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1/31/2020 5:51:09 PM EDT


Test Gun: Ruger LCP
Barrel length: 2.75 inches.
Ammunition: Federal .380 ACP 99gr HST.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 967fps
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

https://generalcartridge.wordpress.com/2020/01/31/federal-380-acp-99gr-hst-in-clear-ballistics-gel/
1/31/2020 7:13:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Thank you for performing this test.  I was surprised as to how well this round did out of a pocket LCP after being underwhelmed by what ShootingTheBull410 tested.  Given that it had adequate penetration through heavy clothing while expanding much larger than expected, I think it's a contender with XTP rounds.  Classic HST performance.  Your work is greatly appreciated.
1/31/2020 9:58:35 PM EDT
[#2]
The velocity was higher than expected which probably helps the HST performance.  Thanks for posting!
2/1/2020 12:44:42 AM EDT
[#3]
That is damn impressive for .380
2/1/2020 8:10:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: psegnatelli][Edited] [#4]
I think Federal might have fixed this load. Look at the pics from the Lucky Gunner testAttached File

And look at OPs pic
Attached File

They look different to me. Bigger hole.

Also LuckyGunner averaged 893Fps in Glock
Op averaged 967Fps in a LCP.

If this is the norm now I'd gladly carry HST.

Thanks 5pins!
2/1/2020 8:20:08 AM EDT
[#5]
That's a good catch they do look different.
2/1/2020 10:19:17 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By 5pins:
That's a good catch they do look different.
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Thanks!  I suprised myself sometimes.

My 1st thought was.  Why such a difference between your test and previous tests?
2/1/2020 11:35:31 AM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for the results!

That must be a pretty snappy load from the LCP with that velocity?
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.- Richard Dawkins
2/1/2020 1:12:43 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Thanks for the results!

That must be a pretty snappy load from the LCP with that velocity?
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Yes it was.
2/1/2020 8:34:42 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By psegnatelli:
I think Federal might have fixed this load. Look at the pics from the Lucky Gunner testhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/124413/bb42c3dcd0aa6faf03bfb038cfccda65_jpg-1258204.JPG
And look at OPs pic
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/124413/20200129_110113-e1580319318228_jpg-1258205.JPG
They look different to me. Bigger hole.

Also LuckyGunner averaged 893Fps in Glock
Op averaged 967Fps in a LCP.

If this is the norm now I'd gladly carry HST.

Thanks 5pins!
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Lucky gunner, through some type of voodoo magic, managed to get a load that over expands and under penetrates in every test, to fail to expand AT ALL. They screwed something up.
2/2/2020 10:32:52 AM EDT
[#10]
Pretty good results, I hadn't considered these since luckygunner and ShootingTheBull410 both had poor results with their tests. It appears federal revised the design.
2/2/2020 10:56:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: j97531][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By psegnatelli:
I think Federal might have fixed this load. Look at the pics from the Lucky Gunner testhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/124413/bb42c3dcd0aa6faf03bfb038cfccda65_jpg-1258204.JPG
And look at OPs pic
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/124413/20200129_110113-e1580319318228_jpg-1258205.JPG
They look different to me. Bigger hole.

Also LuckyGunner averaged 893Fps in Glock
Op averaged 967Fps in a LCP.

If this is the norm now I'd gladly carry HST.

Thanks 5pins!
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For additional data.
@46F and 666 ASL, 904 FPS for 7 shots of Hornady Critical Defense FTX 90gr out of LCP-II.  ES 31, SD 12.0 measured with labradar.
The FTX actually were painful to shoot, that HST is going to take it up a notch.  I picked the FTX because of the past issues with the HST.  I really appreciate you posting this thread and bringing the change to my attention.  Even though it appears I need tougher hands....

ETA : Also the format of the blog is much less painful than forcing me to watch youtube.
2/2/2020 12:51:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Gotta be easier on the hands than what I'm using now.  
Underwood +p XTP.

The RM380 handled them very well.  Bit of a handful in my P3AT.
2/2/2020 1:52:59 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By Linc5870:
Thank you for performing this test.  I was surprised as to how well this round did out of a pocket LCP after being underwhelmed by what ShootingTheBull410 tested.  Given that it had adequate penetration through heavy clothing while expanding much larger than expected, I think it's a contender with XTP rounds.  Classic HST performance.  Your work is greatly appreciated.
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Shooting the bull uses organic gel. The results wont be the same.
"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
2/4/2020 9:21:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm getting ready to try these out in a newly acquired Rock Island Baby Rock .380 1911.

It's got a full inch more barrel than the LCP, so perhaps that'll help with ensuring consistent expansion.   I'm going to try some of these along with some Speer Gold Dots.

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