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4/5/2026 3:18:11 PM EDT
[#1]
It's better than no gun.

But I won't be carrying one over my FN509 any time soon
4/5/2026 4:59:06 PM EDT
[#2]
For (more or less) $378.00, I'm happy with my .32 S&W Magnum Undercoverette. Surprisingly, it can "carry the weight of a .38" with an extra round in the cylinder—either that, or my S&W Airweight Centennial (also in .32 H&R Magnum).

Both are convenient, lightweight, and when called upon, can punch a substantial hole.

Works for me.

4/5/2026 5:08:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Anyone own a Diamondback SDR?
4/5/2026 9:28:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Anyone own a Diamondback SDR?
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I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

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I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.
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4/5/2026 9:33:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:


I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:
Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy: Anyone own a Diamondback SDR?


I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.


Heard they take J frame grips?
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4/5/2026 11:36:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Those SDRs do look pretty great. Hoping to run across one to try out sometime soon. I'm a S&W and Colt guy, but if they work, they work!
4/6/2026 1:16:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dump1567:
Everyone's Favorite, Mas Ayoob. Love him, hate him, your choice. But he's been in the industry forever and has seen some things. Interesting that he hasn't been impressed with the .32 H&R in the shootings he's seen.  And he still prefers the Speer 135 GD +P in .38.  He also carries wheel guns mostly as back-ups (as do I).


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Obsolete ?  in what role?  As a primary carry or duty gun in a belt holster ? Yes.

As back up or for pocket /unconventional carry ? No.

Snub revolvers are a niche item.  Their shape and form factor are great for pocket or unconventional carry. Within their limits they are superior to small autos in this role. Their shaped carries and conceal as well, and the form factor permits things like multiple contact shots, firing from inside of pocket, etc..

Snub revolvers are very much “nice things to have when you’re not actually carrying a real gun”  and they are very much “get out of trouble guns” not “go look for trouble” guns.

But within their appropriate roles and limitations, they are still viable.
4/6/2026 7:12:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HCM3156:


Obsolete ?  in what role?  As a primary carry or duty gun in a belt holster ? Yes.

As back up or for pocket /unconventional carry ? No.

Snub revolvers are a niche item.  Their shape and form factor are great for pocket or unconventional carry. Within their limits they are superior to small autos in this role. Their shaped carries and conceal as well, and the form factor permits things like multiple contact shots, firing from inside of pocket, etc..

Snub revolvers are very much “nice things to have when you’re not actually carrying a real gun”  and they are very much “get out of trouble guns” not “go look for trouble” guns.

But within their appropriate roles and limitations, they are still viable.
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Pretty sure the whole point of civilian concealed carry was to get out of trouble not looking for it.
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4/6/2026 8:34:52 AM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:

I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:
Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Anyone own a Diamondback SDR?

I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.


Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.
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4/6/2026 8:36:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


Pretty sure the whole point of civilian concealed carry was to get out of trouble not looking for it.
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
Originally Posted By HCM3156:


Obsolete ?  in what role?  As a primary carry or duty gun in a belt holster ? Yes.

As back up or for pocket /unconventional carry ? No.

Snub revolvers are a niche item.  Their shape and form factor are great for pocket or unconventional carry. Within their limits they are superior to small autos in this role. Their shaped carries and conceal as well, and the form factor permits things like multiple contact shots, firing from inside of pocket, etc..

Snub revolvers are very much “nice things to have when you’re not actually carrying a real gun”  and they are very much “get out of trouble guns” not “go look for trouble” guns.

But within their appropriate roles and limitations, they are still viable.


Pretty sure the whole point of civilian concealed carry was to get out of trouble not looking for it.


A lot of people did not get the memo
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4/6/2026 9:19:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevenH:


Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.
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That's what I thought...very k6 looking
4/6/2026 9:48:38 AM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:

I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.
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I coonfingered one I found in a gun shop. I was impressed.
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4/6/2026 9:49:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevenH:

Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.
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That's the part that concerned me when I heard about these revolvers. Maybe they got the S&*t together. They are a good looking K6s copy.
4/6/2026 10:06:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Heard they take J frame grips?
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Yes, those are J frame Altamonts.

I have long hands, and I need that pinky purchase, and a bit more depth to get a good trigger purchase.
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4/6/2026 10:09:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.
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Like any manufacturer, I have seen a few reports of some issues with the new SDRs, but S&W and Ruger routinely allow absolute dog shit to pass QC and take customer's money.

