Posted: 3/2/2024 1:28:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Needs a dot, comp, and mag—er, cyclinder well. You’re pretty close. So quite obviously this is a Remington 1858 Model New Army black powder cap and ball percussion reproduction revolver, this particular one made by Pietta. It’s the 5.5” stainless steel model. At the same time I ordered the Taylor’s .45 Colt conversion cylinder for the gun cause I have exactly zero interest in black powder or percussion revolvers, but I do like the look. Per my prior revolver projects, this one won’t be an exact replica of any other custom revolver but will take inspiration from modified revolvers in pop culture, books, screen, and video games. Namely we’ll be throwing in elements from the Colt SAA “Ace in the Hole” revolver from The Expendables (terrible series), the Sandalwood guns from The Dark Tower which were, themselves, modified Rem 1858s, and of course a little touch of some Cyberpunk futurism.    It’s a good thing I was planning on ditching the front sight anyway, cause the dovetailed blade had already completely slipped out of the revolver in entirety by the time I got it out of the box yesterday. Other than that I’ve given the whole thing any inspection and it appears to be solid. The conversion cylinder fits and times well without any adjustment. It’s a solid hefty little blaster |
I went ahead and ordered up some Arizona Custom Grips imitation buffalo horn/dark ivory grips with floral scrollwork engraving. The darker grip color should go well with the stainless frame/barrel and the blued conversion cylinder, and I’ll appreciate having some grip texture to hold onto. https://www.ebay.com/itm/275720329341 |
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It would be VERY hard to make Dark Tower 1858s, since they also had swing out cylinders...my son wanted one after seeing the movie, so I showed him my New Model Army to prove what they really look like.
And there is nothing wrong with the Holy Black! 
Kid with afore mentioned New Model Army. 
Now, having said all that, quite interested to see what you come up with, will be most interesting! That SAA is the one Stallone carried SOB in Expendables? |
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Originally Posted By armoredman: It would be VERY hard to make Dark Tower 1858s, since they also had swing out cylinders...my son wanted one after seeing the movie, so I showed him my New Model Army to prove what they really look like. And there is nothing wrong with the Holy Black! Kid with afore mentioned New Model Army. https://i.imgur.com/wa0ONY8.jpg Now, having said all that, quite interested to see what you come up with, will be most interesting! That SAA is the one Stallone carried SOB in Expendables? So if you’re familiar with my previous revolver projects, I don’t really do clone builds. I’m more interested in “inspired by” kinds of projects. It will most definitely not be completely re-worked for DA and swing-out cylinders. The SAA I posted is Stallone’s SOB gun in the Expendables series. Like I said, terrible movies - cool gun. I’ll be borrowing the barrel porting for my build |
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: Yeah, I think you're going to need to shave down the sides of the barrels and get some scroll work on it to compliment those grips. Engraving may well be in the future for this gun, but planning to do a few more functional modifications to it first Next I need to find a short picatinny rail section that can be attached to the top strap after drilling and tapping |
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Is there enough top strap meat to direct mill a red dot vs pic rail? An aimpoint micro with the screws through the top strap would look awesome, imo. The pic rail mounts always look excessive to me. Tagged for what's to come. ETA or a custom saddle for the top strap for an RMR or whatnot, anything to get away from a pic rail. |
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Originally Posted By Stonia: Is there enough top strap meat to direct mill a red dot vs pic rail? An aimpoint micro with the screws through the top strap would look awesome, imo. The pic rail mounts always look excessive to me. Tagged for what's to come. ETA or a custom saddle for the top strap for an RMR or whatnot, anything to get away from a pic rail. So the 1858 actually won’t be getting a red dot, per se: It will be mounted to the top strap in the same place as an optic though |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: But we want more greebles! Definitely more greebles, but yeah, not really digging the light so far. Not sure what it is about it; it still kinda fits with your other projects but something about it. Maybe just the idea of losing the sights? I think something like an old Weaver Qwik Point R-1 if you could find one, or the first style Aimpoints? Not sure yet.... definitely not passing judgement (engraving will get you extra points though ), I'll wait for the finished project as usual.  Looks like you stripped the finish too- charcoal bluing maybe or you going for the worn, cavalry look? |
