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11/1/2019 5:42:52 PM EDT
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It's not technical, looks like ass and unecessary considering 50k battery life.
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Its not just the battery life thing. They also use the solar for the auto dim features.
11/2/2019 7:22:32 AM EDT
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As others have stated, I'd go with RMR or Holosun 508T
11/2/2019 4:30:25 PM EDT
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Its not just the battery life thing. They also use the solar for the auto dim features.
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Does the auto dim cause washout?  I would rather have control over the brightness.
11/2/2019 4:39:16 PM EDT
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Does the auto dim cause washout?  I would rather have control over the brightness.
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It can which is why I don't use the auto brightness setting on my 407.  I set it manually and the shake awake function still works fine.  The side mounted battery tray is more what sold me so if I need to replace the battery I don't have to rezero.  The solar bit is just a nice bonus, but I really don't have strong feelz about it.
11/2/2019 5:24:16 PM EDT
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Thanks
11/5/2019 5:26:36 PM EDT
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PSA has the 507C on sale for $255 with coupon code "optics" and free shipping.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/holosun-circle-dot-solar-power-reflex-sight-hs507c.html
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@TCBA_Joe

is the code still valid? looks like I may have missed the bus on that deal
11/5/2019 5:39:44 PM EDT
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@TCBA_Joe

is the code still valid? looks like I may have missed the bus on that deal
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No idea. I'm not affiliated with them in any way. Code either works or doesn't.
11/5/2019 5:58:51 PM EDT
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I'd be curious if the shake awake on the Holosun is going to be constantly triggered by normal movement when you're carrying in a holster.
11/5/2019 7:28:06 PM EDT
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I'd be curious if the shake awake on the Holosun is going to be constantly triggered by normal movement when you're carrying in a holster.
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Pretty sure it stays on until 10 minutes of no movement.
11/5/2019 7:29:12 PM EDT
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I'd be curious if the shake awake on the Holosun is going to be constantly triggered by normal movement when you're carrying in a holster.
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I would assume so.

The Romeo1 I had had the same feature, and no matter when I'd check it, it would be on.

Except for whenever it decided it didn't want to work that day...
11/5/2019 10:19:42 PM EDT
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I'd be curious if the shake awake on the Holosun is going to be constantly triggered by normal movement when you're carrying in a holster.
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Yup... but you've got 50k hour so not a problem.
11/6/2019 12:38:19 PM EDT
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No idea. I'm not affiliated with them in any way. Code either works or doesn't.
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All good found it for a few bucks cheaper elsewhere.

And those looking for one Botach Tactical has them for like $229 shipped but it was a bust for me as they charge sales tax since AZ started that online purchase BS tax.
11/6/2019 12:48:34 PM EDT
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I like dots.  I'd like to try a holosun or an SRO for hunting with my G40.



I still have one G19 without a dot and I think I'm going to mill that and put the RMR from my G40 on it and get an SRO for the G40.
11/6/2019 6:29:54 PM EDT
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I would really like to get one for my 226, but I believe I have to have the slide milled. It has a dovetail, but it's rounded on the top.

Who would I send it to for milling?  
Do you guys think these will go one sale for Black Friday, etc?
11/6/2019 7:03:43 PM EDT
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I would really like to get one for my 226, but I believe I have to have the slide milled. It has a dovetail, but it's rounded on the top.

Who would I send it to for milling?  
Do you guys think these will go one sale for Black Friday, etc?
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Check out L&M Precision or Parker Mountain Machine. They mill for the P22X series. Has to be the one piece stainless steel slide and not the older two piece folded carbon steel slides though fwiw
11/6/2019 7:08:10 PM EDT
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11/6/2019 10:19:03 PM EDT
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I would really like to get one for my 226, but I believe I have to have the slide milled. It has a dovetail, but it's rounded on the top.

Who would I send it to for milling?  
Do you guys think these will go one sale for Black Friday, etc?
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Not sure how much milling services cost but brownells has pre-machined slides with some extra stippling for $189 last I checked. just swap all your guts into it and your turn key.