Both of mine have been flawless. I would consider buying another, but I am revolver heavy now.

IIRC, I paid about $650 for these guns. Nothing comes close to that on the current market.

The 3 inch with 38 +P shoots like a dream.
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4/6/2026 11:37:10 AM EDT
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HKS speedloaders don't work well in mine. The factory rubber grips are too thick.
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Obsolete or not, I like snubbies.

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HKS speedloaders don't work well in mine. The factory rubber grips are too thick.


I can get them to work by inserting the rounds at a slight angle.  I have Altamont grips on mine.   The speed beez speed loaders for the .22 (model 43C) work great.
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4/12/2026 6:56:34 PM EDT
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I got to shoot my Ruger LCR 9mm this weekend and it was pretty great. 124 Gold Dots (non +P) averaged 1032 fps and it felt about like 158 grain non +P from an air weight J frame. 124 ball and Gold Dots shot right to the sights for me. I'm very happy with it and having a revolver that can use standard 9mm with better ballistics than .38s is pretty great.

The one negative is the moon clips from Ruger are pretty crappy and don't hold the rounds well. I will carry it loaded with a moon clip and carry a .32 speed strip loaded with 5 rounds of 9mm for the obligatory reload. I practice reloads but can't imagine having a chance to reload it during an encounter and if I did I can't imagine reloading more than once so I'm ok with just having 10 shots of premium 9mm hollow points when I can't conceal a larger pistol.
4/12/2026 7:05:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sharps54:  I got to shoot my Ruger LCR 9mm this weekend and it was pretty great. 124 Gold Dots (non +P) averaged 1032 fps and it felt about like 158 grain non +P from an air weight J frame. 124 ball and Gold Dots shot right to the sights for me. I'm very happy with it and having a revolver that can use standard 9mm with better ballistics than .38s is pretty great.

The one negative is the moon clips from Ruger are pretty crappy and don't hold the rounds well. I will carry it loaded with a moon clip and carry a .32 speed strip loaded with 5 rounds of 9mm for the obligatory reload. I practice reloads but can't imagine having a chance to reload it during an encounter and if I did I can't imagine reloading more than once so I'm ok with just having 10 shots of premium 9mm hollow points when I can't conceal a larger pistol.
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Skip the speed strip & reload from your primary's magazines.
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4/12/2026 7:25:35 PM EDT
[#19]
That would definitely work as well when carrying it as a BUG and to be fair I could still carry an 9mm 1911 Officer's Model mag instead of the speed strip when I don't have an auto.

There are times (t shirt and shorts) that I only carry a snubby AiWB or in a pocket. I find the rounded shape of the revolver is more comfortable and conceals much better AiWB than a semi auto do to my "done lap" disease.
4/12/2026 8:17:25 PM EDT
[#20]
I certainly hope not. I still like mine;  especially my 2nd spare magazine, the ported M&P 340 .357.

And like they say, you don’t want any of this smoke, so they are definitely not obsolete or irrelevant.

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4/12/2026 11:52:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:

Like any manufacturer, I have seen a few reports of some issues with the new SDRs, but S&W and Ruger routinely allow absolute dog shit to pass QC and take customer's money.

Both of mine have been flawless. I would consider buying another, but I am revolver heavy now.

IIRC, I paid about $650 for these guns. Nothing comes close to that on the current market.

The 3 inch with 38 +P shoots like a dream.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.

Like any manufacturer, I have seen a few reports of some issues with the new SDRs, but S&W and Ruger routinely allow absolute dog shit to pass QC and take customer's money.

Both of mine have been flawless. I would consider buying another, but I am revolver heavy now.

IIRC, I paid about $650 for these guns. Nothing comes close to that on the current market.

The 3 inch with 38 +P shoots like a dream.




Good to hear. I had no idea they were making revolvers until I started looking at Kimbers.  Still haven't seen one in real life to handle.

