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8/19/2020 3:53:55 PM EDT
Girsan M18
Holy shit,what will they clone next?
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8/19/2020 7:39:28 PM EDT
[#1]
P7 !?  
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8/19/2020 9:50:57 PM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By bigthicket:
Girsan M18
Holy shit,what will they clone next?
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model 59s had frame safeties???  Don't think so...
8/19/2020 10:04:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW][Edited] [#3]
frame safety is an upgrade

I cant find it online.  where are pics?
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8/19/2020 10:34:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cav-Gunner][Edited] [#4]
MC 18 Girsan website

8/19/2020 11:07:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW][Edited] [#5]
Oh damn I like it.  does it take 59 series mags?

but your 1911 link goes to the other pistol
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8/20/2020 5:33:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Description at Gunprime (no affiliation) says accepts 5900 Series mags.

Link
8/21/2020 5:57:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCopp:
model 59s had frame safeties???  Don't think so...
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True,but it uses 59 mags,and i like the safety on it.
It follows the S&W lines on the pistol.
Probably not buying one,just impressed with their clones.
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8/21/2020 5:58:50 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By MRW:
frame safety is an upgrade

I cant find it online.  where are pics?
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I saw it on Gundeals.
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8/22/2020 10:48:17 PM EDT
[#9]
The frame seems like it has more Beretta features than s&w to me.
9/6/2020 11:18:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ-Dave][Edited] [#10]
Yes.... much more "Beretta" inspiration than S&W. Look at the trigger, trigger bar and mag release... all Beretta 92 copy... i bet the takedown lever is as well but can't see it. If it takes S&W 59 series mags, great  but I bet the resemblance ends there. The safety looks to be inspired by the Taurus PT92 if anything.

Cloning the attributes of a proven design is a good thing as long they do their part in assembly/parts manufacturing.... all the Turkish pistols I own are pretty flawless, and I think I'm up to 11 currently.
9/27/2020 4:23:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By bigthicket:
Girsan M18
Holy shit,what will they clone next?
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I wish they'd clone the remington model 11 and the 1908 colt.
9/27/2020 4:36:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coyotesilencer:
The frame seems like it has more Beretta features than s&w to me.
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9/27/2020 5:04:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Unless you already own a bunch of S&A 59 mags, who'd see that as a plus?
9/27/2020 5:16:50 PM EDT
[#14]
There is nothing S&W in that gun except for the magazine. The gun is a 9mm version of a Taurus PT-945, which is a Beretta 92 scaled to .45 ACP.



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10/20/2020 8:28:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TonyRumore][Edited] [#15]
The barrel doesn't lockup like a Beretta 92.

Tony

2/3/2021 6:27:24 PM EDT
[#16]
I just ordered one today from PSA, I have a 910 and a 559 so I have a shitload of mags to fit it. At least it was in stock and the price wasn't jacked up from gouging.
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2/7/2021 5:37:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kanewtervalve:
I just ordered one today from PSA, I have a 910 and a 559 so I have a shitload of mags to fit it. At least it was in stock and the price wasn't jacked up from gouging.
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@kanewtervalve pics when you get it are required
2/7/2021 6:22:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCopp:

@kanewtervalve pics when you get it are required
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Picking it up tomorrow or Tuesday, depending on UPS, will do for pics.
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2/8/2021 1:20:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kanewtervalve][Edited] [#19]

Safety does not drop the hammer, SA pull avg: 4.7 lbs DA avg: 10lbs Takedown is kind of odd, you have to press the button under the takedown lever as you rotate the lever
It's not too bad because you can have the slide locked back while you do this. The finish is just like a regular Beretta 92 and there are similarities all over it that are like
it as well, it does have the feel of the Smith 559 and as you can see in the picture, the mag it came with(the only one) is a Mec Gar 59 15rd.
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2/10/2021 8:19:04 PM EDT
[#20]
Fits my Blackhawk Serpa C1311 that I bought for my G17, but doesn't fit very well in my Fobus for the same model.
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4/25/2021 6:30:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Wow a Turkish Taurus that uses a S&W mag!  Hard pass!
11/7/2021 8:48:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wmagrush][Edited] [#22]
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Originally Posted By AASG:
Unless you already own a bunch of S&W 59 mags, who'd see that as a plus?
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Appeals to those people that still have Marlin Camp 9 carbines.
11/8/2021 2:45:36 PM EDT
[#23]
They should have done a ASP S&W clone.  It would serve the same role as the clone they made and appeal to the retro crowd.  I probably would have got one if they did that.  I'm going to eventually get one of their Hi-Power clones.
1/15/2022 2:22:18 AM EDT
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2/7/2022 3:40:45 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By TonyRumore:
The barrel doesn't lockup like a Beretta 92.

Tony

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The PT 945 and 938 were basically PT92 frames chopped and hacked to take a tilting barrel slide. I’d still like to have a 945 as a conversation piece, but cloning one into looking kind of like a S&W 59 series seems odd. Never underestimate the Turks ambition to knock guns off though I guess.
2/7/2022 10:40:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VASCAR2][Edited] [#26]
I think the Grisan M 18 is a copy of the Daewoo DP51 9 MM pistol which also uses S&W 59 mags.  Grisan changed the safety and trigger guard a little but I think Daewoo was used in the design on the M18.   Some of the visual cues are very similar to the Taurus like the slide serrations.   Not an exact copy of either but the Daewoo DP51 has a reputation for being a decent service pistol.

Here is the Grisan M-18.



Here is the Daewoo DP 51.





The other side of the Grisan M18

2/7/2022 10:56:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ-Dave:
Yes.... much more "Beretta" inspiration than S&W. Look at the trigger, trigger bar and mag release... all Beretta 92 copy... i bet the takedown lever is as well but can't see it. If it takes S&W 59 series mags, great  but I bet the resemblance ends there. The safety looks to be inspired by the Taurus PT92 if anything.

Cloning the attributes of a proven design is a good thing as long they do their part in assembly/parts manufacturing.... all the Turkish pistols I own are pretty flawless, and I think I'm up to 11 currently.
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Definitely NOT a "S&W Clone" - It just happens to be a 9mm that accepts S&W 5900 series magazines.

None of my S&W 2nd or 3rd Gen guns do have any huge Beretta type trigger bar on the exterior of the right side.

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