Girsan MCP 35 PI (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/18/2022 11:50:45 PM EDT
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Any ideas when these will hit the LGS? They were announced in 8/22. MCP35 PI |
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Just arrived today…. Fresh out of the box. Not even cleaned or wiped down. Currently at my local LGS for SFS, C&S wide trigger, removal of mag safety, and what ever polishing and attention he thinks it needs. Finish is really good, trigger is heavy but breaks really clean, frame to slide fit is really nice and tight. Overall it’s a really nice piece…. Only complaint I got is the safety is a hair mushy coming down. I’ll get it to the range hopefully sometime next week.  
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| If that had been on the shelf at my local GS, I would have been interested. As if was, I got an OPS version with hopes for a light when it does bed side duty. I now need a holster for when it makes it into the carry rotation. A question, what are they doing with the finish on the barrels? It looks like a nickle or hard chrome, whatever it is I hope it wears well. I have yet to get mine to the range, hope it does well. |
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@M60-E4 Yep, it's the OPS version, been easier to find a holster with out the rail option, but I kinda figured it for house duty too so as to justify the rail. Maybe tomorrow for the range. ETA: Back to the Mother Ship, it's got the extraction problem as presented in the BH Spring Solutions. |
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Picked mine up today. Gave it some new shoes. The trigger feels pretty gritty. I’ll shoot it tomorrow. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By robmkivseries70: @M60-E4 Yep, it's the OPS version, been easier to find a holster with out the rail option, but I kinda figured it for house duty too so as to justify the rail. Maybe tomorrow for the range. ETA: Back to the Mother Ship, it's got the extraction problem as presented in the BH Spring Solutions. I need to speak to this, my LGS kindly took the extractor out and cleaned some junk out of the channel. At the moment it's running 100 %. Reading Stephen A Camp's notes, he says that a few thousandths can be removed from the bottom of the extractor, if necessary, to improve the grip on the brass. hth ETA 2: Indeed, I had to remove the extractor and file on the pad a bit. It now grips the brass quite well and ejects just fine. I also ordered a new extractor to have on stand by. I probably ought to shoot it a bit more for proof of concept. |
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I saw a review in American Rifleman. I'm definitely interested in the PI OPS version. 15+1 SAO No magazine disconnect Ate everything they fed it. Decent accuracy Good ergonomics I'm already thinking about which pistol to sell to fund it. 
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Originally Posted By eracer: I saw a review in American Rifleman. I'm definitely interested in the PI OPS version. 15+1 SAO No magazine disconnect Ate everything they fed it. Decent accuracy Good ergonomics I'm already thinking about which pistol to sell to fund it. https://gundigest.com/wp-content/uploads/MC-P35-OPS-Optic-angle.jpg I'm curious what optic cut that is natively cut for... if RMSc or RMS a Holosun EPS Carry might drop on and have a 'rear sight' to replace the one that crappy dot has. I don't 'need' this... but it is basically everything I've ever wanted in a carry style BHP. I'm keeping an eye on prices... if I run across one at the right price, I'm willing to do the clean up work it may need for final polish. |
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I got this one from Buds. TLR 1 doesn't fit on it. TLR 3 fits well. I've got a Holosun EPS Carry on it and it fits quite well. Feels great in the hand. Getting a holster for it is going to be rough. Attached File |
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Finally found a PI match. Looks good. I can’t shoot it until the weekend.Attached File |
I don't know how this works, but I nominate Joker and Fluffy for arfcom sainthood.
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Originally Posted By hollowhandle: Finally found a PI match. Looks good. I can’t shoot it until the weekend.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44438/IMG_2580_jpeg-2896979.JPG From this angle it's hard to tell- does your PI match not have the optic cut? edit- just realized it also doesn't have the railed frame. I like it! Wish they'd had that model when I bought my PI. |
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I got a PI in at my dealer last week. After cleaning, the very first thing to go was that mag safety. It made a world of difference in the trigger pull! Instead of that crunchy, creepy heavy trigger, it got a LOT smoother and a bit lighter. The MkIII firing pin safety has a spring to overcome during the trigger pull. That means the trigger will always be a little heavier than my FN Hi-Power made in ‘61 with the mag safety also removed or my SA35 as both of those lack a firing pin block like the Girsan has. The next thing I replaced was the grips. My SA35 was upgraded with a pair of original Belgian Hi-Power wood grips so my SA35 factory grips were handed down to my PI. Much more comfortable and WAY more attractive than the factory MkIII grips the Girsan came with. Now I’m just fighting the urge to get a full sized MC P35 and maybe a FEG clone. 
