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9/6/2026 1:33:23 AM EDT
[#1]
M&P 22. Less than 100 rounds through it and it popped a hole in the slide. After 6 months S&W finally sent me a slide, that I had to pay for, to sell the gun at a loss.



Savage BMag. Another gun that had issues. Think I had 20 rounds through it and it started doing this:



Savage was a hell of a lot better at customer service. They saw the casing pic and said not to fire it. Sent me a label to ship it back. A month later, I get a brand new rifle with the tags still on it. I sold that for what I paid for it.
9/6/2026 1:49:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Century HK-91 clone back in 1999... just before the ban. 5th shot and the trigger pack falls off the shelf. I was brand new to guns didn't know anything but figured out the pushpin receiver holes were oblong not round... I thought "hey this is a parts gun but shouldn't the RECEIVER be brand new? Gave it to a crappy gunsmith who said it just wasn't assembled correctly, 5 rounds later same thing, sent it to a real gunsmith who welded the holes and re-drilled them, flawless after that.

And that's how I learned about "Century Arms".
9/6/2026 1:59:47 AM EDT
[#3]
LaRue OBR 556. The worst made AR I have ever seen much less owned. Sent it back to LaRue and they returned it to me still not able to function. I got rid of it and bought an Armalite.
9/6/2026 2:32:14 AM EDT
[#4]
CZ-85 B. It had some tolerance issues with the machining of the frame or the action block inside the frame.

As a result the block could move a little and the detention stop for the safety didn't work. If I did not actively keep the safety off, it would move a little and cause a misfire.

I could not fix that, so ended up getting a custom safety lever that worked as a thumb rest. After that it worked except off-hand shooting was a pain.
9/6/2026 2:33:18 AM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By harpua:


AMC never owned Smith and Wesson
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It was either Bangor Punta or Lear Seigler.

He might be thinking of AMF who owned Harley Davidson at the time.
9/6/2026 6:09:12 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By SideCarGT:
Llama 1911 in .45 in the early 90’s.  Horrible. Unreliable.
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Same. Exact same experience and same time frame.
9/6/2026 6:20:34 AM EDT
[#7]
My Sig MPX K is just about worthless.Beyond 10 yards it’s accuracy is atrocious. It’s never malfunctioned but I don’t trust it for anything other than range use. I’ve checked checked and rechecked everything on it and I can’t find anything wrong with it. I’m gonna try an 8 inch barrel at some point as I suspect that the issue is a combination of barrel length and gas system.
9/6/2026 6:21:41 AM EDT
[#8]
Steyr Aug
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
9/6/2026 6:22:06 AM EDT
[#9]
870.

What a POS. Tactical version with front site dovetailed in a ghost ring rear. Front sight just slid right out.

Action binds if you have any back pressure on it.

And the thing rusted up fast after it drizzled during a 3-gun. And I mean like the lightest misting rain. Barely more than fog.

My buddies bought it for me, so I couldn’t complain much. But the experience did save me from further money loss. Because when they relaunched the R51 I said no fucking way am I buying another Remington firearm. Same for when I decide to get a budget bolt gun, it was either Ruger or Savage (went Ruger).
9/6/2026 6:24:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daedalus74:

I had the same experience with the shield and G43 - apparently I have trouble with really skinny guns.  Picked up a G48 and was like "where have you been all my life"

S&W 1911PD - feed ramp was way out of spec.  Constantly choked and S&W "service" sent it back covered in scratches and without fixing it.  Really disappointing - AFAIK it was the only lightweight 1911 with a rail available at the time......

