Posted: 9/10/2026 1:06:20 AM EDT
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@03RN got me thinking Maybe I need to get some of my Smiths cut for moon clips and shoot the hell out of them |
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If for 38/357 you should know that there are different size thickness clips for the cut on the casings. There is no standard and its all over the dang place between manufacturers Not so bad if your sort your brass or buy one type But its worth knowing so you end up with the correct combination |
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Originally Posted By chase45: If for 38/357 you should know that there are different size thickness clips for the cut on the casings. There is no standard and its all over the dang place between manufacturers Not so bad if your sort your brass or buy one type But its worth knowing so you end up with the correct combination Well ain’t that some shit Are any two or three manufacturers cross compatible or is it truly that every one is different? |
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda: Well ain’t that some shit Are any two or three manufacturers cross compatible or is it truly that every one is different? I think TK customs has a chart to help with certain manufactures of the brass and which moonclip to use But yeah its straight up all over the place in 38/357. Some brass wont fit at all. Some will fit just right. Others too loose. Depending on thickness of moonclip of course Ill be real with you and my experience only applies to 38/357. I think its a neat feature. But between bending the dang things and the brass situation, which in turn often bends them, I gave up with them. I had a 586 that was cut and still have a 640 thats cut. If you keep the clips fresh and stay up on them I think a guy can be okay. But its hard to spot the ones that get a wee bit out of whack and then one or two wont fire in that clip From my understanding 38/357 is the hardest to deal with regarding moonclips. But not impossible. I wanted to love moonclips but it didnt work out for me The 586 was a 7 shot and the 640 a 5 shot. To the 640 credit I feel the clips were more robust than the 7 shot 586 Pretty much used federal brass exclusively when I used clips |
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Originally Posted By chase45: I think TK customs has a chart to help with certain manufactures of the brass and which moonclip to use But yeah its straight up all over the place in 38/357. Some brass wont fit at all. Some will fit just right. Others too loose. Depending on thickness of moonclip of course Ill be real with you and my experience only applies to 38/357. I think its a neat feature. But between bending the dang things and the brass situation, which in turn often bends them, I gave up with them. I had a 586 that was cut and still have a 640 thats cut. If you keep the clips fresh and stay up on them I think a guy can be okay. But its hard to spot the ones that get a wee bit out of whack and then one or two wont fire in that clip From my understanding 38/357 is the hardest to deal with regarding moonclips. But not impossible. I wanted to love moonclips but it didnt work out for me The 586 was a 7 shot and the 640 a 5 shot. To the 640 credit I feel the clips were more robust than the 7 shot 586 Pretty much used federal brass exclusively when I used clips This is a good point. The moonclip sounds like a great idea but the loading/unloading and ease of bending the moonclip itself just lends itself to be more trouble than it's worth. Other than the ones I already have, I'll likely never do that again. Speed loaders are just as fast and dumping the spent brass (at least in my experience) is easier without the moonclips. |
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I used tk for my m625 mountain gun. Attached File With rimless cases moon clips are awesome and the best way to go. Rimmed case moon clips suck and I would rather load from a 2x2x2 pouch. If some of those revolvers are 38/357 then I'd get them rechambered to 38 super. That would be pretty awesome. .357 mag performance with good moon clips. You'd still be able to use .357 mag but the brass would probably bulge to much. |
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Originally Posted By pscipio03: This is a good point. The moonclip sounds like a great idea but the loading/unloading and ease of bending the moonclip itself just lends itself to be more trouble than it's worth. Other than the ones I already have, I'll likely never do that again. Speed loaders are just as fast and dumping the spent brass (at least in my experience) is easier without the moonclips. Originally Posted By pscipio03: Originally Posted By chase45: I think TK customs has a chart to help with certain manufactures of the brass and which moonclip to use But yeah its straight up all over the place in 38/357. Some brass wont fit at all. Some will fit just right. Others too loose. Depending on thickness of moonclip of course Ill be real with you and my experience only applies to 38/357. I think its a neat feature. But between bending the dang things and the brass situation, which in turn often bends them, I gave up with them. I had a 586 that was cut and still have a 640 thats cut. If you keep the clips fresh and stay up on them I think a guy can be okay. But its hard to spot the ones that get a wee bit out of whack and then one or two wont fire in that clip From my understanding 38/357 is the hardest to deal with regarding moonclips. But not impossible. I wanted to love moonclips but it didnt work out for me The 586 was a 7 shot and the 640 a 5 shot. To the 640 credit I feel the clips were more robust than the 7 shot 586 Pretty much used federal brass exclusively when I used clips This is a good point. The moonclip sounds like a great idea but the loading/unloading and ease of bending the moonclip itself just lends itself to be more trouble than it's worth. Other than the ones I already have, I'll likely never do that again. Speed loaders are just as fast and dumping the spent brass (at least in my experience) is easier without the moonclips. I definitely find moonclips to be consistently faster. Now speedloaders can be as fast but they often need a case to be pushed in all the way like this. Now this was on the first stage of the day with an immaculately clean gun with spotless chambers.  Bearcamp 10/10/21 stage 1 As for ejection, im kinda agnostic on it because of the way I eject. But it is nice for administrative tasks. Moon clips for .45 auto are tough enough that they dont really bend unless you step on them. But a comp2 will break too if you do that. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: I definitely find moonclips to be consistently faster. Now speedloaders can be as fast but they often need a case to be pushed in all the way like this. Now this was on the first stage of the day with an immaculately clean gun with spotless chambers.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-UZy_2J_nUAs for ejection, im kinda agnostic on it because of the way I eject. But it is nice for administrative tasks. Moon clips for .45 auto are tough enough that they dont really bend unless you step on them. But a comp2 will break too if you do that. Ive found the speedloaders themselves to dirty and fail to release all of them sometimes. The HKS especially. Safariland seems a step above. My 6 shot gets safariland loaders and they are pretty much no fuss and work well all the time. I have some of the SL Variants for my 7 shot 686. I am revisiting them as they are lightning fast when setup properly In the past they would lose rounds when I carry them in my pocket which is very annoying. I think if I build some sort of device to limit how much the rounds can flex inwards during carry this would solve them losing rounds while pocket carrying them Often I wonder if the 6 shot variant for my 686 would give me less problems in this department as a whole |
