Posted: 10/17/2024 11:28:33 PM EDT
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I ended up getting rid of a couple pistols that were either duplicates or that I didn't want/need any longer, and traded into this Inglis. Tangent sights, matching S/N on frame/slide/barrel. Old, finish is about 65%, front sight is drifted a lot to the right, could be that's just how it shoots, I haven't had a chance to take it out yet. Magazine floor plate has stampings I would like to figure out. "KFS ATL GA" import on heel, so I'm thinking Chinese Nationalist run stockpile taken over by the commie hordes and imported by Kengs sometime in the 80s. Grips are hard black plastic, newer, with wear, no markings on inside panels. Overall, quite pleased with it, except.....it has a big slot on the back of the frame. I'm thinking of maybe some wrap around grips to cover that up and protect my soft, delicate hands.  There has to be a reliable source for information on year of manufacturer? Also, original production Inglis "holster" is kosher, or does it have to be accompanied by an original "holster". I know there are repros, very good repros available, not interested, I have no desire. Any info appreciated. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Not all the Chinese contract guns were delivered. It seems a significant number ended up with the Canadians and the Brits. Production didn't ramp up unitl 1944, yours is likely that year. Research on these is somewhat limited. Yeah, I've found it's rather sketchy when it comes to finding good info. I'm assuming, maybe incorrectly, this was delivered to China since it was imported by Kengs, that was a huge importer of AK rifles FROM China in the 80s and early 90s. I did discover, also, that the grips appear to be original, but, the left panel is not correct for this, as it isn't inletted for the lanyard loop. I took it off, and the lower bottom of the frame is threaded for it. I can buy a lanyard loop for it on GB from.....Kengs! 
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Clive Law’s Collector grade book called the Inglis Diamond is the best source of information on these pistols. It’s out of print and now expensive but worth it in my opinion. Per Law’s book your 4CH block serial number gun was made between August and October 1945. The 4CH block of pistols have been observed as used by Chinese nationals and Communist forces in the 50s. This pistols stayed in service into the 1980s and were sold on to the surplus market in Hong Kong during that time. Probably how Kang’s got it. It was part of the second or third contract (probably 3rd) of guns sent to Shanghai China in the fall of 1945 or 1946. The proof (crossed flags)marks next to the serial number on the frame are Dominion of Canada proof marks. The proof next to this is C with an in A in middle. It is a proof mark of Canadian Arsenals LTD. This was post war Canadian government owned company that manufactured spare parts and made repairs to Canadian service pistols. The magazine is interesting. It’s an FN made hi power magazine. Marked by Austrian Rural police in 1950s LGK stands Land Gendarmerie Command. ST is for the Austrian state of Steiermark. No idea how this magazine ended up with this pistol. Never seen one with an inglis pistol. Here’s some further reading on Austrian weapons after WW2. Specifically focuses on M1 carbines but other weapons are mentioned. http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/Gendarmerie.html |
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Originally Posted By kobayashimaru: Clive Law’s Collector grade book called the Inglis Diamond is the best source of information on these pistols. It’s out of print and now expensive but worth it in my opinion. Per Law’s book your 4CH block serial number gun was made between August and October 1945. The 4CH block of pistols have been observed as used by Chinese nationals and Communist forces in the 50s. This pistols stayed in service into the 1980s and were sold on to the surplus market in Hong Kong during that time. Probably how Kang’s got it. It was part of the second or third contract (probably 3rd) of guns sent to Shanghai China in the fall of 1945 or 1946. The proof (crossed flags)marks next to the serial number on the frame are Dominion of Canada proof marks. The proof next to this is C with an in A in middle. It is a proof mark of Canadian Arsenals LTD. This was post war Canadian government owned company that manufactured spare parts and made repairs to Canadian service pistols. The magazine is interesting. It’s an FN made hi power magazine. Marked by Austrian Rural police in 1950s LGK stands Land Gendarmerie Command. ST is for the Austrian state of Steiermark. No idea how this magazine ended up with this pistol. Never seen one with an inglis pistol. Here’s some further reading on Austrian weapons after WW2. Specifically focuses on M1 carbines but other weapons are mentioned. http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/Gendarmerie.html Holy mackerel, thank you very much! That is a hundred and 99 thousands times more information than I had previously. The magazine not being original, I think I understand. My buddy, the FFL I got it from, usually gets most of his items from going through gun shows, buying collections, or, local types sell a group or more of THEIR items to him. He has 3 other High Powers, 2 commercial Belgian, think 1976 and 1981, and another Inglis, not slotted, so most likely he got all 4 from the same seller, and over the years, this individual, who probably sold a portion of what he had, ended up using the Austrian mag in the gun and it ended up on it's journey to me, with it. Thanks again, I have somewhere to start. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: OP, if the slot bothers you, you could have it welded up - but then your holster might not fit correctly. I think I'll JB Weld it up first. I'm looking on a pair of "real" mother of pearl grips on Etsy right now. I'm waiting on my wife to give me my allowance so I can go buy a pre paid credit card and order them. I'm so excited! (sarcasm for the GD folks that might wander in......)
