Posted: 4/14/2026 8:16:23 AM EDT
| Has the VP9 gone out of vogue or are they still G2G? Local place is selling a couple of slow sellers (FDE frame VP9s) for about $650 plus tax. Like the fit and feel of it way better than most poly frame pistols. |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Good gun. I like mine a lot. But H&K in general is a slow seller. Around here they just don’t move. Many dealers don’t bother stocking them. I know two that stock them and they have been sitting on inventory for eons. My guess is that this dealer is selling under cost to get them gone. German DE marked guns with 3 mags and night sights…figure dealer cost was $700ish when he got them. They finally sold the OD guns but have a couple of FDE ones lingering….I actually like them better.  damn….
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I very much like the VP9 optic ready and the VP9 L optic ready. Extremely accurate. Great choices. (I tend not to like 9 mm) Places that sell them here have not gotten any recently. I also like the P30 and HK45 - if you look how the slide is designed you can see that the pins would have to be modified to do an optic cut. The CC9 shoots way better than other similar size pistols and EPS Carry direct mounts without a plate. H&K is slow getting into the game but when they do something they get it right. CZ also makes a fine pistol. FN …. Not so much |
| I got into VP9s years ago and really liked them. I haven't kept up with their new versions and naming though to know what's what anymore. It seems they've gone up in pricing which might impact sales? That used to be one of the good things about the VP9 was they were less expensive as their other models. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: IDK? I'm scratching my head about why they still don't offer optics ready P30's? I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By airgunner: IDK? I'm scratching my head about why they still don't offer optics ready P30's? I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. Only HK could come up with the logic of producing 7 different lines of pistols at the same time but refuse to improve any of the 3 hammer fired ones even though they have not done anything to them since 2006. Yet the person who buys a hammer fired gun is actually in a different market than a striker, but MBAs wouldn't get that. Strikers: VP9 +sk VP9A1 +K +X VP9CC CC9 Hammer: USP +Compact +Experts(but not in .40, the one you would actually use for USPSA limited which is why they are now over $1700 on GB lol) P30 +L +SK HK45 +C IMO they should discontinue the regular VP9, VP9sk, and P30s. The VP9A1 blows the original out of the water. Come out with an HK45A1, HK9A1, and HK10A1 that are all optics ready and have a compact option. BUT NOOOOO Oh and they discontinued the P2000 and the SKs, the best modern Glock 19 and 26 sized hammer fired CCW guns that were offered this century. If anyone from HK is reading this, I am available for consulting work. 
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. I still think if they put a Picatinny rail, front cocking serrations, and an optic mount in the USP it would outsell the P30 by a ton. They seem to be trying to create “the next big thing” and abandoning development of their existing products is a foolish approach to it. They forget we’re Americans and we don’t want just one gun. |
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I wanted to like it. My first foray into strikers was the PPQ and I didn’t mesh great with it. The VP9 feels great in my hand. And I have big hands so although I dislike paddle mag release, I could reach it okayish. But, the paddles don’t quite sit flush to the trigger guard. So the left one pokes my finger when the trigger breaks. HK was quite responsive and sent me an extra set to replace them. Didn’t change anything. So I filed them down as much as I dared. And it still pokes.  I do shoot it pretty well. At least slow fire. Rapid fire I tend to track up and right, instead of a nice predictable rise and fall. But that’s just how I interface with it; I don’t imagine the gun inherently does that for everyone.  Anyway, there’s a ton of great options on the market. There’s nothing that really sets the VP9 apart (or any of them really). They’re all just titling barrel, locked breech, polymer framed, striker fired, magazine fed, semiautomatic, (mostly) 9mm pistols. The differences between them are really quite minute. |
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Originally Posted By ducati: When you insert a mag the paddles drop down to the correct position. Except they don’t on mine. This was found during live fire, which necessitates a mag. I even store it with a mag mostly inserted trying to make the spring set. No joy. |
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Originally Posted By tightlines49: I guess the VP9cc with the optic package os $1,400+. i am supposedly first on the waitlist, that was a couple of days ago and I don’t think there’s a second yet. That’s full MSRP. Dealer cost is CONSIDERABLY lower. Expect a street price of 1150. Maybe even 1075. |
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Originally Posted By leib109: I love the VP9 series. I plan on carrying the VP9CC when it comes out and I use a VP9A1F for competition and home defense. |
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Originally Posted By txgunguy: Looking forward to the vp9cc as well. Only thing I can't stand is the pic rail. Every company puts a pic rail on their micro 9. It's just ridiculous. Isn’t there photos of it without the rail? |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: Isn’t there photos of it without the rail? Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By txgunguy: Looking forward to the vp9cc as well. Only thing I can't stand is the pic rail. Every company puts a pic rail on their micro 9. It's just ridiculous. Isn’t there photos of it without the rail? https://us.hkwebshop.com/hkstorefront/hk/en/Handgun-Parts/Frame-Parts/VP9CC-Grip/p/50257861 |