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Originally Posted By Gopher: This looks interesting but I wish it wasn't so big. https://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/MC14-T-Front-New-Grip.png What mags does it take? |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: What mags does it take? Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Gopher: This looks interesting but I wish it wasn't so big. https://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/MC14-T-Front-New-Grip.png What mags does it take? I understand it will take Beretta Model 84 magazines. I’m actually thinking of getting one to keep for my older age when and if my hand strength goes to hell. In that, I think this has a very good market to those with weaker hand strength such and some women, younger shooters and the elderly. This is why I also don’t mind that it’s not the size of a Kel-Tec P3AT. It’s not designed to be an Uber-compact .380 for carrying in a Speedo. It’s designed to be an easy to load and shoot pistol. The compact pistols are easy to conceal but they are harder to shoot as well. You can’t use a 9mm or larger with this design as it requires a caliber that can be fired through a blowback action that lacks an extractor and the .380ACP fits this bill nicely. Yes, it’s a niche gun but one (assuming it is a reliable gun) that fills that role very well. |
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Originally Posted By AFSOC_COP: I understand it will take Beretta Model 84 magazines. I’m actually thinking of getting one to keep for my older age when and if my hand strength goes to hell. In that, I think this has a very good market to those with weaker hand strength such and some women, younger shooters and the elderly. This is why I also don’t mind that it’s not the size of a Kel-Tec P3AT. It’s not designed to be an Uber-compact .380 for carrying in a Speedo. It’s designed to be an easy to load and shoot pistol. The compact pistols are easy to conceal but they are harder to shoot as well. You can’t use a 9mm or larger with this design as it requires a caliber that can be fired through a blowback action that lacks an extractor and the .380ACP fits this bill nicely. Yes, it’s a niche gun but one (assuming it is a reliable gun) that fills that role very well. Originally Posted By AFSOC_COP: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Gopher: This looks interesting but I wish it wasn't so big. https://eaacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/MC14-T-Front-New-Grip.png What mags does it take? I understand it will take Beretta Model 84 magazines. I’m actually thinking of getting one to keep for my older age when and if my hand strength goes to hell. In that, I think this has a very good market to those with weaker hand strength such and some women, younger shooters and the elderly. This is why I also don’t mind that it’s not the size of a Kel-Tec P3AT. It’s not designed to be an Uber-compact .380 for carrying in a Speedo. It’s designed to be an easy to load and shoot pistol. The compact pistols are easy to conceal but they are harder to shoot as well. You can’t use a 9mm or larger with this design as it requires a caliber that can be fired through a blowback action that lacks an extractor and the .380ACP fits this bill nicely. Yes, it’s a niche gun but one (assuming it is a reliable gun) that fills that role very well. 