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Originally Posted By 762AP: Holy mackerel, thank you very much! That is a hundred and 99 thousands times more information than I had previously. The magazine not being original, I think I understand. My buddy, the FFL I got it from, usually gets most of his items from going through gun shows, buying collections, or, local types sell a group or more of THEIR items to him. He has 3 other High Powers, 2 commercial Belgian, think 1976 and 1981, and another Inglis, not slotted, so most likely he got all 4 from the same seller, and over the years, this individual, who probably sold a portion of what he had, ended up using the Austrian mag in the gun and it ended up on it's journey to me, with it. Thanks again, I have somewhere to start. No problem. Happy to help! |
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Originally Posted By 762AP: I think I'll JB Weld it up first. I'm looking on a pair of "real" mother of pearl grips on Etsy right now. I'm waiting on my wife to give me my allowance so I can go buy a pre paid credit card and order them. I'm so excited! (sarcasm for the GD folks that might wander in......) I'd leave it original You can always buy a $400 new INGLIS ( made in Turkey)  https://americanhandgunner.com/handguns/semi-auto-handguns/inglis-l9a1-hi-power-review/ |
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Originally Posted By Colt653: I'd leave it original You can always buy a $400 new INGLIS ( made in Turkey) https://i.imgur.com/eKYRlSe.jpg https://americanhandgunner.com/handguns/semi-auto-handguns/inglis-l9a1-hi-power-review/ I am going to leave it as is. I have a real case of Autohumorosis, meaning, I amuse myself, often at the expense of other around me. The only thing I'll do to the pistol is find the correct left grip panel and a lanyard loop for it. And, probably some mags, a canvas P-58 pattern canvas holster, some spare parts, and maybe a But aside from that, I'm leaving it totally stock. |
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Originally Posted By luv_the_huskers: An original wooden holster is quite expensive. I haven't looked in years, but the repro's aren't too cheap either. Yeah, they is a bit.  The repros aren't kosher. Period manufacture are OK, for now, but a reproduction carriers the same burden as SBRing a rifle. From what I've been able to determine. Who wants to be the test case for that nonsense? |
Yes, I have Autohumorosis.
It's funny sometimes......
It's funny sometimes......
| The importer mark is KFS was Keng's Firearms in Atlanta who imported lots of stuff in the late 80s and 90s - Chinese dude with a Chinese and southern accent! He imported lots from China (AKs, pistols parts, SKS and surplus firearms and pistols like broomhandles) Those were the days for imports! |
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I'd like to thank 762AP for selling me the magazine posted above for my Austrian Police Hi Power . Most of these Austrians came with 2 matching magazines mine had none and with the service wear mine has the addition of the magazine has made it much more attractive. While the district and number stampings are different on the mag and pistol i feel lucky just having it. Thanks Mike ! 
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Originally Posted By 1MRBEAN: I'd like to thank 762AP for selling me the magazine posted above for my Austrian Police Hi Power . Most of these Austrians came with 2 matching magazines mine had none and with the service wear mine has the addition of the magazine has made it much more attractive. While the district and number stampings are different on the mag and pistol i feel lucky just having it. Thanks Mike ! https://i.imgur.com/kDbmsVt.jpg Matching patina..... There is just something about old, used, honest wear on a collectible handgun. Very nice.
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Yes, I have Autohumorosis.
It's funny sometimes......
It's funny sometimes......