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6/5/2026 11:27:22 PM EDT
JUST CURIOUS, DO ANY OF YOU CARRY A LESS THAN LETHAL FORCE OPTION? SEIING ALL THE CRAZY TEEN TAKEOVERS ON THE NEWS RECENTLY MADE ME NOTICE THAT MOST OF THEM APPEAR LIKE THEYCOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED INSTANTLY WITH A CAN OF PEPPER SPRAY. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT OC SPRAY IS EXTREMELY UNDERRATED. IT IS SOME PAINFUL SHI+ AND IVE SEEN A COUPLE BURST EMPTY A LARGE BUILDING FULL OF PEOPLE ALMOST INSTANTLY. FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AS AN INVESTIGATOR, I CARRIED A SMALL CAN IN MY POCKET ON DUTY. AS A LEO, THE WORST PART OF PEPPER SPRAY WAS THAT THE OFFICER THAT USED IT, USUALLY JUST BLASTED EVERYONE IN THE AREA INCLUDING THE OTHER OFFICERS.
6/6/2026 12:13:50 AM EDT
[#1]
my hands and feet?
6/6/2026 12:22:58 AM EDT
[#2]
Every time I eat beans and broccoli.
6/6/2026 12:30:38 AM EDT
[#3]
I keep a can of OC in my center console since I live in Albuquerque.
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6/6/2026 6:00:49 AM EDT
[#4]
I just yell really loud.


Sometimes I carry a .32 - that might be considered barely lethal.
6/6/2026 6:10:42 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By armoredman:
Every time I eat beans and broccoli.
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He said “less than lethal.”
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6/6/2026 6:44:15 AM EDT
[#6]
My employer gave me a "Stop what you're doing!" card.

I'm sure that'll work.
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6/6/2026 9:20:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M15A2CLE][Edited] [#7]
OC is the right spray, but carrying it plus a gun, plus medical, plus spare mag, plus knife, plus a pocket knife, plus a light, plus a backup gun. …..fml

It’s just too much crap.

I carry as an alternative in less permissive areas, or when I want to carry super light.

It’s negative is everyone is getting sprayed.
6/6/2026 9:30:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Nope.
6/6/2026 10:30:02 AM EDT
[#9]
I carry a powerful flashlight and a can of oc.  The light is only a distraction device in a dark environment and the oc is on the keychain, but the wind better be in the correct direction.
6/6/2026 1:57:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RogueSpear2023][Edited] [#10]
Hands and fists, to be honest your voice tone, and ability to talk to people is going to be your best defense. Being a CO I often have to talk stupid criminals out of doing stupid things.
6/6/2026 2:24:39 PM EDT
[#11]
lol no.
6/6/2026 3:13:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Why are we yelling?

I did recently carry this "sharpie" while in Mexico.  It is a g10 insert and made it through airport security twice..
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6/6/2026 3:43:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes, I carry a small POM spray, stream, and have used it with great success.

But why is the OP yelling at us?
6/6/2026 3:59:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Yeah, the circumstances where one has to rapidly use pepper spray rarely allow for a quick wind direction consideration.

It's still nice to have options. Me? Nope. But many here have told me my firearms choice is inadequate, so maybe it counts.

Based on your post, I'm also tempted to ask if you've considered hot nut coal from your parlor stove.
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6/6/2026 4:13:55 PM EDT
[#15]
I like to bring a more than lethal option called a redhead with me, sure she’s a nuclear option awaiting release authority on an unsuspecting felon, but some times a Glock 18 isn’t a lethal enough option!
6/6/2026 4:50:41 PM EDT
[#16]
I have young kids and they have a lot of school functions where I cannot be armed, even with a knife. So I have some small OC sprays. They are only a one or two person hit, but small and drop in a pockets.  I figure someone is better than nothing.

I have been looking at some other stuff like VZ G10 daggers, just to have something else.  I havent bought one yet.
6/6/2026 8:52:53 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By dogsplat:



He said "less than lethal."
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Those devices are usually called just "less lethal" because they have the capacity to be lethal in the right circumstances or with misuse.
What it boils down to is that they fear an effective resistance to their power: So, Left in power=Guns bad, mmmmkay...?, Right in power=Guns good!-thskirk
6/6/2026 9:22:10 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By ag04blast:
I have young kids and they have a lot of school functions where I cannot be armed, even with a knife. So I have some small OC sprays. They are only a one or two person hit, but small and drop in a pockets.  I figure someone is better than nothing.

I have been looking at some other stuff like VZ G10 daggers, just to have something else.  I havent bought one yet.
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Lol, does that school have metal detectors or something?
6/6/2026 10:18:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Bear mace.👍
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6/7/2026 2:01:08 PM EDT
[#20]


I CARRY A CAN OF POM PRETTY MUCH ANYTIME I CARRY A GUN.
6/8/2026 10:30:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Gabe Suarez just had a video on this. He called them personal diversionary devices.


PERSONAL DIVERSIONARY DEVICE
6/11/2026 9:35:33 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By Thefryzone:
Bear mace.👍
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IM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IS JUST A RIOT SIZE CAN OF OC BUT MORE IS USUALLY BETTER PLUS THEY OFFER EXTENDED RANGE.
6/11/2026 9:38:12 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By M15A2CLE:
OC is the right spray, but carrying it plus a gun, plus medical, plus spare mag, plus knife, plus a pocket knife, plus a light, plus a backup gun. …..fml

It’s just too much crap.

I carry as an alternative in less permissive areas, or when I want to carry super light.

It’s negative is everyone is getting sprayed.
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YOURE RIGHT ABOUT THAT, IN 35 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT I HAVE NEVER BEEN PRESENT WHEN OC SPRAY WAS USED THAT I DIDNT CATCH SOME
6/15/2026 12:51:43 AM EDT
[#24]
OC.  I'm 60, one bad knee.  Not crippled but slowed some.  I want tactical spice for situations that don't yet call for deadly force.
6/15/2026 12:56:44 AM EDT
[#25]
Used to. Mainly for delivering in areas with loose packs of dogs. Took it out when clearing out my car because of summer heat.

When the K Anthony verdict was announced I carried an AR FRT with drum mag. So extra lethal I guess. lol
7/6/2026 8:49:04 PM EDT
[#26]
Yeah, the circumstances where one has to rapidly use pepper spray rarely allow for a quick wind direction consideration.

GET IT BLOWN BACK IN YOUR FACE ONE TIME AND YOU WILL AUTOMATICLY CHECK WIND DIRECTION BEFORE YOU EVEN PULL IT. JUST THE FUMES WILL TAKE YOUR BREATH.
7/10/2026 7:40:57 PM EDT
[#27]
SOMETIMES I CARRY A PIECE OF NUT COAL IN MY RIGHT FRONT POCKET.
7/20/2026 2:18:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: anesvick][Edited] [#28]
I carry a POM pepper spray canister with clip at the back of my left pocket, still room to reach the magazine there if needed but within easy grabbing range.  As long as your pants have decent pockets this should work.  Knife and cellphone go on the right.

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