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Rather than getting your .357 machined for moonclips, get the 9mm conversion done by TK customs. The 9mm clips are much harder to bend. They're thicker .035 or .040 as opposed to. 020 or .025 for the .357Mag. The shorter 9mm cartridges have less leverage and weight to bend the clips with. The 9mm is tapered vs the straight walled .357Mag. They align easier, go in faster and eject with much less force. 9mm brass has far less variation in the size of the groove the clip fits into. Pretty much everything just works, even some .380. Your cylinder will still work with .38/.357 same as before or with the appropriate moonclips. |
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Originally Posted By chase45: Ive found the speedloaders themselves to dirty and fail to release all of them sometimes. The HKS especially. Safariland seems a step above. My 6 shot gets safariland loaders and they are pretty much no fuss and work well all the time. I have some of the SL Variants for my 7 shot 686. I am revisiting them as they are lightning fast when setup properly In the past they would lose rounds when I carry them in my pocket which is very annoying. I think if I build some sort of device to limit how much the rounds can flex inwards during carry this would solve them losing rounds while pocket carrying them Often I wonder if the 6 shot variant for my 686 would give me less problems in this department as a whole Your 7-shot HKS loaders form tiny fractures between the chambers from being dropped. The super thin plastic forms a little hangnail towards the release knob that will cause the rounds to hang. The SL variants, or at least the replicas that I have, start to lose rounds when the yellow plastic retaining teeth wear. The only 2 decent options for the 7 shooters Ive found are- The 5-star which are expensive($40) and rattle but work and look good. The Makershot which are cheap ($16), quiet and work. |
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Originally Posted By Rangie: Your 7-shot HKS loaders form tiny fractures between the chambers from being dropped. The super thin plastic forms a little hangnail towards the release knob that will cause the rounds to hang. The SL variants, or at least the replicas that I have, start to lose rounds when the yellow plastic retaining teeth wear. The only 2 decent options for the 7 shooters Ive found are- The 5-star which are expensive($40) and rattle but work and look good. The Makershot which are cheap ($16), quiet and work. Originally Posted By Rangie: Originally Posted By chase45: Ive found the speedloaders themselves to dirty and fail to release all of them sometimes. The HKS especially. Safariland seems a step above. My 6 shot gets safariland loaders and they are pretty much no fuss and work well all the time. I have some of the SL Variants for my 7 shot 686. I am revisiting them as they are lightning fast when setup properly In the past they would lose rounds when I carry them in my pocket which is very annoying. I think if I build some sort of device to limit how much the rounds can flex inwards during carry this would solve them losing rounds while pocket carrying them Often I wonder if the 6 shot variant for my 686 would give me less problems in this department as a whole Your 7-shot HKS loaders form tiny fractures between the chambers from being dropped. The super thin plastic forms a little hangnail towards the release knob that will cause the rounds to hang. The SL variants, or at least the replicas that I have, start to lose rounds when the yellow plastic retaining teeth wear. The only 2 decent options for the 7 shooters Ive found are- The 5-star which are expensive($40) and rattle but work and look good. The Makershot which are cheap ($16), quiet and work. Have you tried jetloaders? |
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Originally Posted By chase45: If for 38/357 you should know that there are different size thickness clips for the cut on the casings. There is no standard and its all over the dang place between manufacturers Not so bad if your sort your brass or buy one type But its worth knowing so you end up with the correct combination This right here is one of the reasons I've not bothered with moon clips on a .38, and that's factoring in that I only use Starline for reloading now because of frustrating experiences with mixed brass in .38 Special. Rim thickness, case wall thickness, and even case length vary among the manufacturers enough that it's noticeable. TKC does offer clips for various cases. If you're going to start loading .38, I'd just rip the bandaid off and buy bulk Starline brass. Raven Rocks carries it for 17 cents per case, and it lasts a long time. |
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Originally Posted By jhon: This right here is one of the reasons I've not bothered with moon clips on a .38, and that's factoring in that I only use Starline for reloading now because of frustrating experiences with mixed brass in .38 Special. Rim thickness, case wall thickness, and even case length vary among the manufacturers enough that it's noticeable. TKC does offer clips for various cases. If you're going to start loading .38, I'd just rip the bandaid off and buy bulk Starline brass. Raven Rocks carries it for 17 cents per case, and it lasts a long time. The moonclips do make retaining your brass pretty easy. If you're going to do the clipped revolver thing buy the loading tool and enough clips to get you through whatever your doing. We have a regular class here that gets broken into two groups so one can shoot while the other refills their magazines. I bring a bunch of ammo all clipped up and shoot twice as much as everyone else. 
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Originally Posted By Rangie: They don't make them for the 7 shooters. Even at $75 a piece I would be all over that. Originally Posted By Rangie: Originally Posted By 03RN: Have you tried jetloaders? They don't make them for the 7 shooters. Even at $75 a piece I would be all over that. Woops, my bad. I recently got some 6 rd L frame ones and I thought they had 7 rd ones available as well. |
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