS mounted spare barrel. I used a firm grip on the pistol, similar to what I would use for a centerfire pistol. This performance is considerably better that what I experienced with the first pistol. I'm pretty much convinced that the FTFs are due to the frame flexing during recoil with the TX22 Competition models. In my mind, that combined with the blowback operation supports my conclusion. |
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Sorry to hear about your trouble OP. I doubt it's a design issue. I've shot at least 5K through mine and know other guys who have them and are real happy. Maybe some of the newer ones are having more issues. I bought a compact model more recently, and the barrel is basically pie plate accuracy at 25 yards. |
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Originally Posted By HomeAtLast: CCI Blazer is what I have always used in this pistol and other firearms. It's good quality .22 LR. Interesting because in my experience it's crap. Had it completely lead up a barrel and made it a smooth bore after maybe 300rds. Gave away the rest and haven't tried it again since. I've had better luck with Remington Golden Bullets and that's saying something! lol OP, I'd give your gun a really good scrubbing and make sure there is no built up lead in the chamber (and clean the mags too) and then try a different round. I've had nothing but good luck with CCI Standard Velocity and Federal Automatch has been almost as good. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: Interesting because in my experience it's crap. Had it completely lead up a barrel and made it a smooth bore after maybe 300rds. Gave away the rest and haven't tried it again since. I've had better luck with Remington Golden Bullets and that's saying something! lol OP, I'd give your gun a really good scrubbing and make sure there is no built up lead in the chamber (and clean the mags too) and then try a different round. I've had nothing but good luck with CCI Standard Velocity and Federal Automatch has been almost as good. Originally Posted By airgunner: Originally Posted By HomeAtLast: CCI Blazer is what I have always used in this pistol and other firearms. It's good quality .22 LR. Interesting because in my experience it's crap. Had it completely lead up a barrel and made it a smooth bore after maybe 300rds. Gave away the rest and haven't tried it again since. I've had better luck with Remington Golden Bullets and that's saying something! lol OP, I'd give your gun a really good scrubbing and make sure there is no built up lead in the chamber (and clean the mags too) and then try a different round. I've had nothing but good luck with CCI Standard Velocity and Federal Automatch has been almost as good. I haven't had any leading issues in any firearms with CCI Blazer. Many thousands of rounds have been put down range. As stated, the problem with the first TX22 was not ammo related. |
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Originally Posted By HomeAtLast: Unsuppressed. The replacement TX22 seems fine I think the real issue is slide velocity. There’s more mass removed on the competition model vs the standard (non toro) model. I’ve read several reports of these failures on rimfire central and Taurus armed. It seems the slide is outrunning the magazine springs, leading to the bullet contacting the feed ramp too low, and the nose gets hung up on at the top of the chamber. The breech face then dents the wall of the cartridge.. Most people resolved their issues by shooting CCI standard velocity ammo and/or adding Tandemkross wingman extensions and springs to their mags. My mags from 2-3 years ago are great. My recent ones have been crap. You could also try an extra power recoil spring from Galloway and see if that resolves the few failures to feed with high velocity ammo. |
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I havent cleaned my tx22 with dovetail plate mounted red dot (507k) in probably 1000 rds. I wipe it down and lube it though. I will do a deep clean and lube soon cause it needs it. Im running Aguila HV 40g round nose currently AND Federal 45g supressor. Rarely any misfires. I did replace the barrel with a lakeline version due to bad keyholing when using a suppressor. I recently acquired a second 22lr supressor and it too would cause keyholing so I went ahead and got a new barrel. I am not sure its 100% fixed the issue but its 95% better. My P322 does not keyhole with the suppressors nor does my AR22. I still love the pistol. I was going to order a lakeline optic cut slide so I can remove the optic plate setup but I may see if the new slide is offered on their site. That is if it will work on my gen 1 model. I may but a Gen2 as well cause 22 pistols are great. |
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Originally Posted By molar: I think the real issue is slide velocity. There’s more mass removed on the competition model vs the standard (non toro) model. I’ve read several reports of these failures on rimfire central and Taurus armed. It seems the slide is outrunning the magazine springs, leading to the bullet contacting the feed ramp too low, and the nose gets hung up on at the top of the chamber. The breech face then dents the wall of the cartridge.. Most people resolved their issues by shooting CCI standard velocity ammo and/or adding Tandemkross wingman extensions and springs to their mags. My mags from 2-3 years ago are great. My recent ones have been crap. You could also try an extra power recoil spring from Galloway and see if that resolves the few failures to feed with high velocity ammo. Originally Posted By molar: Originally Posted By HomeAtLast: Unsuppressed. The replacement TX22 seems fine I think the real issue is slide velocity. There’s more mass removed on the competition model vs the standard (non toro) model. I’ve read several reports of these failures on rimfire central and Taurus armed. It seems the slide is outrunning the magazine springs, leading to the bullet contacting the feed ramp too low, and the nose gets hung up on at the top of the chamber. The breech face then dents the wall of the cartridge.. Most people resolved their issues by shooting CCI standard velocity ammo and/or adding Tandemkross wingman extensions and springs to their mags. My mags from 2-3 years ago are great. My recent ones have been crap. You could also try an extra power recoil spring from Galloway and see if that resolves the few failures to feed with high velocity ammo. Interesting. Thanks for the info |
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Update: The Galloway Precision 15lb guide rod assembly has solved the feeding problems I was having with H.V. .22LR ammunition. |
| I have a Taurus TX22 competition that had very similar failure to feeds. Tried everything Vascar2 suggested. Still continued to have FTF’s. So decided to send it back to Taurus. I called customer serviced, they created a service order, sent shipping label, sent it FedEx. About 2 weeks later got an email stating it was on the way back. I again called customer service to see what they did. CS stated they had “adjusted the feed ramp, and performed a function test with Federal Automatch. 48 rounds with zero malfunctions”. Got it back a few days later. After a close inspection, it appears they made 2 relief cuts to the feed ramp and flattened the feed ramp. I’m guessing maybe a .010-.015 cuts?? Took it to the range and put around 300 rounds through it and only one malfunction. It failed to strip a round. Racked it again and it went into battery and fired. Slow fire sighting in the optic, shooting a plate rack or just rapid fire it performed well. I’m satisfied it’s fixed. Time will tell. Hope to shoot a steel challenge before the end of the year to try it out more. |
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Originally Posted By M4G37: I have a Taurus TX22 competition that had very similar failure to feeds. Tried everything Vascar2 suggested. Still continued to have FTF’s. So decided to send it back to Taurus. I called customer serviced, they created a service order, sent shipping label, sent it FedEx. About 2 weeks later got an email stating it was on the way back. I again called customer service to see what they did. CS stated they had “adjusted the feed ramp, and performed a function test with Federal Automatch. 48 rounds with zero malfunctions”. Got it back a few days later. After a close inspection, it appears they made 2 relief cuts to the feed ramp and flattened the feed ramp. I’m guessing maybe a .010-.015 cuts?? Took it to the range and put around 300 rounds through it and only one malfunction. It failed to strip a round. Racked it again and it went into battery and fired. Slow fire sighting in the optic, shooting a plate rack or just rapid fire it performed well. I’m satisfied it’s fixed. Time will tell. Hope to shoot a steel challenge before the end of the year to try it out more. Can you post some pics of what they did that you described? |
