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Today 3:41:33 PM EDT
Your List: Things that are made better than ever and Things that are Garbage:

The Good:
* TV's
* Some Cars

Garbage:
* Clothes Washers/Especially Whirlpool and Maytag
* Lawnmowers: Total Garbage

What's your list?
Today 3:48:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Honestly, all my Ryobi power tools and lawn equipment are awesome.

TVs and various electronic devices are junk now.
Today 3:49:39 PM EDT
[#2]
There are exceptions, but in general flashlights are far better than they were in the past,
brighter, more efficient, more options, etc.

I think mid-tier tool quality (Tekton and the like) is better than it was 40-50 years ago, but
that will be more controversial.

Clothing and especially shoes and socks are garbage, and I have to put in far too much
effort to find quality stuff, only for the brand to enshittify itself a year or two later, so you
can't stick with one product anymore and expect consistent quality.
Today 3:52:04 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By seek2:
There are exceptions, but in general flashlights are far better than they were in the past,
brighter, more efficient, more options, etc.

I think mid-tier tool quality (Tekton and the like) is better than it was 40-50 years ago, but
that will be more controversial.

Clothing and especially shoes and socks are garbage, and I have to put in far too much
effort to find quality stuff, only for the brand to enshittify itself a year or two later, so you
can't stick with one product anymore and expect consistent quality.
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Agree about the Clothes and Shoe situation!
Today 3:53:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Generally, vehicles are way more reliable and efficient for a lot longer than they used to be.

Clothes are Generally pretty shitty compared to what they used to be.
"Freedom is a messy business." - LaRue_Tactical

I am a sack of blood, held together by un-tanned leather. . .
Today 3:53:41 PM EDT
[#5]
From a hobby perspective, model kits are light years ahead of where they were 40 years ago.
The kits produced now are simply stunning. (but also much more expensive.)

(The Testors Glue thread got me thinking about that.)
Today 5:56:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MPiKM][Edited] [#6]
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Originally Posted By tifosi:
From a hobby perspective, model kits are light years ahead of where they were 40 years ago.
The kits produced now are simply stunning. (but also much more expensive.)

(The Testors Glue thread got me thinking about that.)
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Also the paint, putty, and cement aspect.
Today 6:07:00 PM EDT
[#7]
Better
First aid kits and stuff in them.
Good beer available in stores and bars
Quality boots and access to them
TV's in size and picture at least

Worse
Appliances
Clothes
98% of stuff that is now made in China

Today 6:12:13 PM EDT
[#8]
I won't speak for clothes in general but Duluth Trading jeans and tee shirts are the best, longest lasting and comfortable that I've ever worn.
Today 6:17:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Better?  Flashlights, rechargeable batteries, cars, and package delivery.  

As a kid, flashlight batteries lasted about two hours—tops—and provided comparatively little light.  Rechargeable batts sucked, and were ridiculous in price.  People don’t understand how much work older cars took to keep alive for often less than 100K miles…and “Allow 4-6 weeks for delivery” used to be a thing.  

Worse?  Courtesy, societal “trust”, Chinese takeout/delivery, and affordable homes.
On Wednesdays we wear steel.
Today 6:40:43 PM EDT
[#10]
My surfboards are state-of-the-art, they are made with the same technology modern CF helicopter rotors are made from.
Today 6:48:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Better:  computers (I build my own), battery-powered tools

Worse:  replacement auto parts, appliances, anything with the "Made in China" label on it
Today 7:27:33 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
Generally, vehicles are way more reliable and efficient for a lot longer than they used to be.

Clothes are Generally pretty shitty compared to what they used to be.
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At least through the warranty period.
My brother has a Ford Ranger that grenaded the tranny at 61k miles.
They covered it thankfully.
As always, have nice day!
Today 7:39:06 PM EDT
[#13]
better SCOTUS

worse Congress

Today 7:46:13 PM EDT
[#14]
The good:
Some stuff

The bad:
Humans in general
Find around and fuck out.
Today 7:47:11 PM EDT
[#15]
The performance of vehicles as a whole is far better.

Stereo equipment.

Guns, they're pretty fuckin' reliable.

Optics.

What's shit? Anything involving service.
Just no
Today 7:54:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Better:  bolt action rifles.  Now cheap ones can often shoot moa or better with factory ammo.  That wasn't the case just a few decades ago.

Worse: refrigerator.  They suck and are disposable now
Today 7:59:17 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner:
Honestly, all my Ryobi power tools and lawn equipment are awesome.

TVs and various electronic devices are junk now.
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Ryobi is mediocre for most things.  Take their battery pump sprayer for example.  Pure garbage.  I burned through 4 with one lasting one day for residential weed spraying use.  

Now that Milwaukee and DeWalt are making sprayers, there is good stuff on the market.  

Gotta shop around and choose wisely.  

I have had Samsung TVs that just would not fucking quit.  I hate dumping working things to buy the next higher tech, better performing, bigger screen shit.  It is one thing Samsung has done right.  I still have three Samsung LED TVs that will not give up.  

FRT.  Gets better every week.  I can't keep up.  
Preferred pronoun: MARINE
Today 8:00:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Better:

TVs
3DPrinters
Mountain bikes
Electric motors (brushless is amazing in about everything)
Batteries
Cars
Computers
Coolers

Worse:
Non-serviceable anything/everything

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Originally Posted By -Kyuss-:
The good:
Some stuff

The bad:
Humans in general
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And people -  people suck
Today 8:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ScopeScar][Edited] [#19]
1. Compared to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s: cars.

