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7/19/2026 11:58:39 AM EDT
I owned a 5” none railed TRP with black armory kote over ten years ago and I absolutely loved that gun. However, being younger with less funds I had to sell it….

I’m looking to acquire a new TRP now and am considering a newly built TRP or finding an older one like I had. Besides the new TRP stamping, or lack there of. Is one better than the other to go with?
7/19/2026 12:57:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: glock24][Edited] [#1]
IMO, if you're thinking 45 ACP, I would try and avoid the newer ramped barrel if possible.

Of course the video is now unavailable, but Hilton Yam did a 1000 round test with a Dan Wesson 45 and their new ramped barrel not too long ago.  Quite a bit of failures to feed.  Per Mr. Yam's explanation, a ramped barrel in 45ACP creates a different load angle for the cartridge as it travels from the magazine into the chamber. A different (steeper) angle than the original design with a two-piece ramp. And once a ramped barrel is installed, there's no going back because a part of the frame is physically removed. (so no, polishing doesn't equate)

Dan Wesson's motivation (and maybe Springfield too) is manufacturing efficiency.  If their 45s had ramped barrel just like their 9mms and 10mms, then interchangeability of parts and assembly would be faster and easier.
7/19/2026 1:12:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glock24:
IMO, if you're thinking 45 ACP, I would try and avoid the newer ramped barrel if possible.

Of course the video is now unavailable, but Hilton Yam did a 1000 round test with a Dan Wesson 45 and their new ramped barrel not too long ago.  Quite a bit of failures to feed.  Per Mr. Yam's explanation, a ramped barrel in 45ACP creates a different load angle for the cartridge as it travels from the magazine into the chamber. A different (steeper) angle than the original design with a two-piece ramp. And once a ramped barrel is installed, there's no going back because a part of the frame is physically removed. (so no, polishing doesn't equate)
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That's why there's a couple different types of ramped .45 barrels.

Springfield uses the Wilson/Nowlin ramp-style barrels in their .45s with zero issues.
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7/19/2026 1:13:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

That's why there's a couple different types of ramped .45 barrels.

Springfield uses the Wilson/Nowlin ramp-style barrels in their .45s with zero issues.
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Interesting. And what style does (did) Dan Wesson use?
7/19/2026 1:48:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glock24:
IMO, if you're thinking 45 ACP, I would try and avoid the newer ramped barrel if possible.

Of course the video is now unavailable, but Hilton Yam did a 1000 round test with a Dan Wesson 45 and their new ramped barrel not too long ago.  Quite a bit of failures to feed.  Per Mr. Yam's explanation, a ramped barrel in 45ACP creates a different load angle for the cartridge as it travels from the magazine into the chamber. A different (steeper) angle than the original design with a two-piece ramp. And once a ramped barrel is installed, there's no going back because a part of the frame is physically removed. (so no, polishing doesn't equate)

Dan Wesson's motivation (and maybe Springfield too) is manufacturing efficiency.  If their 45s had ramped barrel just like their 9mms and 10mms, then interchangeability of parts and assembly would be faster and easier.
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Thanks for the info.  I knew about DW from Hilton's video but did not know that SA was using ramped barrels on their steel framed .45s.
7/19/2026 2:02:37 PM EDT
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Interesting. And what style does (did) Dan Wesson use?
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Originally Posted By glock24:
Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

That's why there's a couple different types of ramped .45 barrels.

Springfield uses the Wilson/Nowlin ramp-style barrels in their .45s with zero issues.


Interesting. And what style does (did) Dan Wesson use?

Clark/Para style ramp.
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
7/19/2026 5:02:05 PM EDT
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I have 4 Springfield 1911s in .45 with ramped barrels; zero feed issues with the right magazines.   I was worried about it when I bought the first one, but SA got it right.
7/19/2026 8:10:48 PM EDT
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Please say more about the "right" magazines.

Thanks
7/19/2026 8:18:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sparky315:
I have 4 Springfield 1911s in .45 with ramped barrels; zero feed issues with the right magazines.   I was worried about it when I bought the first one, but SA got it right.
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I've had 7 and zero feed issues with ANY magazine.
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
7/19/2026 8:59:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glock24:
Please say more about the "right" magazines.

Thanks
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Cobramags
Wilson Combat #47 ETM

These are the only 1911 mags I buy.  had never had an issue using these mags in the following 1911’s:
2 Springfield TRP Operator full rail pistols
Springfield TRP
2 Colt Competition’s
Colt Classic
Colt Wiley Clapp gov model
2 Dan Wesson Specialist’s

If you are a vet, sign up at Cobramags and get 10% off.  They have holiday sales and you can buy their 8rd stainless mags for $25 each.
Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
7/20/2026 5:28:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glock24:
Please say more about the "right" magazines.

Thanks
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Wilson tube with a Tripp 7 round spring and follower kit.  Only thing that runs 100% in all of my various 1911s.
7/20/2026 7:47:50 PM EDT
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I'd find a CA roster OG rollmark model.

There are a ton of used ones for a good price out there too.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

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7/21/2026 4:49:42 AM EDT
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If you love the non-railed TRP, Springfield still makes old style TRP as California compliant models, available everywhere online. You don't need to be in California to buy one new.

https://www.wikiarms.com/guns?q=pc9108lca&sortField=price&sortDirection=asc

7/21/2026 8:19:47 PM EDT
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I have 3 of the older production TRPs 2 non railed and a railed version, they will never leave my possession, I purchased the 2nd non railed one because I found a deal on the used market I couldn’t pass up, no feed issues for me, no experience with the current models they are putting out.
7/22/2026 1:55:28 AM EDT
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Second/thirding the idea of seeking out a CA compliant model.
That said the current TRPs do have a few things going for them. Slide top serrations, ledged rear sight, more aggresive VZ grips than earlier generations.
7/23/2026 9:09:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zodtgr8:
Second/thirding the idea of seeking out a CA compliant model.
That said the current TRPs do have a few things going for them. Slide top serrations, ledged rear sight, more aggresive VZ grips than earlier generations.
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I’d rather have the old rollmarks vs top serrations.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
7/23/2026 9:31:09 PM EDT
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No experience with the new ones but I highly recommend buying an older TRP

I own several custom and semi custom 1911s and the TRP is a work horse.

It’s won me several 1911 competitions and is an all around accurate and reliable blaster.

A few drops of oil and they will go a couple thousand rounds of training between cleanings.

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8/17/2026 10:43:22 AM EDT
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My buddy's a dealer, shoots a ton of matches, league, etc. I let him borrow my 2019mfg TRP Operator, half rail, Armory Kote, 100% factory set up gun, Bull bbl, flgr, 45acp.  He loves shooting it, it's super slick from high round count.  He bought a brand new TRP hoping for a vestige of similarity between the two.  Let's just say he wants to trade me guns😂
8/17/2026 11:52:24 AM EDT
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My new 45 Emissary has a ramped barrel and it's been 100%.  Full disclosure, I noticed before I ever shot it that the frame was proud of the ramp on both side by a few thousandths and I stoned it flat.  I runs great with ball, hollowpoints, whatever.
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