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7/19/2018 5:09:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pins][Edited]


Test Gun: Delta Elite
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Federal 10mm 180gr Hydra-Shok (P10HS1).
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens.
Five shot velocity average: 986fps
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

The latest installment in the 10mm is the Federal 180gr Hydra-Shok. I forgot to take a pic of the loaded ammo in front of the box and by the time I remembered I had shot up all the 20 rounds. I got an average velocity of 986fps with a high of 996 and a low of 980. I ended up shooting two five round groups at 10 yards because I lost the pic of the first five. Hence one of the reasons for running out of ammo for the box pic.



The first round in bare gel had a velocity of 995fps but exited the block at the 15-inch mark and was found on the floor next to me. For some reason, it took a left turn in the block and lost a small piece of the jacket at the 10.5-inch mark. It expanded to .71 inches. Round two hit the block at 990 fps and also penetrated to 15 inches and expanded to .68 inches and stayed in the block. The third round (I wanted to catch two in the block) impacted at 981fps, it to penetrated to 15 inches with a recovered diameter of .69 inches.



In the heavy clothing covered gel the first round penetrated to 20.75 inches and expanded to .55 inches with a velocity of 1003fps. Number two went a little deeper at 22.5 inches and expanded to .58 inches with a velocity of 990fps.



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7/20/2018 10:47:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER][Edited] [#1]
Looks like excellent results. I carried that load in my Delta many many years ago.

Do you remember if the bullet profile was rounded or the angular truncated cone style. I have seen and carried both styles. They came in the long skinny 20 round box...
7/20/2018 12:12:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Looks like excellent results. I carried that load in my Delta many many years ago.

Do you remember if the bullet profile was rounded or the angular truncated cone style. I have seen and carried both styles. They came in the long skinny 20 round box...
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More of a rounded.
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7/20/2018 12:26:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Seems like perfectly acceptable results for self-defense but at the same time it seem sort of slow for 10mm Auto.  I shoot 180 gr FMJ at ~950 fps from my 40S&W with a 5-inch barrel.  My 10mm loads are pushing 180gr XTP's to just shy of 1300fps from a 6.5-inch vented barrel (ie revolver).
7/21/2018 3:14:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcb:
Seems like perfectly acceptable results for self-defense but at the same time it seem sort of slow for 10mm Auto.  I shoot 180 gr FMJ at ~950 fps from my 40S&W with a 5-inch barrel.  My 10mm loads are pushing 180gr XTP's to just shy of 1300fps from a 6.5-inch vented barrel (ie revolver).
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I agree, I had 180gr HST hitting faster than this 10mm load out of a G22 the other day.
7/21/2018 11:21:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 5pins:

More of a rounded.
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OK. I believe the rounded bullet profile came after the TC profile.

This load is a classic example of a typical "Fed-light" load in 10MM back from the early 90's if I remember correctly. The 40SW came out to exactly duplicate this type of load.

OP, thanks again for sharing your results!
7/21/2018 10:42:14 PM EDT
[#6]
986fps is weak sauce. But, thanks for taking the time and effort to do what you do 5pins! It was hard finding a factory load with a good balance of penetration and expansion at true 10mm velocities. I ended up settling on the 200gr XTPs loaded by Underwood.
7/21/2018 11:07:49 PM EDT
[#7]
We need to start a petition or something to get an HST 180 made. I would carry 10mm if I could load it with HSTs.
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7/22/2018 1:26:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Good performance from the bullet !

Especially considering the age of the design.

And yup, neutered 10MM speeds... but still worked.
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7/22/2018 6:28:19 PM EDT
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When I did my test of this, I thought that it was pretty weak like the 40 Short & Weak so I had to check the magazine to make sure that there wasn't any 40 in there

My results were similar so not bad for defense against humans, not great for a woods gun against four legged threats.
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7/23/2018 3:22:42 PM EDT
[#10]
This is my beef with 10mm. Unless you're reloading your own, or buying from Sig/Underwood, you're buying 10mm ammo at .40 S&W velocities.

I've seen several ammo tests on Youtube where they chrono 180 grain .40 loads at over 1,000 fps from guns like the G22/35.
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