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5/28/2026 10:39:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zakk_Wylde_470][Edited]
Now we have a Springfield MC Operator at home to go with our Colt M45A1 at home

5/29/2026 12:07:41 AM EDT
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Avant has butfucked Bud's links... try taking out the space after the : in this line

https: //www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/411562268/buds+exclusive+tisas+1911+duty+mco+.45+acp+5+blackgreen+8+1

Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
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6/7/2026 11:30:50 AM EDT
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Hoping for a pro clone
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6/7/2026 11:55:23 AM EDT
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6/8/2026 8:19:01 PM EDT
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What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA and without the front cocking serrations?  

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.
6/9/2026 7:13:29 AM EDT
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What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA?

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Hoping for a pro clone




What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA?

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.


That, black barrel with stainless bushing, stainless three hole trigger, and recessed slide stop (last one might be too much to ask for). Oh, and no dumb roll marks on either side of the slide.
6/9/2026 7:16:12 AM EDT
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Looks like the MC Operator I bought when I got back from Iraq in 06.
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6/9/2026 7:50:31 AM EDT
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The Duty Enhanced is working towards Pro territory but no railed or black version yet. So that one would probably be pretty easy for them.

I’d like to see them do a full rail Operator variant, and a Devel Combat Commander clone. Or any enhanced classic commanders. The JSOC was pretty highly regarded so I’m not the only one who likes the modified classic approach.

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6/11/2026 2:28:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:




What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA and without the front cocking serrations?  

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
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What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA and without the front cocking serrations?  

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.


Thats pretty much it. You can see what im so frustrated
And really its only because I dont think the jsoc would fit in my holsters.
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6/11/2026 2:34:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:
The Duty Enhanced is working towards Pro territory but no railed or black version yet. So that one would probably be pretty easy for them.

I’d like to see them do a full rail Operator variant, and a Devel Combat Commander clone. Or any enhanced classic commanders. The JSOC was pretty highly regarded so I’m not the only one who likes the modified classic approach.

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Yeah, id be happy with a duty enhanced with a black frame and tritium/gold bead front.
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6/11/2026 6:55:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin][Edited] [#10]
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:




What would it really be other than essentially the MAC JSOC with a Novak rear instead of the low mounted LPA and without the front cocking serrations?  

Not trying to be argumentative. I'm actually asking.
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Cosmetic makeover doesn't make it to the league of the PROs. Tisas needs to actually hard fit barrel/bushing and tune everything that shoots Golden Saber ammos reliably and accurately before claim its own version of PRO.

Most importantly, Tisas need to reintroduce MIM slide stop and casted thumb safety and magwell as used by SAI PROs.
6/11/2026 6:55:52 PM EDT
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Who knows?  Maybe Tisas USA will pick up where MAC is leaving off?  

The JSOC and MUESOC were made by Tisas but also marketed under MAC.  Will MAC still be able to work with Tisas to make these special tribute guns or will they simply be seen as not profitable by Tisas USA?  

Tisas seems to be moving to sort of a MAC model with the double stack guns.  The current pics of Tisas USA guns look more like the MAC DS than they do the old Tisas Duty or Carry models.  

6/11/2026 6:59:28 PM EDT
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Cosmetic makeover doesn't make it to the league of the PROs. Tisas needs to actually hard fit barrel/bushing and tune everything...
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I don't see that happening.  It doesn't really fit the business model.  With that said, it could possibly be worked through a distributor.  But even then I don't know if anyone would likey pay the resultant price.
6/11/2026 7:30:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Who knows?  Maybe Tisas USA will pick up where MAC is leaving off?  

The JSOC and MUESOC were made by Tisas but also marketed under MAC.  Will MAC still be able to work with Tisas to make these special tribute guns or will they simply be seen as not profitable by Tisas USA?  

Tisas seems to be moving to sort of a MAC model with the double stack guns.  The current pics of Tisas USA guns look more like the MAC DS than they do the old Tisas Duty or Carry models.  