Had 2 G35's that wouldn't make it through a whole mag without a FTF - not exactly high end guns but JFC it's a Glock lol

S&W 386 Mountain Lite - patterned like a shotgun.  I'm willing to admit this was mostly me though....
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The G43 and G48 are within 1/16” of each other in width.
9/6/2026 6:25:46 AM EDT
[#11]
CZ Trail 600+


Complete piece of shit
9/6/2026 6:43:03 AM EDT
[#12]
SEI Crazy Horse M14. Horrible accuracy.
I sold it to a guy who wanted it even after I told him the problems I had with it. He said he knew a smith that was great with M14s. He messaged me a few months later saying they couldn't fix it.
Extorris, because he's a heartless cunt. The purity of his apathy is laboratory grade, and I sleep well knowing that he's out there somewhere,
not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
9/6/2026 6:49:28 AM EDT
[#13]
Benelli, ALL-FACTORY, M4 LE model. I paid $2,500 for it so I wouldn’t have to mess with aftermarket parts.

It fails to fire ~2% of the time due to light primer strikes.

Yes, I have tried multiple brands of ammunition. No, Benelli CS doesn’t give a shit.
Life is short. If you are waiting for “someday”, it’s here!
9/6/2026 6:53:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tc556guy][Edited] [#14]
I rescued a couple of rimfire handguns that ended up not being worth the money spent on them. A Smith and Wesson and a High Standard.
They're still in the safe simply because I couldn't get any of my customers interested in them as I was closing down my FFL a few years ago.
They're shooters and not collectors so they were of no interest to the collectors
I had an AMT Backup in 40 Auto that was less than stellar. I was happy to sell that off to be replaced by a Glock 27 when those came out
And of course, there's the Grendel 380 ACP I've posted about here before that should be a doorstop
*post contains personal opinion only and should not be considered information released in an official capacity*

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9/6/2026 7:04:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TripleC][Edited] [#15]
Never happened to me personally but a friend had an AMT backup 380 that was the biggest POS I had ever shot. It would light strike the primer and you would have to pull the trigger again and again.  Had a couple gunsmiths work on it and they gave up.
when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness
9/6/2026 7:26:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FighterFixer1][Edited] [#16]
The most disappointing firearm for me was a Colt Combat Elite stainless in .40 S&W, 1992 time frame.


It was a catalog special order from the BX rod&gun club and I waited almost a year for it to arrive.  I was young and didn’t know anything, but all the gun writers were talking about how the .40 was the new best thing.  I had always wanted a 1911 and when I saw it in the catalog, I HAD to have one.


The pistol arrived, configured differently than the catalog pics—no ambi safety, no wide beaver tail, normal rear sight instead of a Novak.  I didn’t send it back because it took forever to get it in the first place and I was getting ready to PCS soon.  The only .40 ammo I could get my hands on in the Alaska boonies was Winchester Black Talons.


That pistol was a malfunction clearing trainer.  I don’t think it ever got through more than 3 rounds before choking.  I didn’t have any internet to troubleshoot, and I ended up trading it for something else.  

In hindsight, I really wish I had kept it.  I’ve built several 1911s since, and I’m certain that I could have gotten it running.  

Colt only made this version for 1 year and
I have never seen another factory Colt 1911 chambered in .40 S&W in the wild.  It would have been a nice oddity for the collection.
9/6/2026 7:29:49 AM EDT
[#17]
Brand new ordered HK45 Compact Tactical

That gun fired several inches low and several inches off center at 10 yards.  

Didn't matter the ammo, the shooter, suppressor on or off

I loved how it felt and looked but was the worst shooting handgun I've ever owned.

9/6/2026 7:31:46 AM EDT
[#18]
Glock 23. That POS couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Groups at 7y were watermelon sized. Confirmed by multiple people. Definitely a lemon.
9/6/2026 7:59:08 AM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By harpua:


AMC never owned Smith and Wesson
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Originally Posted By harpua:
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
My Model 28 Highway Patrolman. Back in 1980s, S & W was owned by AMC, which was at lukewarm toward the 2A.

The cylinder was tightly machined so after a few .38 Specials, .357 rounds were pretty tight. Also the ejection rod was drilled off-center at the front end! There were other issues as well, and when I tried to send it in they claimed it'd been worked on and wouldn't honor the warranty.


