Posted: 8/12/2019 7:53:03 AM EDT
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Anybody have one?
Good? Bad? Appreciate feedback ,thanks. |
5th. generation Texan
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I've been eyeing it in tan. Looks like a great gun and, for what it cost. They say that the CEO of the Co. carries one so, maybe that says something.
I think 92 mags work also. Only thing I wish it had is a replaceable front sight. |
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I have a lot of experience with these. Actually with the whole Girsan line in general. I'm not generally a Girsan fan, but these are one of the better products they make imo. They often shoot very well. The big things to keep in mind is that they are a copy of the 92F, not the 92FS. So they don't have the enlarged hammer axis pin that keeps the slide from shooting off of the rear of the gun if a failure occurs. This always makes me a bit uneasy when shooting them. The other major difference between the Girsan and the Beretta is the barrel and locking block. They aren't a direct swap. This can be a hassle if you need to change them because Girsan parts are generally hard to come by. Even the importers generally have trouble getting the parts for them. The magazines are interchangeable with Beretta magazines which is nice. This insures that you won't have any trouble finding extras for it. Imo when Beretta's were $600 + the Girsan wasn't a bad choice. Now that they can be had on sale for $450 a few times a year, I'd probably buy an actual Beretta for the little extra that they cost over one of these. If you have any specific questions, just let me know and I'll be glad to answer them for you. |
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Originally Posted By slowr1der:
I have a lot of experience with these. Actually with the whole Girsan line in general. I'm not generally a Girsan fan, but these are one of the better products they make imo. They often shoot very well. The big things to keep in mind is that they are a copy of the 92F, not the 92FS. So they don't have the enlarged hammer axis pin that keeps the slide from shooting off of the rear of the gun if a failure occurs. This always makes me a bit uneasy when shooting them. The other major difference between the Girsan and the Beretta is the barrel and locking block. They aren't a direct swap. This can be a hassle if you need to change them because Girsan parts are generally hard to come by. Even the importers generally have trouble getting the parts for them. The magazines are interchangeable with Beretta magazines which is nice. This insures that you won't have any trouble finding extras for it. Imo when Beretta's were $600 + the Girsan wasn't a bad choice. Now that they can be had on sale for $450 a few times a year, I'd probably buy an actual Beretta for the little extra that they cost over one of these. If you have any specific questions, just let me know and I'll be glad to answer them for you. Also,retired,so going the cheap route on this one. Thanks for the info ! |
5th. generation Texan
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Originally Posted By bigthicket:
Agree. I just got a new 92 Compact three weeks back for $439. I am new to the platform,and want this for a range toy. Also,retired,so going the cheap route on this one. Thanks for the info ! Originally Posted By bigthicket:
Originally Posted By slowr1der:
I have a lot of experience with these. Actually with the whole Girsan line in general. I'm not generally a Girsan fan, but these are one of the better products they make imo. They often shoot very well. The big things to keep in mind is that they are a copy of the 92F, not the 92FS. So they don't have the enlarged hammer axis pin that keeps the slide from shooting off of the rear of the gun if a failure occurs. This always makes me a bit uneasy when shooting them. The other major difference between the Girsan and the Beretta is the barrel and locking block. They aren't a direct swap. This can be a hassle if you need to change them because Girsan parts are generally hard to come by. Even the importers generally have trouble getting the parts for them. The magazines are interchangeable with Beretta magazines which is nice. This insures that you won't have any trouble finding extras for it. Imo when Beretta's were $600 + the Girsan wasn't a bad choice. Now that they can be had on sale for $450 a few times a year, I'd probably buy an actual Beretta for the little extra that they cost over one of these. If you have any specific questions, just let me know and I'll be glad to answer them for you. Also,retired,so going the cheap route on this one. Thanks for the info ! |
| Guns Midwest has the Regard for $299.50 in all black. I'm so tempted. I wish Zenith was still the importer though as they actually gave you the three mags the pistol ships with as where EAA robs mags as usual. No biggie as I'd order a few MecGar 18rd mags from Cote... |
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Originally Posted By DCopp:
Guns Midwest has the Regard for $299.50 in all black. I'm so tempted. I wish Zenith was still the importer though as they actually gave you the three mags the pistol ships with as where EAA robs mags as usual. No biggie as I'd order a few MecGar 18rd mags from Cote... Very well built. Smooth action and the grip feels great It’s not as accurate as my 92FS but still shoots well Accuracy is on par with my Taurus PT92 I am glad Beretta 92 magazines work with them That is one thing I hate about EAA guns. Only 1 magazine with them. |
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Is the grip on this one the same size as the Beretta? I love the Beretta, but the grip is just too blocky for my tastes. The 92X, with it's trimmed down grip, is great, but I'm not spending that much on the gun, haha.