For the life of me I've never figured out why Smith hasn't brought back the Model 65 Lady Smith, it's about the perfect carry revolver that bridges the small J frame with an intermediate kinda snub, kinda duty size.  And with a one piece barrel and no lock, not that goofy two piece barrel; even better if it was Scandium framed.
4/13/2026 12:58:19 AM EDT
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What's funny is Dan Wesson's are prized for their two piece barrel.  Patent expires, Smith copies it, they're hated for it.
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4/13/2026 1:11:03 AM EDT
[#23]
Because of the two pieces or because of the ability to change barrels? My 360 works, but I would prefer a traditional barrel.
4/13/2026 1:50:16 AM EDT
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Dan Wessons had a reputation for accuracy w/ their tensioned barrels.
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4/13/2026 3:33:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevenH:


Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:
Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Anyone own a Diamondback SDR?

I own two of them. Both have been flawless. I think it's the best value on the market right now. A 6 round snubby with real sights.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432675/IMG_7870_jpeg-3741996.JPG

I have the 3 inch version in high polish. It's really easy to clean with the push button cylinder removal mechanism.


Interesting. Kinda looks like a Kimber. Their 380 and 9mms autos were pretty terrible.


Their 1911s are shitty too
4/14/2026 8:34:55 AM EDT
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Good to hear. I had no idea they were making revolvers until I started looking at Kimbers.  Still haven't seen one in real life to handle.

For the life of me I've never figured out why Smith hasn't brought back the Model 65 Lady Smith, it's about the perfect carry revolver that bridges the small J frame with an intermediate kinda snub, kinda duty size.  And with a one piece barrel and no lock, not that goofy two piece barrel; even better if it was Scandium framed.
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Smith needs a K frame fixed sight 3” Night Guard. They are making the new 386NG with 3” 7 shot IIRC

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Smith-and-Wesson-night-guards-are-back-/33-218415/?page=1
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4/14/2026 8:41:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Smith needs a K frame fixed sight 3” Night Guard. They are making the new 386NG with 3” 7 shot IIRC

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My understanding is that K and L frames aren’t much different. It’s not like you’d get this in the pocket anyway.
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4/15/2026 11:54:43 AM EDT
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My understanding is that K and L frames aren’t much different. It’s not like you’d get this in the pocket anyway.
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Smith needs a K frame fixed sight 3” Night Guard. They are making the new 386NG with 3” 7 shot IIRC

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Smith-and-Wesson-night-guards-are-back-/33-218415/?page=1



My understanding is that K and L frames aren’t much different. It’s not like you’d get this in the pocket anyway.



The K frames are slightly smaller, not much on paper, but like comparing other similar sized guns, it's subtle and you can tell the difference in the hand even though they use the same grips.  There's a difference in the way they balance in your hand and then there's the difference between the six and seven shot cylinders too.  They're definitely not pocket carry guns though, even in the "snub nosed" configurations

A six shot 3" K framed Night Guard should make an excellent carry gun for those of us who like revolvers.
4/15/2026 12:33:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:



The K frames are slightly smaller, not much on paper, but like comparing other similar sized guns, it's subtle and you can tell the difference in the hand even though they use the same grips.  There's a difference in the way they balance in your hand and then there's the difference between the six and seven shot cylinders too.  They're definitely not pocket carry guns though, even in the "snub nosed" configurations

A six shot 3" K framed Night Guard should make an excellent carry gun for those of us who like revolvers.
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I'd like to see one of those in .327 Federal Magnum. Controllable, sufficiently powerful, accurate... What's not to like?
4/15/2026 5:09:05 PM EDT
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I'd like to see one of those in .327 Federal Magnum. Controllable, sufficiently powerful, accurate... What's not to like?
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Originally Posted By CaptainO:
Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: The K frames are slightly smaller, not much on paper, but like comparing other similar sized guns, it's subtle and you can tell the difference in the hand even though they use the same grips.  There's a difference in the way they balance in your hand and then there's the difference between the six and seven shot cylinders too.  They're definitely not pocket carry guns though, even in the "snub nosed" configurations

A six shot 3" K framed Night Guard should make an excellent carry gun for those of us who like revolvers.


I'd like to see one of those in .327 Federal Magnum. Controllable, sufficiently powerful, accurate... What's not to like?


7-8 shot, expensive ammo, doesn't play to the revolver's remaining advantages...

The .327 Federal might be the ultimate revolver cartridge, but it arrived about a decade too late.
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4/17/2026 1:19:54 AM EDT
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Obsolete is a tricky word to explain purpose. Is a Model A ford obsolete? To go to on the interstate across state lines? Maybe, but to go from home to the carshow? Nope :-)

Since most gunfights end in far less than the 5, 6 or 7 rounds a "modern" revolver can hold, then no. But if a fight requires a lot of shooting and bulky time consuming use of speed loaders might keep you alive, then maybe they are obsolete.