AMC never owned Smith and Wesson


Dammit you're right!

In the 1980s, ownership of Smith & Wesson changed hands twice.  From 1965 until 1984, the company was owned by the American conglomerate Bangor Punta.

In 1984, Lear Siegler Corporation acquired Bangor Punta, briefly placing Smith & Wesson under its control.  Finally, in 1987, the British engineering conglomerate Tomkins PLC purchased Smith & Wesson, holding ownership through the end of the decade and into the 1990s.

that's what I get for listening to the gun store owner who sold it to me.
87% of the time, any question starting with "Why..." is answered with "Money."

I am so tempted to lay down the melancholy burden of sanity...

"...and if you can't wait for dawn you can always light a fire."
9/6/2026 8:02:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Mark V Weatherby in 300 WBY mag. Spent a fortune on that gun in 1994, spent all spring and summer trying to find ANYTHING it would shoot, sent it back to Weatherby once, still a POS. I ended up trading it even for a model 700 in 300 win mag.
9/6/2026 8:06:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Kimber

Mic drop
9/6/2026 8:07:43 AM EDT
[#22]
I bought a 1st generation S&W Sigma 9mm in college - Glock knock off. It was a POS right out of the box. Wouldn't feed or function well irrespective of cleaning, lubricating, trouble shooting, you name it.

Well worth the $225 price tag.
The only exploited minority in this nation is the American taxpayer. -kevinb120
9/6/2026 8:14:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I once purchased a Sig Mosquito.
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Same here.

That piece of shit will never be a problem for anyone else since its resting in 300+ feet of water.
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9/6/2026 8:15:36 AM EDT
[#24]
S&W Model 59 was so loose that it was inaccurate,junk.
9/6/2026 8:18:35 AM EDT
[#25]
Won a Rock Island BBR in a raffle for 20$ if that counts.

Everything sucked about it.

Traded it to my buddy for a BNIB Canik Mete SFT.

Best trade ever!
9/6/2026 8:26:01 AM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By colklink:
Probably my PS90. I paid $1900 for it, its not as accurate as a $300 PSA M4 clone.
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If accuracy is what you’re chasing, why would you even consider a PS90 as platform for target shooting?

That’s like buying a Mazda Miata and then being upset it’s not as good as a jeep for off roading.
9/6/2026 8:27:55 AM EDT
[#27]
springfield prodigy
9/6/2026 8:36:28 AM EDT
[#28]
Rifle Dynamics NATO AK. That thing shot minute of man groups at 25 yards. At least it looked cool
9/6/2026 8:43:37 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I once purchased an Sig Mosquito.
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Yep. I was dumbfounded that Sig could turn out such a POS. Turns out it was a harbinger of things to come.
9/6/2026 8:47:24 AM EDT
[#30]
Kimber
Mosquito
sPecial weapons sw3
9/6/2026 8:48:58 AM EDT
[#31]
Star BM9
Went in with two others and bought 3, mine never did work reliably.
Gave it to them for spare parts, both are gunsmiths and had no luck repairing it.

Luck of the draw, surplus junk.
I started with nothing, and I still have most of it
9/6/2026 8:53:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WingMaster988:

Yep. I was dumbfounded that Sig could turn out such a POS. Turns out it was a harbinger of things to come.
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Originally Posted By WingMaster988:
Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I once purchased an Sig Mosquito.

Yep. I was dumbfounded that Sig could turn out such a POS. Turns out it was a harbinger of things to come.


This.

Mine went back to the factory because it wouldn’t eject.  The  chamber walls  looked like Sig had accidentally threaded it for a screw it was so rough.