EDIT: width on the Girsan is listed by EAA at 35mm. Beretta's website lists the 92FS at 38mm. Don't know if that measurement is the grip or slide. Likely the latter, but it might trickle down to the grip. Watched a couple of YT vids, and a couple of shots I saw seemed to indicate the Girsan may be just a bit narrower in the grip. |
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Originally Posted By Lanza: Is the grip on this one the same size as the Beretta? I love the Beretta, but the grip is just too blocky for my tastes. The 92X, with it's trimmed down grip, is great, but I'm not spending that much on the gun, haha. EDIT: width on the Girsan is listed by EAA at 35mm. Beretta's website lists the 92FS at 38mm. Don't know if that measurement is the grip or slide. Likely the latter, but it might trickle down to the grip. Watched a couple of YT vids, and a couple of shots I saw seemed to indicate the Girsan may be just a bit narrower in the grip. The grip is slimmer than the M9 grip. The lower back strap hump is also contoured differently and protrudes less than the M9. There would have been a lot less bitching about the M9 if it had a grip form like the Girsan. |
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Greetings, I have just purchased the Regard MC. Not many options out there now. Intend to use it for HD and some target shooting. Just found this thread and started to wonder how potentially problematic the slide/frame separation can be. Is that a significant issue with this model as well? Are there any aftermarket mods to diminish the possibility of this happening? Are their aftermarket conversions to 92FS? Thanks for any ideas. |
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Hi: I just pickup mine up ~ 1 week ago. I am quite happy with the finish but man, have I had an excessive amount of jams. Using reloads + Winchester White Box. All of those work well in my M&P. I have ~ 33% failure (25 of 75) in the Girsan. I cleaned it before first shooting it, and after. Jams are that the spent casing will not eject and has to be manually pulled out from the barrel (& thus interferes with the mag trying to load a fresh round in the chamber. I emailed Girsan (can't call) and they responded within 10 minutes - try different ammo. I personally thought it was a BS answer with a new gun + that high of a failure rate + shooting another 9mm next to it and it worked flawlessly. I did change out the grip to a Hogue and might be thinking that is interfering with the (ext) trigger bar. I've since put the original back on. I suspect it's going back to EAA (FFL + Shipping Costs $$), but I want to try all things on my side first. I knew I was saving some money, kind of regretting this now. ALL of the reviews I read have been not only positive, but to summarily state - a better Beretta. My doesn't appear to be that. I've had no experience with Beretta to know if they'd be any different. So far, not a fan of EAA or Girsan. Has anyone experienced this? Have suggestions for me to try first (before sending it in). Thanks. George (Spritey1964) |
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Originally Posted By DCopp: It should have the enlarged hammer pin to prevent it That’s news to me. Everything I’ve read says they don’t, as they are an F clone and not FS. Beretta grips will work, but you have to modify them and they still won’t line up perfectly. |
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Originally Posted By Spritey1964: Hi: I just pickup mine up ~ 1 week ago. I am quite happy with the finish but man, have I had an excessive amount of jams. Using reloads + Winchester White Box. All of those work well in my M&P. I have ~ 33% failure (25 of 75) in the Girsan. I cleaned it before first shooting it, and after. Jams are that the spent casing will not eject and has to be manually pulled out from the barrel (& thus interferes with the mag trying to load a fresh round in the chamber. I emailed Girsan (can't call) and they responded within 10 minutes - try different ammo. I personally thought it was a BS answer with a new gun + that high of a failure rate + shooting another 9mm next to it and it worked flawlessly. I did change out the grip to a Hogue and might be thinking that is interfering with the (ext) trigger bar. I've since put the original back on. I suspect it's going back to EAA (FFL + Shipping Costs $$), but I want to try all things on my side first. I knew I was saving some money, kind of regretting this now. ALL of the reviews I read have been not only positive, but to summarily state - a better Beretta. My doesn't appear to be that. I've had no experience with Beretta to know if they'd be any different. So far, not a fan of EAA or Girsan. Has anyone experienced this? Have suggestions for me to try first (before sending it in). Thanks. George (Spritey1964) I would suggest you try 1 box of 124 grain 9mm and see if the pistol functions. Some handguns are designed to function on the hotter load of the 124 grain Nato, but will choke on 115 grain. Cheaper than the ride back to EAA. Hope this helps. |