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12/8/2018 9:46:03 AM EDT


Test Gun: Delta Elite
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Speer 10mm 200gr Gold Dot.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 1028fps
Gel Temperature 77 degrees.

I finally picked up a box of this ammo when Target Sports had it in stock when I ordered a bunch of 9mm ammo. I got a five-shot average of 1028fps with a high of 1040 and a low 1014fps.



Round one in the bare gel had a velocity of 1042fps and penetrated to 16 inches. Recovered weight was 199.3 grains and expansion was .65 inches. Round two also penetrated to 16 inches. Recovered diameter was .66 inches and weight was 199.1 grains. Velocity was 1032fps.



In the heavy clothed gel, the first round's velocity was 1014fps and it penetrated to 18.25 inches. Recovered weight was 199.8 grains and its expansion was .65 inches. The final round penetrated to 17.5 inches and had a recovered weight of 199.6 grains and an expansion of .66 inches. The chronograph did not get a velocity reading.



http://www.general-cartridge.com/
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12/8/2018 10:07:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Thank you for posting your results.  I don't have a 10mm but would it be correct to assume that these are on milder side of things?  The velocities are not a whole lot higher than I would expect from .40 S&W although the bullet is 20 grains heavier.  Looks like it would be a good self defense load though against 2 legged threats.
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12/8/2018 10:12:53 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes, I think the velocity is a little on the low side.
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12/8/2018 10:56:40 AM EDT
[#3]
that is low velocity for sure
12/8/2018 11:07:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: spartacus2002][Edited] [#4]
Buffalo Bore Underwood XTP 200gr is 1250fps
Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back. -Heraclitus
12/8/2018 11:29:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Looks to be a good anti-personnel load for the 10mm. If I carried a G29, I'd probably get some. Certainly a "light" woods load also.

I'd personally rather have my G23 or G27 loaded with good 40 loads though.

Thank you again OP for great data.
12/9/2018 10:54:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the test.
12/9/2018 11:03:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, pretty slow for a 10mm. Kind of anemic like their 64 and 62 grain .223.
12/10/2018 2:48:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SEAN10MM:
Yes, pretty slow for a 10mm. Kind of anemic like their 64 and 62 grain .223.
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Yes, this is slow for 10mm. Definitely not Norma class ammo. BUT...that is likely because the bullet design isn't meant to be pushed that fast. That is why some of the Underwood Gold Dots loaded to real 10mm spec end up looking like meteorites in gel tests.

As for the Gold Dot .223 being "anemic"...

It is my agency's duty load (64gr) and I've seen its effectiveness out of 10.5" barrels on the street and I think it's just fine...
12/10/2018 12:55:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By the_professional:

Yes, this is slow for 10mm. Definitely not Norma class ammo. BUT...that is likely because the bullet design isn't meant to be pushed that fast. That is why some of the Underwood Gold Dots loaded to real 10mm spec end up looking like meteorites in gel tests.

As for the Gold Dot .223 being "anemic"...

It is my agency's duty load (64gr) and I've seen its effectiveness out of 10.5" barrels on the street and I think it's just fine...
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180 Gold dot on the left. 180 XTP on the right. Pushed by 10.3 gr bluedot. While the gold dot held together it really doesn’t like being pushed that fast.
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12/11/2018 6:05:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Buffalo Bore XTP 200gr is 1250fps
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Yep.

Buffalo Boar .40 S&W 200 grain rounds have the same velocity as this 10mm Speer load.
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.- Richard Dawkins
12/11/2018 6:21:29 PM EDT
[#11]
More good performance from a "reasonable" 10mm load.

Thanks for the info, 5!
12/17/2018 11:45:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Yep.

Buffalo Boar .40 S&W 200 grain rounds have the same velocity as this 10mm Speer load.
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Buffalo Bore XTP 200gr is 1250fps
Yep.

Buffalo Boar .40 S&W 200 grain rounds have the same velocity as this 10mm Speer load.
LOL @spartacus2002 @HoodyHoo21 that is not Buffalo Bore that is Underwood lol. They both offer nice hot loads though.

Yeah this is an interesting test, certainly a good performer for the FBI standards, okay expansion and penetration to 16+ inches. I like the load you linked to, Underwood 200gr XTP, shoots smoothly in my Glock 40.
12/18/2018 12:08:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Sorry, musta been high when I posted
Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back. -Heraclitus
12/18/2018 6:10:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kev10mm:
LOL @spartacus2002 @HoodyHoo21 that is not Buffalo Bore that is Underwood lol. They both offer nice hot loads though.

Yeah this is an interesting test, certainly a good performer for the FBI standards, okay expansion and penetration to 16+ inches. I like the load you linked to, Underwood 200gr XTP, shoots smoothly in my Glock 40.
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Originally Posted By kev10mm:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Buffalo Bore XTP 200gr is 1250fps
Yep.

Buffalo Boar .40 S&W 200 grain rounds have the same velocity as this 10mm Speer load.
LOL @spartacus2002 @HoodyHoo21 that is not Buffalo Bore that is Underwood lol. They both offer nice hot loads though.

Yeah this is an interesting test, certainly a good performer for the FBI standards, okay expansion and penetration to 16+ inches. I like the load you linked to, Underwood 200gr XTP, shoots smoothly in my Glock 40.
I wasn't referencing the 10mm load that Spartacus linked to, I was referencing the .40 S&W load that Buffalo Boar makes. Their .40 S&W load has the same velocity as the 10mm load in this test.

It's reasons like this that I bash 10mm so much. This Speer load has terminal ballistics on par with .40 S&W- which is true for most 10mm loads.
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.- Richard Dawkins
12/18/2018 6:16:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Anyone have gel tests of the .40 HST bullets pushed through a 10mm?
12/18/2018 6:34:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Anyone have gel tests of the .40 HST bullets pushed through a 10mm?
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10mm gel test: Federal 180 gr HST
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.- Richard Dawkins
12/18/2018 7:13:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrXoG4N7ySI
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Not bad at all.  I've got some that I think are loaded a bit hotter.  I need to chrono them.

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