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Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:  Fixed  I don't care if they're reliable. I don't care if the warranty and service is great. It's like they have outdone themselves to make their standard ugly gun even uglier I say that as a Glock shooter so I obviously have no aesthetic taste 
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That thing is so hideous it gives an old Japanese Type 94 Nambu a run for the money! Call me a snob but I can’t touch a High Point without feeling dirty. 🤢 |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: Fixed I don't care if they're reliable. I don't care if the warranty and service is great. It's like they have outdone themselves to make their standard ugly gun even uglier I say that as a Glock shooter so I obviously have no aesthetic taste Originally Posted By DavidY: Fixed I don't care if they're reliable. I don't care if the warranty and service is great. It's like they have outdone themselves to make their standard ugly gun even uglier I say that as a Glock shooter so I obviously have no aesthetic taste I think they clean up a little if you throw checkered walnut on em and run GI 1911 mags: Attached File I do wish some of the Turkish Glock clones would run Glock mags, instead of SIG, Canik, or whatever else they're using. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I think they clean up a little if you throw checkered walnut on em and run GI 1911 mags: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84655/IMG_20231016_213007_137_jpg-3010844.JPG I do wish some of the Turkish Glock clones would run Glock mags, instead of SIG, Canik, or whatever else they're using. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By DavidY: Fixed I don't care if they're reliable. I don't care if the warranty and service is great. It's like they have outdone themselves to make their standard ugly gun even uglier I say that as a Glock shooter so I obviously have no aesthetic taste I think they clean up a little if you throw checkered walnut on em and run GI 1911 mags: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84655/IMG_20231016_213007_137_jpg-3010844.JPG I do wish some of the Turkish Glock clones would run Glock mags, instead of SIG, Canik, or whatever else they're using. That reminds me years ago when I dated a homely girl (strictly because the sex was awesome) and one day she dressed up in a sexy outfit
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Originally Posted By DavidY: That reminds me years ago when I dated a homely girl (strictly because the sex was awesome) and one day she dressed up in a sexy outfit Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By DavidY: Fixed I don't care if they're reliable. I don't care if the warranty and service is great. It's like they have outdone themselves to make their standard ugly gun even uglier I say that as a Glock shooter so I obviously have no aesthetic taste I think they clean up a little if you throw checkered walnut on em and run GI 1911 mags: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84655/IMG_20231016_213007_137_jpg-3010844.JPG I do wish some of the Turkish Glock clones would run Glock mags, instead of SIG, Canik, or whatever else they're using. That reminds me years ago when I dated a homely girl (strictly because the sex was awesome) and one day she dressed up in a sexy outfit Lol. |
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Picked this up last week. Trigger pull is awful, gauge says it's about 8 lbs, feels much heavier. It came without the mag disconnect, but the mainspring is heavy, definitely more than the standard 30 lbs. The optics cut is also trash. Front sight is canted left to right and fore and aft. Lockup is nice and tight though, not even a hint of movement in either the slide or the barrel. I'll take it to the range Friday, then it's getting cleaned up. |
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Originally Posted By November5: Picked this up last week. Trigger pull is awful, gauge says it's about 8 lbs, feels much heavier. It came without the mag disconnect, but the mainspring is heavy, definitely more than the standard 30 lbs. The optics cut is also trash. Front sight is canted left to right and fore and aft. Lockup is nice and tight though, not even a hint of movement in either the slide or the barrel. I'll take it to the range Friday, then it's getting cleaned up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173129/IMG_0616-3019035.jpg Wow. Personally I'd be more than a bit disappointed by all of that. I wonder if you just happened to get one that was built on a Friday afternoon, or if the defects are typical of this model? |
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Originally Posted By November5: Picked this up last week. Trigger pull is awful, gauge says it's about 8 lbs, feels much heavier. It came without the mag disconnect, but the mainspring is heavy, definitely more than the standard 30 lbs. The optics cut is also trash. Front sight is canted left to right and fore and aft. Lockup is nice and tight though, not even a hint of movement in either the slide or the barrel. I'll take it to the range Friday, then it's getting cleaned up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173129/IMG_0616-3019035.jpg I'd contact EAA if the slide cuts are messed up. The mainspring can be replaced, but you can't do anything with poorly machined sight or optics cuts. |
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Originally Posted By BobTheGreat: I'd contact EAA if the slide cuts are messed up. The mainspring can be replaced, but you can't do anything with poorly machined sight or optics cuts. Originally Posted By BobTheGreat: Originally Posted By November5: Picked this up last week. Trigger pull is awful, gauge says it's about 8 lbs, feels much heavier. It came without the mag disconnect, but the mainspring is heavy, definitely more than the standard 30 lbs. The optics cut is also trash. Front sight is canted left to right and fore and aft. Lockup is nice and tight though, not even a hint of movement in either the slide or the barrel. I'll take it to the range Friday, then it's getting cleaned up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/173129/IMG_0616-3019035.jpg I'd contact EAA if the slide cuts are messed up. The mainspring can be replaced, but you can't do anything with poorly machined sight or optics cuts. |