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8/10/2025 9:12:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bansil][Edited]
Looking to try a pistol dot, have a fullsize 9mm dagger ordered with dr base.
What is a good and cheaper option my 1st one?

Will be a ccw and cola type gun
Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44:
Bring it. Our side has a hundred billion bullets. Your side doesn't know which bathroom to piss in.
8/10/2025 9:29:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Not a lot of options in that footprint.  Vortex viper, maybe?
Nonne delectaimini? Nonne hoc est quare adsitis?
8/15/2025 2:27:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Lots of Vortex optics available.  They have been good for me.  I have stayed away from the Docter footprint since none have “shake awake” which I consider mandatory for a carry optic.  You should be able to find one cheap.  I think Primary Arms has an option too.
8/15/2025 3:15:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DavidY][Edited] [#4]
The Dagger is tricky in that not all Docters are made the same.  

It's said that the dagger slides were made for the Vortex Venom and not the Vortex Viper.

Some people have used the Primary Arms SLX RS-10 by either filing slightly on the back of the optic or the slide itself.  Personally, considering the value of a Docter cut Dagger slide, I think I would rather modify that then ruining the warranty on the optic.  

https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slx-rs-10-1x23mm-mini-reflex-sight-3-moa-dot


Of course, there's always all sorts of newer mega Chinese Optics of various names that you could try.  If you don't get any other suggestions, PSA actually has their own forum with dagger owners that you could look into (not the ARFCOM subforum, but This link

Some info per This Reddit thread with info from one of the most knowledgeable PSA Dagger people around.
10/18/2025 12:27:03 AM EDT
[#5]
I have one of these coming in tomorow for a slide I bought knowing the optic was going to be a challenge... ADA has shake awaks, top load battery 2 top priorities for me, its a G17ish clone I built using a Rock island armory STK100 slide really impressed with the slide so decided to compromise on the vortex venom/doctor foot print

https://www.opticsplanet.com/ade-advanced-optics-rd3-012-pro-series-motion-activated-red-dot-sight.html

2/5/2026 2:18:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bansil][Edited] [#6]
Old topic came up, went with  crimson trace, green and it has been solid so far, used in -0 weather, on tractor etc. EDC rig, no complaints other than battery life, if thats valid 6 months and on 2nd battery, changed 2 weeks ago, its always moving or shaking awake.
Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44:
Bring it. Our side has a hundred billion bullets. Your side doesn't know which bathroom to piss in.

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