New Micro Dagger Frame/G43 slide (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/5/2024 11:40:18 AM EDT
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I figured I’d start my own thread and not clog up the other one. I got a new Micro Dagger complete frame yesterday from PSA. A few things I noticed when I first got it and as I was cleaning it. Fit and finish are very nicely done. Ergos feel good in the hand. Stippling seems slick until you grab it. Then it feels like it locks into the hand pretty well. The slide release seems to be sticking a bit. Upon further inspection it seems that the tab for the release is rubbing the frame. Also, when I first mounted the slide to the frame; if I pulled the slide allllll the way back, it would get stuck and hang there, unless I bumped it with my hand. I noticed a very small piece of plastic burr on the back left slide rail. I removed that AFTER I fired it, only cause I noticed it in the cleaning after firing. The trigger shoe feels good in my hands. However, there seems to be a bit of flex by the hinge. Not sure if this will interfere in anyway, or if it will cause the gun to go off, but I’m keeping an eye on that. As for ammo, I shot 10rds of Unlimited Ammos “Nukes”. It’s their version of hollow points. Followed with 50rds of FMJ ammo from the same company. The gun only had one malfunction to go fully into battery, I attribute that to the small plastic burr, once I removed that and hand cycled, the slide never hung up again. I bought this frame for $100 complete to see if I wanted another 43x. I love the Micro Dagger frame and trigger, but I need to run more ammo through it to see if it’s reliable or not. All and all I’m pretty happy, and would recommend the frame if you wanted a 43x or 48 style option |
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Attached File This was my issue before I removed the plastic burr. Notice the slide stop not catching. Once I removed that burr it cycled like normal |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: I figured I’d start my own thread and not clog up the other one. I got a new Micro Dagger complete frame yesterday from PSA. A few things I noticed when I first got it and as I was cleaning it. Fit and finish are very nicely done. Ergos feel good in the hand. Stippling seems slick until you grab it. Then it feels like it locks into the hand pretty well. The slide release seems to be sticking a bit. Upon further inspection it seems that the tab for the release is rubbing the frame. Also, when I first mounted the slide to the frame; if I pulled the slide allllll the way back, it would get stuck and hang there, unless I bumped it with my hand. I noticed a very small piece of plastic burr on the back left slide rail. I removed that AFTER I fired it, only cause I noticed it in the cleaning after firing. The trigger shoe feels good in my hands. However, there seems to be a bit of flex by the hinge. Not sure if this will interfere in anyway, or if it will cause the gun to go off, but I’m keeping an eye on that. As for ammo, I shot 10rds of Unlimited Ammos “Nukes”. It’s their version of hollow points. Followed with 50rds of FMJ ammo from the same company. The gun only had one malfunction to go fully into battery, I attribute that to the small plastic burr, once I removed that and hand cycled, the slide never hung up again. I bought this frame for $100 complete to see if I wanted another 43x. I love the Micro Dagger frame and trigger, but I need to run more ammo through it to see if it’s reliable or not. All and all I’m pretty happy, and would recommend the frame if you wanted a 43x or 48 style option Tagged. Have the same build with a 43X slide. Haven't shot it yet. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @palmettostatearmory - do y’all test fire just the frames? The Micro Dagger frame I received had a decent amount of carbon build up on it when I received it. I was just curious if y’all did or not We do test-fire each frame and slide sold individually. Thanks, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: We do test-fire each frame and slide sold individually. Thanks, Josiah Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @palmettostatearmory - do y’all test fire just the frames? The Micro Dagger frame I received had a decent amount of carbon build up on it when I received it. I was just curious if y’all did or not We do test-fire each frame and slide sold individually. Thanks, Josiah Thanks Josiah! I appreciate the reply. |
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I have a G43 slide on a Micro Dagger frame too. Fit was a little tight for first 8 rounds with a failure to feed. Eight more rounds tonight without a problem. I LIKE IT! The experiment continues.... I used the PSA 15 round mag for the first 8 rounds and Glock mag for 8 rounds tonight. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @nomad221 if you don’t mind let me know how yours runs. I still want to put more rounds through mine. Absolutely. I'm currently waiting on parts to arrive to replace the guts and trigger bar with slim OEM parts. Looks like there are three of us who have recently decided to build the same guns. Let's see how this pans out. |
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Originally Posted By ISEEYOU2: I have a G43 slide on a Micro Dagger frame too. Fit was a little tight for first 8 rounds with a failure to feed. Eight more rounds tonight without a problem. I LIKE IT! The experiment continues.... I used the PSA 15 round mag for the first 8 rounds and Glock mag for 8 rounds tonight. Sounds similar to my experience. I kind of wish I had bought one of the PSA Micro Dagger mags to try out. If all pans out, I’ll throw some more rounds down range this weekend. |
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Originally Posted By Keasbeynights: Picked up my micro dagger frame. Same issue with my 43 slide hanging up. Thanks for posting about it. Gonna look for that burr I wish I grabbed a pic before I removed it. Mine was on the back left slide rail, closest to the muzzle end. If that makes sense. |