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Originally Posted By BuddyChryst: I wanted to like it. My first foray into strikers was the PPQ and I didn’t mesh great with it. The VP9 feels great in my hand. And I have big hands so although I dislike paddle mag release, I could reach it okayish. But, the paddles don’t quite sit flush to the trigger guard. So the left one pokes my finger when the trigger breaks. HK was quite responsive and sent me an extra set to replace them. Didn’t change anything. So I filed them down as much as I dared. And it still pokes. https://i.postimg.cc/FRMdjB1j/IMG-2774.jpg I do shoot it pretty well. At least slow fire. Rapid fire I tend to track up and right, instead of a nice predictable rise and fall. But that’s just how I interface with it; I don’t imagine the gun inherently does that for everyone. https://i.postimg.cc/4dD02jhb/IMG-2749.jpg Anyway, there’s a ton of great options on the market. There’s nothing that really sets the VP9 apart (or any of them really). They’re all just titling barrel, locked breech, polymer framed, striker fired, magazine fed, semiautomatic, (mostly) 9mm pistols. The differences between them are really quite minute. Had that same paddle release poking my finger issue, trimmed it down as well. That really isn't an ideal setup. It's grip angle isn't as aggressive as Glock or the Glock clones, its more expensive, and tries to be ergonomic in ways that still result in adjustments that frequently don't quite work. It's not better enough to warrant a lot of popularity. Good gun, but amidst a field of good or better modern wondernines, it's not going to be super popular. |
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Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Had that same paddle release poking my finger issue, trimmed it down as well. That really isn't an ideal setup. It's grip angle isn't as aggressive as Glock or the Glock clones, its more expensive, and tries to be ergonomic in ways that still result in adjustments that frequently don't quite work. It's not better enough to warrant a lot of popularity. Good gun, but amidst a field of good or better modern wondernines, it's not going to be super popular. I’ve been vocal for awhile now that all these guns trying to replicate the Glock 19’s recoil spring weight to slide mass ratio is a no go without the Glock grip angle. Love it or hate it, the Glock grip angle is what makes that recipe work. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I’ve been vocal for awhile now that all these guns trying to replicate the Glock 19’s recoil spring weight to slide mass ratio is a no go without the Glock grip angle. Love it or hate it, the Glock grip angle is what makes that recipe work. Agreed. I've seen people who could limp wrist a Beretta 92 have zero issues with Glock due to that grip angle (and bore axis). The VP9 is unfortunately doing everything right if it existed without competition. Which it does not. Maybe the Steyr M9 would compete based on its grip angle and grip design... but HK didn't make that, either. Though maybe they are throwing about as much into marketing as Steyr does. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. Besides how are the VP9CC and CC9 are not stealing sales from each other? |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: This is so ridiculous. There are die hard hammer fired guys and die hard striker guys. I might buy both, but if they killed the P30, I'm not buying a VP9 instead. Besides how are the VP9CC and CC9 are not stealing sales from each other? I imagine the CC9 dying off. They killed off the SK guns because their new micros were coming |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:I imagine the CC9 dying off. They killed off the SK guns because their new micros were coming If they kill off the USP and P30, HK will be dead to me. I suspect I'm not alone. Killing their hammer guns will not generate more interest in the brand. It will alienate a bunch of long time loyal customers though. |
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The VP9 and P30, to which I have owned both in the past, were two pistols that felt superb one-handed, but when it came to a two-handed grip I struggled to connect to the frame and get a solid grip. To this day, they are still the only two pistols where I can really say I had an issue with that. That said, the P30L I had (an LEM and a V3) were very accurate and well made. Detail stripping both was an adventure and the attention to detail in the assembly is remarkable. I moved over to a Beretta 92 and it was the right move for me. Would love to see a modern USP. One that is akin to the Langdon Berettas would be something. Optic cut work such as the i-dot from Wright Armory or Langdon's RDO cut exist for the USP, so there are people out there who are interested HK! I feel as though HK needs to go pick up a copy of Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six and remember where they came from. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: That makes more sense than killing the P30 because they think it's stealing VP9 sales. If they kill off the USP and P30, HK will be dead to me. I suspect I'm not alone. Killing their hammer guns will not generate more interest in the brand. It will alienate a bunch of long time loyal customers though. If they kill off the CC9 I’ll be pissed. The VP9CC feels like a blocky bar of soap compared to the CC9. |
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Originally Posted By KissMethod17:Would love to see a modern USP. One that is akin to the Langdon Berettas would be something. Optic cut work such as the i-dot from Wright Armory or Langdon's RDO cut exist for the USP, so there are people out there who are interested HK! I feel as though HK needs to go pick up a copy of Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six and remember where they came from. OTOH, I just recently got a USP Compact. After doing a Light LEM conversion and a little trigger tuning, I really like this handgun better than my P30s or full size USPs. I'm going to need to send it out to Langdon or Wright for a red dot. The Compact is a really good gun and deserves a good optic. I do wish HK would sell spare optic ready slides like Glock does. That would give USP and P30 owners the best of both worlds. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:If they kill off the CC9 I’ll be pissed. The VP9CC feels like a blocky bar of soap compared to the CC9. The way HK has been going, I wouldn't be surprised if one of these guns will get killed off in a few years, at least in the US market. It will be interesting to see which one. Either way, a lot of folks will be grabbing their torches and pitchforks. |