ETA: Oops just noticed the 226 claim. disregard.
11/7/2019 12:24:00 AM EDT
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Check out L&M Precision or Parker Mountain Machine. They mill for the P22X series. Has to be the one piece stainless steel slide and not the older two piece folded carbon steel slides though fwiw
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It's magnetic, so I'm going to assume its not stainless.

Thanks
11/7/2019 10:39:20 AM EDT
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It's magnetic, so I'm going to assume its not stainless.

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Got this pic from the interwebs but here's how to tell which one you have. Top is the older folded carbon steel, bottom is stainless.
11/7/2019 12:04:20 PM EDT
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It's magnetic, so I'm going to assume its not stainless.

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“Stainless” is a rather wide variety of alloys. Some are magnetic, some are not.
11/7/2019 12:53:01 PM EDT
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Almost all stainless used in firearms is going to be magnetic as austenitic 400 series or precipitation hardening 17-4.

Martensitic stainless steels are non-magnetic and generally less useful for firearms, outside of perhaps suppressors or muzzle devices or non-load bearing formed/stamped components.
11/7/2019 1:27:41 PM EDT
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Got this pic from the interwebs but here's how to tell which one you have. Top is the older folded carbon steel, bottom is stainless.
https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/photo-11.jpg
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Thank you guys for the info, I have the bottom one.   I guess I'll start making some calls.
11/9/2019 1:40:50 PM EDT
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was waiting for the ACRO to go on sale all year until Aaron Cowan released the vid on their terrible battery life.  Now I'm thinking I'll get a 508t.

Looking forward to black friday deals on em
11/9/2019 3:56:44 PM EDT
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I'm really wanting an RMR, best option and just looks badass.
11/9/2019 8:58:47 PM EDT
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I love the Holosun.
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11/15/2019 12:18:28 AM EDT
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I have a gen 3 glock 19 and don't want to mill my slide or get a new one. Considering this mount from Suarez and the 507c Holosun.
What other mounts should I consider?
11/15/2019 1:01:29 AM EDT
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Just my opinions.

I'd buy the standard G19 and have it milled. I have the MOS and milled versions and think milled is more secure, sits a little lower and looks better. Plus you can mount the rear sight in front of the RMR which I prefer. Jagerwerks does great work for like $125 - $185 depending on options. The Trijicon with 3.25 dot works best for me. You can turn up the brightness if you want a bigger dot. Also get suppressor height sights that lower 1/3 cowitness instead of true cowitness. Remember they are backup sights, not primary.

Checkout Aaron Cowan at Sage Dynamics on YouTube for great RD info. He just went past 20k rounds on his RMR  which he beat the snot out of (serious beating)  and it still works great and holds zero.

Good luck.

ETA: Aaron replaced his battery twice in a couple years and 20k rounds and didn't have to rezero. Probably another advantage to a milled slide.
11/15/2019 1:02:48 AM EDT
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I have a gen 3 glock 19 and don't want to mill my slide or get a new one. Considering this mount from Suarez and the 507c Holosun.
What other mounts should I consider?
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I don't like the dot mounted any higher than absolutely possible because height difference between typical iron height and the dot is the most counterintuitive thing about them for me.

But that said it's trainable and the Suarez mount looks pretty well thought out compared to most.
11/15/2019 1:18:33 AM EDT
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New vortex red dot.  T-1 killer.
11/15/2019 1:23:22 AM EDT
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New vortex red dot.  T-1 killer.
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Details?
11/15/2019 10:40:43 AM EDT
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New vortex red dot.  T-1 killer.
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Except T-1’s are not slide mounted optics.
11/15/2019 10:52:42 AM EDT
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Except T-1’s are not slide mounted optics.
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They can be.
11/15/2019 11:03:06 AM EDT
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They can be.
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Sure... But now that purpose built and superior designs are available, nobody is really doing it.
11/15/2019 11:20:31 AM EDT
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I have an RMR on a G45 MOS, and an SRO in a G17 MOS. Both have Trijicon suppressor sights on them.

Do not let anyone talk you out of the Glock MOS system, there is nothing wrong with it so long as you get the right screws and follow directions.