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So are the MAC 1911s going away too? SDImports still owns the MAC name right?
6/11/2026 8:23:39 PM EDT
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That would be my guess unless SDS/MAC can find another 1911 manufacturer to work with.
6/11/2026 10:09:48 PM EDT
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I don't see that happening.  It doesn't really fit the business model.  With that said, it could possibly be worked through a distributor.  But even then I don't know if anyone would likey pay the resultant price.
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I though so too. My point is to those who want a SAI Pro look-a-like appearance that the existing black finished Tisas already fit the category loosely. Lack of the tune and hard fit custom gun, it is nothing but a Tisas Duty already existed. No point of another SKU. SAI Pro didn't really have any distinct cosmetic feature to separate out it from many other modern 1911. It was special because of the custom 1911 won the high profile trial and adoption by FBI.
6/13/2026 9:55:43 AM EDT
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I don't see that happening.  It doesn't really fit the business model.  With that said, it could possibly be worked through a distributor.  But even then I don't know if anyone would likey pay the resultant price.
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The Match (RRA clone) allegedly had every part hand fit. They went for $800 before SDS stopped importing them. Some lucky SOB’s got them for $600 on clearance.

They make them, they just aren’t offered here.

Not the best you can get but certainly has some considerable extra attention to detail. Especially at $800. (Photo I found but he changed the guide rod.)
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6/13/2026 12:05:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:

The Match (RRA clone) allegedly had every part hand fit. They went for $800 before SDS stopped importing them. Some lucky SOB's got them for $600 on clearance.

They make them, they just aren't offered here.

Not the best you can get but certainly has some considerable extra attention to detail. Especially at $800. (Photo I found but he changed the guide rod.)
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RRA what. It's a Tisas Match, PERIOD! A good gun from Tisas don't need to be crowned as somebody else's clone!
6/13/2026 3:31:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:

The Match (RRA clone) allegedly had every part hand fit. They went for $800 before SDS stopped importing them. Some lucky SOB’s got them for $600 on clearance.

They make them, they just aren’t offered here.

Not the best you can get but certainly has some considerable extra attention to detail. Especially at $800. (Photo I found but he changed the guide rod.)
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61399/IMG_5809_webp-3777978.JPG

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Undoubtedly a nice gun especially for the money.  But I just don't think Tisas' main market is interested in guns at that price.  

With that said, the brand has developed a solid reputation over the last few years so maybe a more hand-fit pistol would sell better now than a few years ago.
6/14/2026 9:28:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:


Undoubtedly a nice gun especially for the money.  But I just don't think Tisas' main market is interested in guns at that price.  

With that said, the brand has developed a solid reputation over the last few years so maybe a more hand-fit pistol would sell better now than a few years ago.
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:

The Match (RRA clone) allegedly had every part hand fit. They went for $800 before SDS stopped importing them. Some lucky SOB’s got them for $600 on clearance.

They make them, they just aren’t offered here.

Not the best you can get but certainly has some considerable extra attention to detail. Especially at $800. (Photo I found but he changed the guide rod.)
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61399/IMG_5809_webp-3777978.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61399/IMG_5810_webp-3777982.JPG


Undoubtedly a nice gun especially for the money.  But I just don't think Tisas' main market is interested in guns at that price.  

With that said, the brand has developed a solid reputation over the last few years so maybe a more hand-fit pistol would sell better now than a few years ago.


I'd drop $800 on a Tisas Poorfessional in a heartbeat.
6/14/2026 9:43:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mlin:
RRA what. It's a Tisas Match, PERIOD! A good gun from Tisas don't need to be crowned as somebody else's clone!
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It’s literally a clone of the RRA Limited Match gun. Just like this is a thread about their clone of the MC Operator. And we have a thread about their M45 clone. And their MEUSOC Clone. And their JSOC clone.

You’ll be okay. People appreciate that they’re cloning so many guns for cheap. It’s a good thing, but they are very clearly clones.

Heck, I’m hoping with all of my heart they make a full rail TRP Operator clone. I’ll happily call it a clone while I shoot the snot out of it and enjoy every second of it. It will sit right next to my M45 clone.

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