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier: VP9 is far superior to glock  Glocks are OK. They are reliable, simple, easy to work on, and relatively cheap due to economy of scale. They are only as popular as they are because Cop Gun. I prefer guns with better ergonomics. |
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier: VP9 is far superior to glock If you’re going off a spec sheet, yes. If you’re going off time/hit metrics, no. I’ve owned both. All pistols have their strengths and weaknesses. I’d say the only real weakness the VP9 has is the most important. That being how it shoots. |
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Originally Posted By Pointman91: I rarely shoot my G19 since picking up a VP9, I just shoot the HK much better for whatever reason. I do and I don’t want to try out a VP9 for this reason. I’ve wanted to try one out since last year when a good friend bought one after shooting multiple rentals in search of a carry gun. My buddy is borderline OCD in his particulars with handguns. For him to go with a VP9 and talk it up like he does says a lot to me. My wife and I both have G19’s for carry and between us there’s close to 2 dozen magazines and multiple holsters. Mine is the MOS version with a Trijicon. Finding out that I’d like a VP9 better would be a negative for all the money spent on that platform. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI:My wife and I both have G19’s for carry and between us there’s close to 2 dozen magazines and multiple holsters. Mine is the MOS version with a Trijicon. Finding out that I’d like a VP9 better would be a negative for all the money spent on that platform. Everything for the VP9 will be more expensive. Price HK mags vs Glock mags sometime. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: Plus everything for the Glock is relatively cheap. Everything for the VP9 will be more expensive. Price HK mags vs Glock mags sometime. Very true but not a deal breaker for me. I lucked out and found a six pack of NIW mags on the EE for a really good deal. |
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I just picked up a VP9L OR slide kit for my OG VP 9. I carried an SK in FDE for several years before switching to a M&P Shield. I shot the hell out of the SK in IDPA for a long time, then switched to the full size when I got it. I really wanted an FDE full size but could never find one. I got the L OR slide kit because: 1) it may be time to switch to an optic rather than irons 2) I don’t shoot much IDPA anymore, and the slide length doesn’t matter much in GPA or PCSL. The VP9 line fits my hand well, I shoot them better than my CZs and Glocks, and I don’t mind the paddle mag release. |
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I was invested in glock world for decades. Bought a VP9 last year liked it. Then I bought 2 VP9 Tactical pistols with optics. Hooked now sold all glocks except one. Still have magazines and holsters for it. Bought magazines and holsters for them. Bought P30 also and like it a lot since installing the Gray Guns trigger and springs. Then I bought a CC9 holsters and magazines. Really like it and carry it whenever I can. Practice with it and handles well and accurate. Don't be afraid to try HK. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By airgunner: IDK? I'm scratching my head about why they still don't offer optics ready P30's? I asked HK about this and about a P30 match or “Elite” setup. They didn’t want it to take sales away from the VP9. They viewed the VP9 and P30 as competitors. Ford Ranger vs Ford Maverick |
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The more plastic fantastic I get, the more I realize there is very very little difference between them. They’re all doing the same thing, mostly the same way. Differences between them are very minute and come down to personal preferences. I have big hands and keep running into issues with triggers. The VP9’s mag release paddles stick up just enough to poke my finger when the trigger breaks. The CZ P-10 pinches my finger between the trigger and the frame when it breaks. So I happen to prefer the 509, P320, and PPQ triggers. But then I don’t like the PPQ sights and additional perceived recoil. The VP9 is nice because of the very customizable grip panel options. But let’s be real, grip feel really doesn’t matter that much. It’s not like you’re holding the pistol for 8 hours a day and really need some ergonomic thing to avoid strain. Ultimately, I had to liquidate some of my pistols to pay some bills, the first 3 out would probably be the CZ, PPQ, and VP9. But I don’t particularly dislike any of them, or I would’ve already gotten rid of them. |
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Love my VP9s - have 5 right now if different flavors including 2 ORs and 1 TOR. I kinda want a new X Tactical, but it’s damn near the same gun minus finger grooves after I’d get done doing my standard customization of it (new trigger etc) Not exactly sure why they ditched the finger grooves. |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: Love my VP9s - have 5 right now if different flavors including 2 ORs and 1 TOR. I kinda want a new X Tactical, but it’s damn near the same gun minus finger grooves after I’d get done doing my standard customization of it (new trigger etc) Not exactly sure why they ditched the finger grooves. I did not realize I was building a X Tactical, but somehow did. lol Attached File |
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