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Attached File YES, I know this is the right side of the frame, but for illustrative purposes I’m posting this. So, where the arrow is pointing, on the slide rail itself, there was a bit of the plastic molding (the burr I speak of). So if those rails aren’t fully clean/clear, you might get the hang up issue. Hope that helps. |
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Mine had that burr. I removed it, but slide still sticking in full rearward position. May try swapping in my 43s guts to see if something is binding it up there. ETA After fiddling and comparing with my 43 frame, I've found that the bbl is contacting the locking block and binding, causing the slide to stick at full rearward travel. The bbl doesnt have any free play with the slide back, and pressing the muzzle end of the bbl downward unbinds it and the slide snaps forward. |
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An update on my slide issue on the micro dagger frame. It's the locking block. The PSA is not exactly the same size as the glock 43 block. I swapped in the G43 locking block, and slide/barrel no longer binds up when pulled fully to the rear. I'll be reaching out to PSA. Hopefully they can just send me a new block without me having to send my whole frame back. |
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Originally Posted By Keasbeynights: An update on my slide issue on the micro dagger frame. It's the locking block. The PSA is not exactly the same size as the glock 43 block. I swapped in the G43 locking block, and slide/barrel no longer binds up when pulled fully to the rear. I'll be reaching out to PSA. Hopefully they can just send me a new block without me having to send my whole frame back. Can you post pics of the differences between them ? |
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Originally Posted By Keasbeynights: An update on my slide issue on the micro dagger frame. It's the locking block. The PSA is not exactly the same size as the glock 43 block. I swapped in the G43 locking block, and slide/barrel no longer binds up when pulled fully to the rear. I'll be reaching out to PSA. Hopefully they can just send me a new block without me having to send my whole frame back. If you PM me your order number, I will have on of our pistol specialists reach out to you. Thanks, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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Originally Posted By nomad221: Absolutely. I'm currently waiting on parts to arrive to replace the guts and trigger bar with slim OEM parts. Looks like there are three of us who have recently decided to build the same guns. Let's see how this pans out. Originally Posted By nomad221: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @nomad221 if you don’t mind let me know how yours runs. I still want to put more rounds through mine. Absolutely. I'm currently waiting on parts to arrive to replace the guts and trigger bar with slim OEM parts. Looks like there are three of us who have recently decided to build the same guns. Let's see how this pans out. Installed all of the parts today after a polish. The problem I was having with my build is gone. Hopefully, I'll have some time to start breaking it in next weekend. |
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Update - ran 20hrs of the “nukes” I talked about, and about another 30rds of FMJ. (I forget the exact name, but it was Winchester training? And I think they were 147gr.) Sorry I forgot to snap pics of the ammo. Anyway, the 43slide/micro dagger frame ran fine through all the ammo, with one exception- I kept getting brass raining on my head. BUT it ate all the ammo, and locked back on last round. When I racked the slide with no mag and no ammo, the slide still hangs up when pulled all the way to the rear. It wasn’t as bad as when I first had it, but it does still hang up. As of right now, this is solely a range toy. Attached File |
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My "aftermarket" KM tactical 43 slide/upper has run great. For being a 43 Slide and barrel it works well, and accurate. I am also using Korean 10 round 43X mags which have also been reliable. I just grabbed the $99 complete lower, added the slide and it worked - some lubrication, that is it. I did file the slide a tiny bit so I could more easily depress the slide release when locked open - other than that its pretty much drop in. This is a cute little 9mm. |
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Just ran my 43 slide on a micro frame yesterday . I will say after reading this thread I did check the rails on my frame and found several burrs . After 30 min with a needle file they felt fine. Slapped the two halves together and took them with my single 10 round OEM glock mag to the local shooting spot. Very first round choked....it could have been a mag seating problem on my end. Everything after that ran. I used up some 115 fmj and around 25 rds of 147 jhps. The only problem was erratic ejection. Had several round fly straight back onto my ball cap ..hole in one on my shirt pocket. Any pointers on the ejector ? |
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I will say that the micro frame feels great in the hand! If it proves out to be reliable the slidw will stay there for sure. I noticed the frames are running like $60 right now...makes me think they are clearing out a batch that had rail burrs and ejector problems. PSA is good people...as long as they keep innovating ill keep supporting. |