No no, that’s not a light - I mean it is but that’s just a bonus - that is the sight:  As far as more greebles, I’ve been thinking about possibly asking my gunsmith to use the included pressure pad for the laser and either integrate into or replace entirely one of the grip panels. That’d give a little more purpose-built electronica feel to the blaster:   (Please excuse the dust and dirt, I live with four dogs and the hair gets everywhere…) I’ve also been thinking about getting a lanyard loop installed in the butt of the grip and adding some charms, a la the Sucker Punch 1911:  This is the finish that was on the gun as received, just standard stainless. I did opt for the blued conversion cylinder to give it a little more two-tone aesthetic since I knew I’d be getting some kind of black grips. As far as final finish, I have no specific thoughts as of now, but I’m open to suggestions! |
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Originally Posted By Radiolucent: Uberti makes a repro-ish Remington 1875 that is a gate loader but has the look of the 1858. I’ve seen them. As far as I understand they’re functionally/mechanically nearly identical to the SAA. I’ve thought about getting one, but I think my next build needs to be a legit SAA (clone) project |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: No no, that’s not a light - I mean it is but that’s just a bonus - that is the sight: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9126-3169454.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9131-3169456.jpg As far as more greebles, I’ve been thinking about possibly asking my gunsmith to use the included pressure pad for the laser and either integrate into or replace entirely one of the grip panels. That’d give a little more purpose-built electronica feel to the blaster: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9136-3169458.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9145-3169460.jpg (Please excuse the dust and dirt, I live with four dogs and the hair gets everywhere…) I’ve also been thinking about getting a lanyard loop installed in the butt of the grip and adding some charms, a la the Sucker Punch 1911: https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/yp_530a3849589a04.38370480/Sucker-Punch-Babydoll-Pistol-1.jpg This is the finish that was on the gun as received, just standard stainless. I did opt for the blued conversion cylinder to give it a little more two-tone aesthetic since I knew I’d be getting some kind of black grips. As far as final finish, I have no specific thoughts as of now, but I’m open to suggestions! Color case hardening of the cylinder. 
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Color case hardening of the cylinder. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: No no, that’s not a light - I mean it is but that’s just a bonus - that is the sight: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9126-3169454.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9131-3169456.jpg As far as more greebles, I’ve been thinking about possibly asking my gunsmith to use the included pressure pad for the laser and either integrate into or replace entirely one of the grip panels. That’d give a little more purpose-built electronica feel to the blaster: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9136-3169458.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9145-3169460.jpg (Please excuse the dust and dirt, I live with four dogs and the hair gets everywhere…) I’ve also been thinking about getting a lanyard loop installed in the butt of the grip and adding some charms, a la the Sucker Punch 1911: https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/yp_530a3849589a04.38370480/Sucker-Punch-Babydoll-Pistol-1.jpg This is the finish that was on the gun as received, just standard stainless. I did opt for the blued conversion cylinder to give it a little more two-tone aesthetic since I knew I’d be getting some kind of black grips. As far as final finish, I have no specific thoughts as of now, but I’m open to suggestions! Color case hardening of the cylinder. While I’m certainly not opposed, I have wondered if there’s something about the CCH process that makes it unacceptable for use on a cylinder, as I’ve never seen another revolver with a CCH cylinder - from anyone. All of the following have CCH frames but another finish on the cylinder, from Uberti, Pietta, Colt themselves, Turnbull, etc:      You see my point. Lots of CCH, none on the cylinder |
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Fair point, but the cylinder is already hardened, so color case hardening won't weaken it. FYI, Doug Turnbull has retired & turned the company over to his kids, and has another small venture. He was at the Dallas Safari Club convention this year - which will be held in Atlanta for the next 3 years. |
Death to quislings.