Tighter steering
No carburetors
No boat float
Last longer
Better mpg
Better amenities
Better safety (overdone even)
AC almost universal

2. Delivery

3. Every option presented or findable via the web.  No more catalogs or wasted trips.
Today 8:05:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By Primecube:
* Lawnmowers: Total Garbage

What's your list?
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Disagree.  My Honda lawnmower is the finest machine I've ever mowed with.
Today 8:06:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bluemax_1][Edited] [#21]
Flashlights - 10,000%

LEDs and LiIon have made HUGE leaps and bounds in just the last two decades.

Been a flashlight nut ever since I was a kid. A flashlight is one of the first things I remember buying with my own money.

I have the original first LED module released by Surefire (KL1 head for the E1E/E2E). That thing put out 16 lumens ~20 years ago. , but it pushed the runtime from 45-60 minutes, to 3-4 hours.

Got a Lumintop Nano GT for the hell of it, a few years ago. Tiny flashlight with a very slightly bigger head than a typical 1xAAA keychain light. Shorter than my pinky, and it blows away my old 6 D-cell incan Maglite.

Brightest flashlight I own is the discontinued Imalent DX80. 32,000 lumens. Darned thing lights up the entire backyard to the treeline ~100yds away without needing to pan it around. It’s so bright, after playing around with it in the boonies, I thought one of the HID High beams in the SUV had burnt out. Nope. It was simply that I’d gotten used to (blinded by) the amount of light the DX80 can put out, that the HID high beams seemed really dim in comparison).

It’s been discontinued because it’s been superseded by brighter lights. Imalent’s current brightest is the MS32 200,000 lumen flashlight.

What’s crazy is that the DX80 was their flagship brightest light when I got it (2017-2018). As always, the highest brightness modes only run for a short time (75-90 seconds) before they drop the brightness down, because they generate a lot of heat.

The DX80 could only blast that 32,000 lumens for about that short period.

Likewise, the MS32 can only blast 200,000 lumens for about 75s, BUT, it can blast the 40,000 lumen brightness for 45 minutes and 18,000 lumens for ~1.5 hours (HID high beams are about 4,000-5,000 lumens each, so 8,000-10,000 lumens combined) ***and there are videos of people lighting paper on fire and cooking an egg with the light output of the MS32

Also have the Weltool W4 1.7 million candela LEP (they have an even brighter version).

For folks unfamiliar with LEPs, these lights are all throw, no spill (not very practical for lighting anything closer than 200-300yds away).

Somewhere deep in GD, a member posted a pic his wife took. He decided to hike up a mountain about 10 miles from his house. When he got to the top of the mountain, he called his wife to come out to the front yard, to see if she could see him point his LEP flashlight in the rough direction of their house in the daytime.

She said, “OMG, I see it!” and took a photo. He posted the pic. You can see the bright dot on the mountaintop ~10 miles away.
Today 8:09:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Lots of good ones already listed. Flashlights, lithium ion cordless tools… but here are some that haven’t been brought up yet.

Better:
Ammunition. Modern metallurgy is crazy. Until very recently you could have an expanding hunting bullet that grouped ok at best, or an expensive mono metal target bullet that’s gonna ice pick through a bad guy. Now you can buy a box of hunting 6.5cm that will shoot groups that would have made handloaders back in the day jealous.

Cheap guns. Used to be a $400 rifle was a gamble on whether it would even work, let alone work well. Remember “The List”? Yeah high end ARs and hunting rifles are awesome, but I have a TC Compass I bought at Walmart that shoots as well as a gun I paid ten times as much for. Modern machining would blow the mind of a WWII machinist. Or even a gun builder from the 80s.

Knives. Modern metallurgy is crazy. The new crucible steels, particularly Magnacut, have to be experienced before you really understand how much BETTER they are. I love Randall Knives but a $200 magnacut blade would literally carve it like a bar of soap, and I could drop it in the ocean for six months and when I come back it’ll still be sharp and rust free.
Never Forget Those Who Died.
Never Forget Those Who Killed Them.
Today 8:12:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By Zip196:

At least through the warranty period.
My brother has a Ford Ranger that grenaded the tranny at 61k miles.
They covered it thankfully.
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Back in the old days, a car was used up by 100k. My two primary vehicles have 200&300k.
"Freedom is a messy business." - LaRue_Tactical

I am a sack of blood, held together by un-tanned leather. . .
Today 8:17:05 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By DFARM:

Back in the old days, a car was used up by 100k. My two primary vehicles have 200&300k.
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Originally Posted By DFARM:
Originally Posted By Zip196:

At least through the warranty period.
My brother has a Ford Ranger that grenaded the tranny at 61k miles.
They covered it thankfully.

Back in the old days, a car was used up by 100k. My two primary vehicles have 200&300k.

And even 4-door grocery getters nowadays have faster 0-60, 1/4 mile and handling, yet better mpg and reliability than sports/muscle cars of yesteryear.
Today 8:28:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By Primecube:
Your List: Things that are made better than ever and Things that are Garbage:

The Good:
* TV's
* Some Cars

Garbage:
* Clothes Washers/Especially Whirlpool and Maytag
* Lawnmowers: Total Garbage

What's your list?
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TVs are garbage spies.
And my Scag is an awesome lawnmower.


Good:
Flashlights
Pocket knives


Garbage:
Restaurant food
Movies
Today 8:43:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BuddyChryst][Edited] [#26]
Absolute garbage: concrete. I even had a guy come out this year and talk us out of doing work, because it’s so shitty that it’s going to fall apart in 2 years and he can’t warranty it.

ETA: airlines. Fees everywhere, no leg room, exit aisle costs more, fewer reliable options. No goddamned peanuts.

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