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Originally Posted By Keasbeynights: Mine had that burr. I removed it, but slide still sticking in full rearward position. May try swapping in my 43s guts to see if something is binding it up there. ETA After fiddling and comparing with my 43 frame, I've found that the bbl is contacting the locking block and binding, causing the slide to stick at full rearward travel. The bbl doesnt have any free play with the slide back, and pressing the muzzle end of the bbl downward unbinds it and the slide snaps forward. I have this same issue, slide at full rearward position it just binds up. At this position the barrel is tight so I am assuming it's the locking block as well. Im running a c-1 slide on the dagger frame with a 43x barrel and recoil spring. I tried firing it to test it out and the slide just sticks at rearward position after each shot. I love the concept of this comped micro but I'm struggling to find a resolution to this issue. Anyone have luck solving this? |
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Originally Posted By bigjoe7757: I have this same issue, slide at full rearward position it just binds up. At this position the barrel is tight so I am assuming it's the locking block as well. Im running a c-1 slide on the dagger frame with a 43x barrel and recoil spring. I tried firing it to test it out and the slide just sticks at rearward position after each shot. I love the concept of this comped micro but I'm struggling to find a resolution to this issue. Anyone have luck solving this? If you would like us to bring it in and take a look at it, please send me a PM. Thanks, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: If you would like us to bring it in and take a look at it, please send me a PM. Thanks, Josiah fyi...the great thing about your employer is that they seem to actually care about making self defense an affordable proposition for Americans. Keep working on the micro ...Ill try another one in six months. If we can get these things running 100% I can see them becoming the best option for arming friends and family who may not be gun people. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm also contemplating getting a Dagger frame to upgrade my G43. Have these issues been resolved? And can I just swap out my factory Glock internals (trigger bits + locking block) into a stripped Dagger Micro frame? @spydercomonkey They still have some issues at least mine did. Yes all OEM parts will swap over which resolves almost all issues besides a break in period. |
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Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: @spydercomonkey They still have some issues at least mine did. Yes all OEM parts will swap over which resolves almost all issues besides a break in period. Originally Posted By SpankMonkey: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I'm also contemplating getting a Dagger frame to upgrade my G43. Have these issues been resolved? And can I just swap out my factory Glock internals (trigger bits + locking block) into a stripped Dagger Micro frame? @spydercomonkey They still have some issues at least mine did. Yes all OEM parts will swap over which resolves almost all issues besides a break in period. Thank you for the info. A bummer to hear reliability may be iffy, but encouraging it can use factory parts. Would that include the G43 locking block? |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Thank you for the info. A bummer to hear reliability may be iffy, but encouraging it can use factory parts. Would that include the G43 locking block? Not sure about the 43 block. Mine is a 43x/48 block. They should be the same but I traded off my G43 eight years ago, cant check. |
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I just purchased the SCT frame to make my G43 a G43X. Slide went on no problem. Loaded a few 147 gr HPs and no go they stovepiped. They would do the same in my G43. What is wrong here? I ordered some of the 124gr "Nikes" to see if they would feed. Round nose worked fine. I bought two Shield 15 round mags also and they are tight. there is a small gap at the bottom of the magwell with the Shield mags they look like they could go up a few millimeters. I really want the HPs to work in this setup. |
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I just purchased the SCT frame to make my G43 a G43X. Slide went on no problem. Loaded a few 147 gr HPs and no go they stovepiped. They would do the same in my G43. What is wrong here? I ordered some of the 124gr "Nikes" to see if they would feed. Round nose worked fine. I bought two Shield 15 round mags also and they are tight. there is a small gap at the bottom of the magwell with the Shield mags they look like they could go up a few millimeters. I really want the HPs to work in this setup. |
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Originally Posted By furn1408: I just purchased the SCT frame to make my G43 a G43X. Slide went on no problem. Loaded a few 147 gr HPs and no go they stovepiped. They would do the same in my G43. What is wrong here? I ordered some of the 124gr "Nikes" to see if they would feed. Round nose worked fine. I bought two Shield 15 round mags also and they are tight. there is a small gap at the bottom of the magwell with the Shield mags they look like they could go up a few millimeters. I really want the HPs to work in this setup. @furn1408 Did you ever get the SCT frame to run? |
| I have two 43s and two Micro Dagger frames. Both swapped with no issue and ran PSA mags full of mixed random ammo with no hiccups. One of them is my current favorite carry gun. |
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Mine likes to lock up when trying to move the slide. Sometimes it doesn't reset the trigger either. Did the same thing with the OEM trigger. I was hoping a good cleaning would clear it up. No change at all though. Slide is fine on other frames I have. Other slides also lock up. So there is definitely something with my frame too. I tried smoothing out the spots where you all have found burrs. Nothing really found there. Here's my video showing whats going on.  https://youtube.com/shorts/tSTwDe7Ogvg |