Then again there's specific purposes where a revolver is a better choice. I fish south Florida's canals and carry a snubby S&W 624 as protection from mama gators and angry otters (don't laugh, look up otter attacks) and many hikers or hunters who can encounter dangerous game prefer big bore revolvers due to the more inherent reliability and bigger bore magnums a revolver brings to the issue.



4/17/2026 9:55:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gnappi: Obsolete is a tricky word to explain purpose. Is a Model A ford obsolete? To go to on the interstate across state lines? Maybe, but to go from home to the carshow? Nope :-)

Since most gunfights end in far less than the 5, 6 or 7 rounds a "modern" revolver can hold, then no. But if a fight requires a lot of shooting and bulky time consuming use of speed loaders might keep you alive, then maybe they are obsolete.

Then again there's specific purposes where a revolver is a better choice. I fish south Florida's canals and carry a snubby S&W 624 as protection from mama gators and angry otters (don't laugh, look up otter attacks) and many hikers or hunters who can encounter dangerous game prefer big bore revolvers due to the more inherent reliability and bigger bore magnums a revolver brings to the issue.
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Source?
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4/17/2026 10:33:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gnappi:
Obsolete is a tricky word to explain purpose. Is a Model A ford obsolete? To go to on the interstate across state lines? Maybe, but to go from home to the carshow? Nope :-)

Since most gunfights end in far less than the 5, 6 or 7 rounds a "modern" revolver can hold, then no. But if a fight requires a lot of shooting and bulky time consuming use of speed loaders might keep you alive, then maybe they are obsolete.

Then again there's specific purposes where a revolver is a better choice. I fish south Florida's canals and carry a snubby S&W 624 as protection from mama gators and angry otters (don't laugh, look up otter attacks) and many hikers or hunters who can encounter dangerous game prefer big bore revolvers due to the more inherent reliability and bigger bore magnums a revolver brings to the issue.



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A self defense shooting should not be a gunfight.
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4/17/2026 10:49:58 AM EDT
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A self defense shooting should not be a gunfight.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By gnappi: Obsolete is a tricky word to explain purpose. Is a Model A ford obsolete? To go to on the interstate across state lines? Maybe, but to go from home to the carshow? Nope :-)

Since most gunfights end in far less than the 5, 6 or 7 rounds a "modern" revolver can hold, then no. But if a fight requires a lot of shooting and bulky time consuming use of speed loaders might keep you alive, then maybe they are obsolete.

Then again there's specific purposes where a revolver is a better choice. I fish south Florida's canals and carry a snubby S&W 624 as protection from mama gators and angry otters (don't laugh, look up otter attacks) and many hikers or hunters who can encounter dangerous game prefer big bore revolvers due to the more inherent reliability and bigger bore magnums a revolver brings to the issue.


A self defense shooting should not be a gunfight.


The enemy gets a vote.  Sometimes they only bring a baseball bat, sometimes they bring Glocks w/ switches & AK pistols w/ 30 round mags.
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4/17/2026 11:43:25 AM EDT
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The enemy gets a vote.  Sometimes they only bring a baseball bat, sometimes they bring Glocks w/ switches & AK pistols w/ 30 round mags.
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When it comes to the capacity debate, I just run scenarios in my head.

1. Dicken's drill - 5 or 6 shot revolver, or 10+ semi-auto

2. Pawn shop murders were a guy walks in (blocking the only exit) and shoots the clerk while your head is buried in the gun case w/your back to the door. 5/6 shot revolver or 10+ semi-auto. This is a real scenario that happened in a Pawn shop I frequent. Clerk and unarmed customer were murdered. Luckily, I wasn't in the shop that day.

3. Active shooter at your local Walmart or grocery store. 5/6 shot revolver or 10+ semi-auto.

4. Road Rage incident with car following you. 5/6 shots or 10+ semi. This happened to a Youtuber who carried a 6 shot .327 Fed mag. After it, he felt the need to start carry an M&P in .40 S&W w/ 15 round mags in his vehicle.

5. Some guy wearing a hoody trying to unlock my front door and get in. 5/6 shot or semi-auto (I had a semi-auto). Turned out to be a confused elderly neighbor in a new housing tract where several of the homes look similar.