Anyone highlighting how a milled slide is "lower" than the MOS plate system must love a nearly cowitness setup on a RMR, because mine are barely lower 1/3. On the SRO, they are bottom 1/4 and I love it!

Get some anti fog drops. I use them on all of my optics now after I had a fog issue with the RMR.
11/15/2019 11:46:58 AM EDT
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They can be.
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You can mount a 4-16x on your pistol too.
11/15/2019 12:02:38 PM EDT
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I have an RMR on a G45 MOS, and an SRO in a G17 MOS. Both have Trijicon suppressor sights on them.

Do not let anyone talk you out of the Glock MOS system, there is nothing wrong with it so long as you get the right screws and follow directions.

Anyone highlighting how a milled slide is "lower" than the MOS plate system must love a nearly cowitness setup on a RMR, because mine are barely lower 1/3. On the SRO, they are bottom 1/4 and I love it!

Get some anti fog drops. I use them on all of my optics now after I had a fog issue with the RMR.
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Basically anyone actually competing with the things are going to tell you lower is better.

Just settle on the RMR cut and mill the damn thing.
11/15/2019 12:14:29 PM EDT
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Basically anyone actually competing with the things are going to tell you lower is better.

Just settle on the RMR cut and mill the damn thing.
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I love when people say HOB doesn't matter. If HOB doesn't matter, put a T1 on a Unity fast mount and put that sucker on your pistol.
11/15/2019 1:03:42 PM EDT
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Built a 19 for a carry optic carry gun and went to get a big boy, buy once optic with the 50k hour runtime and got a new gen 1 RMR.  My first trijicon product.

From the moment I put it on I had problems with blinking on and off and dimming and that was just dry firing.  Torqued and re-torqued the screws, tried different batteries and different brands, tried the different mounting plates that are suppose to fix the "flicker".

Just got it back from the service dept and they replaced the lens, the light source, and the contacts. WTF?  I was hoping that they'd just replace it with a gen 2.  I guess I'm back to testing it till I feel comfortable that it'll work 100%.

It's an expensive piece of equipment to lose trust in.  It so much as blinks and it's going back again.

The burris and vortex have always been good out of the box.  After I beat a burris to death in a few years of competition, they sent a brand new one.

YMMV
11/15/2019 3:22:40 PM EDT
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Built a 19 for a carry optic carry gun and went to get a big boy, buy once optic with the 50k hour runtime and got a new gen 1 RMR.  My first trijicon product.

From the moment I put it on I had problems with blinking on and off and dimming and that was just dry firing.  Torqued and re-torqued the screws, tried different batteries and different brands, tried the different mounting plates that are suppose to fix the "flicker".

Just got it back from the service dept and they replaced the lens, the light source, and the contacts. WTF?  I was hoping that they'd just replace it with a gen 2.  I guess I'm back to testing it till I feel comfortable that it'll work 100%.

It's an expensive piece of equipment to lose trust in.  It so much as blinks and it's going back again.

The burris and vortex have always been good out of the box.  After I beat a burris to death in a few years of competition, they sent a brand new one.

YMMV
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First thing you should have done is add a $10 sealing plate.
11/15/2019 11:35:43 PM EDT
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Built a 19 for a carry optic carry gun and went to get a big boy, buy once optic with the 50k hour runtime and got a new gen 1 RMR.  My first trijicon product.

From the moment I put it on I had problems with blinking on and off and dimming and that was just dry firing.  Torqued and re-torqued the screws, tried different batteries and different brands, tried the different mounting plates that are suppose to fix the "flicker".

Just got it back from the service dept and they replaced the lens, the light source, and the contacts. WTF?  I was hoping that they'd just replace it with a gen 2.  I guess I'm back to testing it till I feel comfortable that it'll work 100%.

It's an expensive piece of equipment to lose trust in.  It so much as blinks and it's going back again.

The burris and vortex have always been good out of the box.  After I beat a burris to death in a few years of competition, they sent a brand new one.

YMMV
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2 things.

The gen 1 RMR was not made specifically with handguns in mind. It came out before PMO took off. The gen 2 is designed with handguns in mind and just works. Checkout this video.

The gen 1 issue with flickering (most didn't)  was easily fixed with a gen 1 sealing plate.

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