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Originally Posted By -Shaggs-: Mine likes to lock up when trying to move the slide. Sometimes it doesn't reset the trigger either. Did the same thing with the OEM trigger. I was hoping a good cleaning would clear it up. No change at all though. Slide is fine on other frames I have. Other slides also lock up. So there is definitely something with my frame too. I tried smoothing out the spots where you all have found burrs. Nothing really found there. Here's my video showing whats going on. http://i.imgur.com/7kifypQ.mp4 https://youtube.com/shorts/tSTwDe7Ogvg If you send me a PM, I can get one of our pistol guys to help you. Thank you, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
| All, I genuinely want to love my dagger micro c1. I have updated this post to give this slide one last shot. I sent it off to PSA for them to check it out. PSA customer service is very good. I will report back once I receive it back. |
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Originally Posted By bigjoe7757: All, I genuinely wanted to love my dagger micro c1. I tried various solutions to fix the issues, but they were too many to overcome. In the end, I decided to move the slide to an OEM frame for one last shot. This improved reliability by using an OEM barrel, recoil spring, and locking block. However, I encountered new problems with the firing pin safety plunger. It would actually get stuck in the slide. I tried replacing the plunger with an OEM one, but the issues worsened. I had to remove the extractor and forcefully push the plunger out. Despite polishing the plunger and chamfering the hole in the slide, I couldn’t resolve the problem. I even tried polishing the inside of the slide where the plunger sits, but the plunger still got stuck. At this point, I’m done with the micro. I’ll try to find an OEM slide and attach it to the OEM frame I bought. The bad part is that I bought a TREX holster, which is a complete waste because it won’t work with an OEM slide. If you would like us to get you taken care of, please send me a PM. Thanks, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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Originally Posted By bigjoe7757: All, I genuinely want to love my dagger micro c1. I have updated this post to give this slide one last shot. I sent it off to PSA for them to check it out. PSA customer service is very good. I will report back once I receive it back. Well, as promised I'm reporting back. Im happy to say my complete C1 slide was replaced and the new one is working flawless. My return experience was easy and quick. I took it to the range today and ran it on both my micro dagger and 43x frame and it work perfectly. The new recoil spring is slightly different (seems much higher quality) and the barrel has a better finish (nitride I think). I wonder if I had an early version which had some bugs. Overall the new complete C1 slide just seems better and they have made some positive refinements. After running 300 rounds today with zero malfunctions the micro dagger C1 with Streamlight TLR7 sub, Holosun EPS carry and Trex Raptor is finally my EDC. PSA Customer Service, Thank you for squaring me away and resolving my issue. |
| I also recently took the slide off of my G43 and purchased a PSA Micro Dagger frame with 2 magazines. First 100 rounds and I am pleased with the combination. Fired every shot without fail. Grip and overall size suits me. Mag springs are stiff, but I can load to full capacity without the assistance of a loader. Trigger seems Glockish to me. Snappy recoil but acceptable accuracy. Durability remains to be seen. |
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FOMO Ordered the black micro frame on the weekend deal $39.00. One 15 rd mag. Kinda stuck me with two shipping charges! the 24.99 magazine ended up costing over 40 bucks because they didn’t put it in the same box with the frame to my FFL. That kinda sucks!!! Have a 43 and this thread got me to pull out the CC! Hope it works |
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Originally Posted By Gatorshooter2: FOMO Ordered the black micro frame on the weekend deal $39.00. One 15 rd mag. Kinda stuck me with two shipping charges! the 24.99 magazine ended up costing over 40 bucks because they didn’t put it in the same box with the frame to my FFL. That kinda sucks!!! Have a 43 and this thread got me to pull out the CC! Hope it works 
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Originally Posted By Gatorshooter2: FOMO Ordered the black micro frame on the weekend deal $39.00. One 15 rd mag. Kinda stuck me with two shipping charges! the 24.99 magazine ended up costing over 40 bucks because they didn’t put it in the same box with the frame to my FFL. That kinda sucks!!! Have a 43 and this thread got me to pull out the CC! Hope it works lol..yep I was in PSA yesterday and stumbled onto the $39.99 frame. Couldnt pass it up. Now, onto finding a slide and barrel. |
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First thoughts: Picked up the frame from the FFL yesterday. Fits well on my 43 slide. No issues. The black psa mag is hard to load it has the orange follower. Ran 15 rounds of cheap 115 gr bulk pack Aguila brand. Ejection was 3:00 for most of them, few went forward. Locked back after last round. So happy with it. Trigger is just ok, but what I expected. This is my 3rd dagger and I have one p80. They all work. Put a timney in my dagger s it’s awesome. I’ll agree with the op. The texture seems slick until you grab it then it seems to lock into my hand. 2nd load of the mag was a little easier. It was only 108 heat index yesterday with high humidity and range was soggy from the rains. My 8” swinger attachment chain decided to break during this, So I decided to wimp out . I’ll run some 124 and 140 gr HPs this weekend. After fixing my target. If it proves reliable with the hps it will be in my carry rotation. PSA, keep up the good work! |