6. 3 dogs chasing a deer in my shooting area. One dog running towards me (luckily ran right pass and continued after the deer). I was ready to draw but didn't have to.

These are just some scenarios from real life. Some of which have happened to me. I feel more comfortable with 10+ (or 8+1 in 1911) in semi-auto, than 5/6 in a wheel gun. Having to reload isn't anything I really want to worry about. On rare occasions I will carry a wheel gun, but it's always backed up by another gun.

But everyone is free to pick what works best for them based on their life experience, and if it's 5/6 in a wheel gun, then great.

4/17/2026 11:55:45 AM EDT
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When it comes to the capacity debate, I just run scenarios in my head.

1. Dicken's drill - 5 or 6 shot revolver, or 10+ semi-auto

2. Pawn shop murders were a guy walks in (blocking the only exit) and shoots the clerk while your head is buried in the gun case w/your back to the door. 5/6 shot revolver or 10+ semi-auto. This is a real scenario that happened in a Pawn shop I frequent. Clerk and unarmed customer were murdered. Luckily, I wasn't in the shop that day.

3. Active shooter at your local Walmart or grocery store. 5/6 shot revolver or 10+ semi-auto.

4. Road Rage incident with car following you. 5/6 shots or 10+ semi. This happened to a Youtuber who carried a 6 shot .327 Fed mag. After it, he felt the need to start carry an M&P in .40 S&W w/ 15 round mags in his vehicle.

5. Some guy wearing a hoody trying to unlock my front door and get in. 5/6 shot or semi-auto (I had a semi-auto). Turned out to be a confused elderly neighbor in a new housing tract where several of the homes look similar.

6. 3 dogs chasing a deer in my shooting area. One dog running towards me (luckily ran right pass and continued after the deer). I was ready to draw but didn't have to.

These are just some scenarios from real life. Some of which have happened to me. I feel more comfortable with 10+ (or 8+1 in 1911) in semi-auto, than 5/6 in a wheel gun. Having to reload isn't anything I really want to worry about. On rare occasions I will carry a wheel gun, but it's always backed up by another gun.

But everyone is free to pick what works best for them based on their life experience, and if it's 5/6 in a wheel gun, then great.

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Based on your scenarios you don’t even need to carry a gun at all…


Every time I’ve had to draw I’ve never fired a round. So arguably I didn’t need ammo in my carry guns.


That said, a snub 22 in your pocket when you need it beats a  44 or Night vision ready SBR  home in the safe.
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4/17/2026 12:21:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


Based on your scenarios you don’t even need to carry a gun at all…


Every time I’ve had to draw I’ve never fired a round. So arguably I didn’t need ammo in my carry guns.


That said, a snub 22 in your pocket when you need it beats a  44 or Night vision ready SBR  home in the safe.
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I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.
4/19/2026 1:45:10 PM EDT
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I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.
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I agree. I have only seen one used in person ever and it was $600. Pass. If they were like $500 max I would get one with a clip draw for  summer shorts/tshirts weather. In my small town I would feel just fine with it. My summer gun is a 642 with clip draw as is.
4/19/2026 3:12:34 PM EDT
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I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:


Based on your scenarios you don’t even need to carry a gun at all…


Every time I’ve had to draw I’ve never fired a round. So arguably I didn’t need ammo in my carry guns.


That said, a snub 22 in your pocket when you need it beats a  44 or Night vision ready SBR  home in the safe.



I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.

Love my 351C was an awesome forgot to take the trash out/ practice gun. Never sees carry now that I have the 32 but still gets some range time. They’re just extra expensive for no reason. You can buy UCs for less money.
4/20/2026 8:26:31 AM EDT
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I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.
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@sandboxmedic I'll trade you mine for that 357 version of a snub you got....
"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
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4/20/2026 11:51:31 AM EDT
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@sandboxmedic I'll trade you mine for that 357 version of a snub you got....
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:



I just wish those 351s were more affordable (and I've never seen a used one for sale); I'd really like to have one with a Clipdraw on it.  My poors, around the house gun is my old LCP in my pocket.  No idea why the LCPII in .22LR is so expensive either.


@sandboxmedic I'll trade you mine for that 357 version of a snub you got....



