Posted: 8/17/2018 7:13:07 PM EDT
Test Gun: Delta Elite Barrel length: 5 inches. Ammunition: Sellier & Bellot 10mm 180gr JHP. Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel. Distance: 10 feet. Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens. Five shot velocity average: 1061fps Gel Temperature: 73 degrees. I have been using S&B primers for some time now and they have always performed well for me. My experience with their ammo, on the other hand, has been limited to some military surplus stuff some time ago. When I came across a discussion on the 10mm forum about this 10mm JHP I became interested, and the price was just under $16 for a box of 50. Until recently no one had any in stock but I was finally able to get some from Target Sports USA. I got an average five-shot velocity of 1061fps, with a high of 1079fps and a low of 1048. This velocity was much lower than the advertised velocity of 1164fps. It’s not rare for the manufacturer to inflate their velocity numbers but others have obtained numbers closer to the manufacturers claim. I shot another five rounds a few days later and still came up with an average of 1058fps. I also shot another pistol with some known ammo and it’s numbers were right where they were supposed to be. 
I wasn’t able to use the chronograph so I don’t have any velocity numbers for the induvial shots. The first round in the bare gel penetrated to 14.75 inches and it expanded to.67 inches with a recovered weight of 175.6 grains. Round two penetrated to 12.25 inches, expanded to .68 inches and a weight of 176.2 grains. 
In the heavy clothed gel the first round penetrated to 16.25 inches, expanded to .64 inches and had a recovered weight of 178.1 grains. The second shot went 16 inches deep and also expanded to .64 inches and a recovered weight of 177.2 grains. 
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Those did very well, didn't they? Could it be the FBI was right all those years ago? I was thinking the same thing. |
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When I first looked, I zoomed in on the OP's initial photo and thought to myself that it looks poorly constructed. I was figuring partial jacket separation or that and some minor fragmentation. I gotta say, glad I was wrong after seeing the end results. I'm willing to bet that J&G will have it in bulk and not that bad of a price. May have to go get some to put away. |
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Originally Posted By GSL:
When I first looked, I zoomed in on the OP's initial photo and thought to myself that it looks poorly constructed. I was figuring partial jacket separation or that and some minor fragmentation. I gotta say, glad I was wrong after seeing the end results. I'm willing to bet that J&G will have it in bulk and not that bad of a price. May have to go get some to put away. |
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Those look good
I guess I will look for some myself I use the SB primers as well, they are 20 to 24 dollars per K at Cabelas ill stop there this week and see if they have that ammo. time to get more powder and primers |
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Originally Posted By 5pins:
When I first saw them I wasn't very optimistic either. Originally Posted By 5pins:
Originally Posted By GSL:
When I first looked, I zoomed in on the OP's initial photo and thought to myself that it looks poorly constructed. I was figuring partial jacket separation or that and some minor fragmentation. I gotta say, glad I was wrong after seeing the end results. I'm willing to bet that J&G will have it in bulk and not that bad of a price. May have to go get some to put away. |
RIP Grin! 10/09/2015
NorCal_LEO issued nickname: Tombstone
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NorCal_LEO issued nickname: Tombstone
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Maybe I missed it in the OP....but what happened to that one round, standing up on it's case head in the picture? Hollow point or bullet nose looks mangled. Do they all look like that or did it jam? |
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Those did very well, didn't they? Could it be the FBI was right all those years ago? 
An average velocity of 1,061 fps from a 5" barrel is on par with most .40 S&W defensive ammo. |
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Thanks for the review 5Pins. Since reading this, I bought a few boxes & have been using them in my Dan Wesson Bruin for the past 3 Bowling Pin Shoots I have been to. I typically use either 200gr Gold Dots, 180gr Sig V Crown, or 180gr Doubletap. The Sig & the Doubletap 180gr are moving close to full load 10mm. The Gold Dots are moving a little slower, but the weight helps clear Bowling Pins off the table (even when they are full of lead & heavy as dumbbells). Even though the S&B JHPs are moving slower, they have done a great job! It also doesn't hurt that they are 1/3 of the price of the other ammo I have been using. Thanks again for the review! |
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Originally Posted By Humbucking:
Thanks for the review 5Pins. Since reading this, I bought a few boxes & have been using them in my Dan Wesson Bruin for the past 3 Bowling Pin Shoots I have been to. I typically use either 200gr Gold Dots, 180gr Sig V Crown, or 180gr Doubletap. The Sig & the Doubletap 180gr are moving close to full load 10mm. The Gold Dots are moving a little slower, but the weight helps clear Bowling Pins off the table (even when they are full of lead & heavy as dumbbells). Even though the S&B JHPs are moving slower, they have done a great job! It also doesn't hurt that they are 1/3 of the price of the other ammo I have been using. Thanks again for the review! I'm a big bowling pin shooter myself and .40 S&W is quite popular here in my area for pins. |
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