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1/21/2026 5:15:41 PM EDT
For an optic on a handgun, why put witness marks on the plate to slide screws if the optic doesn't need to be removed to change the battery? You're never going to see them.
Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers
1/21/2026 6:12:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I have not finished my first cup of coffee. So I not quite getting your question.

Having said that... witness marks on screw heads are to have a visual to see if the screws are coming loose.
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1/21/2026 6:40:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DasRonin:
I have not finished my first cup of coffee. So I not quite getting your question.

Having said that... witness marks on screw heads are to have a visual to see if the screws are coming loose.
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My question is why put them on the screws that secure the plate to the slide? They are under the optic so they can't be seen. If the screws come loose, you won't know. I get putting witness marks on the screws that secure the optic to the plate.
Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers
1/21/2026 10:07:26 PM EDT
[#3]
I get what OP is saying. The only reason I can think of, is if your zero starts going to shit and you've eliminated your optic as the source, you can pull your optic off and instantly know whether or not your plate is the problem. If I'm at that point I'm probably just redoing my whole setup.
1/22/2026 10:26:04 AM EDT
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Previous poster is correct.  If zero shifts, go through the whole setup.

Personally I don't bother with witness marks.  It something is off, I know it.  For pistols that get used a lot, I am the opinion that optic screws need to be proactively replaced every couple years.

I think witness marks are more useful to an armorer or gunsmith.  Shooter drops off pistol.  Shooter says pistol wont hit the side of a barn.  Armorer takes one look and knows its actually is the the arrow, not the Indian.
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1/29/2026 3:19:23 PM EDT
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It is a pretty goofy idea considering as you said, you'll never be able to see if they're actually getting loose anyway. But I guess if it ever comes down to taking the optic off for some reason it is nice to know if they're still solid or not.

1/29/2026 4:52:14 PM EDT
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In the words of the Frank's Red Hot lady..."I put that sh*t on everything".

MARK YOUR STUFF | Witness Marks - How and Why

Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers
1/29/2026 5:12:55 PM EDT
[#7]
You'll never see it. But also, does it cost anything to do it? I don't think I did on my last install. It probably doesn't matter.

2/1/2026 8:29:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bayou_Operator:
But I guess if it ever comes down to taking the optic off for some reason it is nice to know if they're still solid or not.

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Good point.
Make sure you tell guys that the 1911 is a pain in the ass - Larry Vickers

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