I'd make that deal if I were you too.  LOL  Ironically after we talked about it you got me interested in that gun again and I've switched back to carrying it instead of my 642 while hiking, so this is your fault.  
4/20/2026 12:38:27 PM EDT
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32H&R with proper bullet selection gives reliable penetration. It also gives one more round over my 442. The sights on the UC make for a good enough upgrade to justify there extra cost imo regardless of what caliber you choose. All snubbies work well for ENT guns I’d rather have a commander or better in a gunfight but I can always have my 432/442.
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Ear, Nose and Throat guns?   My training must be out dated.
The only hyphenated names I like are cartridge names......30-06, 30-40, 38-55 etc.
4/20/2026 1:59:00 PM EDT
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“Obsolete” isn’t synonymous with “useless.” Revolvers didn’t magically become less deadly after the introduction of semi-autos.

The run of the mill crack head starting shit at the gas pump isn’t going gain any additional courage just because he sees me holding a J frame instead of a Glock.
4/20/2026 3:16:49 PM EDT
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I need to set an alarm so I can make the first "Are snub-nose revolvers obsolete in 2027" thread

I carry my J frame often since I can toss it in my pocket. Companies keep making millions of them.

Am I outgunned downtown against a dude with a switched glock, yep.
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Cometic Gasket
4/20/2026 4:29:57 PM EDT
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Taurus 856 Ultra lite. Maybe 19 oz loaded. 1791 Holster.

H&K Speedloaders, DeSantis second 6 pouches.

What's it good for? Carrying a gun when you really don't want to carry a gun. But also, FWIW, Florida didn't legalize the carry of semi auto pistols for security officers until 2006, so if you were an armed guard in Florida, you were most likely carrying a revolver. So, we had training in revolver carry. And also, there was a assault weapons ban for 10 years, and the AR-15 was expensive and unobtanium for a lot of people. But, we had us some shotguns.

Nowadays, you kids got Hi cap semi autos with optics and a flashlight, SBRs with lazers and night vision, rifle plates and all kinds of other goodies. We had our wheelguns. The homies had their modified Tec-9s, Uzis and MAc 10s and stuff.

We had guys on weed, coke, and crack. Y'all got guys on meth, Fent, and gawd only knows what kind of chemical stuff. Our generation, mostly straight. And no offense, but y'all, pretty much a bunch of f***!

Would I recommend a wheelgun for you? Probably not. But then, I wasn't dealing with some furrie, trantifa commie cat boy faggot on 15 different hits of something or other. Yeah, I'd say you probably need more than the average wheelgun could deliver, especially if you're not trained in how to use one.
You can't change yesterday, and tomorrow isn't guaranteed. Get your head together.
4/20/2026 8:02:09 PM EDT
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I'd make that deal if I were you too.  LOL  Ironically after we talked about it you got me interested in that gun again and I've switched back to carrying it instead of my 642 while hiking, so this is your fault.  
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Jerk
"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
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4/20/2026 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Jerk
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I'd make that deal if I were you too.  LOL  Ironically after we talked about it you got me interested in that gun again and I've switched back to carrying it instead of my 642 while hiking, so this is your fault.  


Jerk




4/21/2026 7:04:51 AM EDT
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Ear, Nose and Throat guns?   My training must be out dated.
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32H&R with proper bullet selection gives reliable penetration. It also gives one more round over my 442. The sights on the UC make for a good enough upgrade to justify there extra cost imo regardless of what caliber you choose. All snubbies work well for ENT guns I’d rather have a commander or better in a gunfight but I can always have my 432/442.



Ear, Nose and Throat guns?   My training must be out dated.

Daryl Bolke from American fighting revolver mentioned it in one of his training classes thought it was hilarious and pretty accurate. He said who he heard it from but I don’t recall.

Accuracy and contact
4/21/2026 1:30:01 PM EDT
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I need to set an alarm so I can make the first "Are snub-nose revolvers obsolete in 2027" thread

I carry my J frame often since I can toss it in my pocket. Companies keep making millions of them.

Am I outgunned downtown against a dude with a switched glock, yep.
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Are you often downtown, especially after dark or at 3AM in sketchy gang infested areas? If so, maybe think about something different. If not, carrying consistently is as important as the firearm. Any firearm at home is completely useless if you need a CCW weapon.
Liberals are a curious mix of communism and fascism, they want to destroy you but want to use your own money to do it.

I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
4/21/2026 7:37:39 PM EDT
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Not down town not gang infested they are an amazing always option.

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