I’d love to get a gun worked on by Turnbull or Tyler Gun Works eventually, but for the immediate future the major custom gunsmithing funds are being set aside for the X-Five and Bruce Gray. I’ll be keeping all the revolver builds in perpetuity though, so there’s always a possibility of having more work done to any one of them at some point in the future. For now, integration of the laser, barrel porting, and possibly a lanyard loop/charm circle will be a decent start on the Acehole 
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: I’d love to get a gun worked on by Turnbull or Tyler Gun Works eventually, but for the immediate future the major custom gunsmithing funds are being set aside for the X-Five and Bruce Gray. I’ll be keeping all the revolver builds in perpetuity though, so there’s always a possibility of having more work done to any one of them at some point in the future. For now, integration of the laser, barrel porting, and possibly a lanyard loop/charm circle will be a decent start on the Acehole Then.... Rattlecan Rodesian baby poop camo? You can always change it later.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Then.... Rattlecan Rodesian baby poop camo? You can always change it later. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: I’d love to get a gun worked on by Turnbull or Tyler Gun Works eventually, but for the immediate future the major custom gunsmithing funds are being set aside for the X-Five and Bruce Gray. I’ll be keeping all the revolver builds in perpetuity though, so there’s always a possibility of having more work done to any one of them at some point in the future. For now, integration of the laser, barrel porting, and possibly a lanyard loop/charm circle will be a decent start on the Acehole Then.... Rattlecan Rodesian baby poop camo? You can always change it later. Honestly, potentially. I’m throwing around the idea of doing a more intentional apocalyptic wasteland aesthetic with this build, which would mean making it a bit more rough around the edges… |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Honestly, potentially. I’m throwing around the idea of doing a more intentional apocalyptic wasteland aesthetic with this build, which would mean making it a bit more rough around the edges… Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: I’d love to get a gun worked on by Turnbull or Tyler Gun Works eventually, but for the immediate future the major custom gunsmithing funds are being set aside for the X-Five and Bruce Gray. I’ll be keeping all the revolver builds in perpetuity though, so there’s always a possibility of having more work done to any one of them at some point in the future. For now, integration of the laser, barrel porting, and possibly a lanyard loop/charm circle will be a decent start on the Acehole Then.... Rattlecan Rodesian baby poop camo? You can always change it later. Honestly, potentially. I’m throwing around the idea of doing a more intentional apocalyptic wasteland aesthetic with this build, which would mean making it a bit more rough around the edges… You could do rattlecan on the cylinder, and then hydro dip a modern digital pattern, making it a depot level restored parts gun. Yet something else on the grips, maybe hand made wood or poorly printed 3-D w/ a design. Maybe Legos...
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My bad. It’ll go early this week
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Not really project related but I figured the people who like my builds would appreciate this - I stopped at a new gun store on the way home and they had something hanging on the wall: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9230-3183557.jpg Think I might've found my new local gun store  A joint dipped in Fentanyl, LSD, PCP and wrapped in Cohiba leaves? |
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Originally Posted By feudist: What causes the sort of fever dream that results in a cut down Krag with and Aimpoint and a tomahawk head? A joint dipped in Fentanyl, LSD, PCP and wrapped in Cohiba leaves? Originally Posted By feudist: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Not really project related but I figured the people who like my builds would appreciate this - I stopped at a new gun store on the way home and they had something hanging on the wall: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9230-3183557.jpg Think I might've found my new local gun store A joint dipped in Fentanyl, LSD, PCP and wrapped in Cohiba leaves? 
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Originally Posted By feudist: What causes the sort of fever dream that results in a cut down Krag with and Aimpoint and a tomahawk head? A joint dipped in Fentanyl, LSD, PCP and wrapped in Cohiba leaves? Who forgot the brass/stainless steel knuckles. |
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"Life is fucking hard. Either get used to taking a few lumps like the rest of us, or buy a fucking helmet and crawl into a corner somewhere." -Me
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Ultem? Semi-Translucent, high impact thermoplastic. It comes in various shades of amber, from light yellow to almost rootbeer. Lots of knife scales available, but i haven't seen any pistol or revolver grips. It can be 3D printed now, but I'm not sure how well it retains translucency. It would give the revolver a Bladerunner vibe 
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Originally Posted By TexCorriente: Semi-Translucent, high impact thermoplastic. It comes in various shades of amber, from light yellow to almost rootbeer. Lots of knife scales available, but i haven't seen any pistol or revolver grips. It can be 3D printed now, but I'm not sure how well it retains translucency. It would give the revolver a Bladerunner vibe https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276591/ultemscales-3185051.jpg Originally Posted By TexCorriente: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Ultem? Semi-Translucent, high impact thermoplastic. It comes in various shades of amber, from light yellow to almost rootbeer. Lots of knife scales available, but i haven't seen any pistol or revolver grips. It can be 3D printed now, but I'm not sure how well it retains translucency. It would give the revolver a Bladerunner vibe https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276591/ultemscales-3185051.jpg Ohh I see. I’ve been wanting to use some kind of colored transparent grips on one of these builds, but I was planning to save it for the Ruger Blackhawk/Reshawk I’ll eventually get. Not sure I’d be able to find any for a Remington 1858 |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Not really project related but I figured the people who like my builds would appreciate this - I stopped at a new gun store on the way home and they had something hanging on the wall: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/414849/IMG_9230-3183557.jpg Think I might've found my new local gun store that's awesome! Constructive criticism: I think it should be an RMR on there |