The replacement barrel while not as bad, also had a chamber that looked rough, albeit slightly better. It was a tad bit more functional than the original, but still couldn’t make it through a magazine without several rounds failing to extract.
9/6/2026 8:53:16 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack:
P226. I really wanted to like it, but I just couldn't.
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Same. Bought a 226 from a pawn shop that came with the .22lr conversion slide and Mecgar mags. Really wanted to like it, but my grip would cause it to fail to lock back on an empty mag. Just didn’t work with my hands.
9/6/2026 8:55:09 AM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By spork:
Chiappa Rhino 30DS

Accuracy goes out the window once it starts to heat up from sustained fire.
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Chiappa M1-9. It's a blowback PCC using Beretta mags, should be dead nuts simple. Thing stovepipes/FtFeed almost every round. Tried their mags and Beretta. Seems silly to have a gunsmif look at it because it's so cheap, but I wouldn't even know where to start to get it working.
9/6/2026 9:02:06 AM EDT
[#35]
DSA FAL. It was f’ing damn picky with ammo and gas adjustments. Not my cup of tea.
The Second Amendment: Preserving our right to petition the government - with malice.
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
Virginia Is For Loners (™)
9/6/2026 9:09:16 AM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By LittleAugieMo:

You try tweaking the ejector???
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Originally Posted By vaughn4380:
Colt 9mm 1911. Damn thing threw brass directly back at my eyes, every time. Always hit my eye protection which meant there was no way I could risk carrying it since I don’t wear glasses. Must have tried ten different brands of ammo, same problem. Sent it back to Colt and it came back without improvement. Finally sold it at a loss.

You try tweaking the ejector???



Not everyone is handy at doing such things or has the knowledge to do so

He sent it back to Colt since it was under warranty so why didn’t they do it
9/6/2026 9:11:02 AM EDT
[#37]
Two

Ruger Gunsite Scout, I don’t know how they made that inaccurate of a rifle.

HK 45c, everybody talked about how awesome they were. Rather have a USP.
9/6/2026 9:19:57 AM EDT
[#38]
S&W branded PPK/S.
Two of them.
Whatever QC checks they "passed" must have been done by blind imbeciles.
Third one was a jammomatic.
Traded that one off and bought a pre-war PP.
9/6/2026 9:21:58 AM EDT
[#39]
S&W M&P9. It's no secret they're great guns, but I got a lemon. It couldn't eject rounds more than a few inches no matter what ammo I ran through it. Cases would just kinda dribble down my arm and occasionally it's eject one far enough to hit me in the face. Sent it back to smith, the said tight chamber and replaced the barrel. Same result. It went back again, they said ejector and replaced it. Same result. Went back to smith again, they said extractor. Same result. It went down the road after that and I never bought another one.
9/6/2026 9:24:56 AM EDT
[#40]
Sig mosquito
The mountains are calling, and I must go. -John Muir

No matter howw much you hate the media, it's not enough.
-McGuy
9/6/2026 9:25:39 AM EDT
[#41]
I had a Ruger m77 mkii with an improperly tensioned claw extractor that would leave rounds in the chamber.  Back to the factory.

I still have a Ruger SP101 that broke a poorly cast (and fitted) part in the trigger group, seizing the lockwork. Back to the factory repaired for free-ish. Works great now, but annoying.



9/6/2026 9:31:19 AM EDT
[#42]
USP 40
I don’t like making plans for the day. Because then the word "premeditated" gets thrown around in the courtroom.
9/6/2026 9:51:37 AM EDT
[#43]
Both a Benelli SBE, and an SBE II. Could not get them to cycle reliably.
9/6/2026 10:07:50 AM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By vaughn4380:
Colt 9mm 1911. Damn thing threw brass directly back at my eyes, every time. Always hit my eye protection which meant there was no way I could risk carrying it since I don’t wear glasses. Must have tried ten different brands of ammo, same problem. Sent it back to Colt and it came back without improvement. Finally sold it at a loss.
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ejector needed a slight adjustment, Had one doing exact same thing reshaped ejector angle and it has been fine ever since (about 25 years) a friends had same issue but his ejector was already bubba butchered  by previous owner trying to fix it with a dremel insteada a file new ejector cured it, the ejector angle was bouncing cases off the front of ejector port and straight back..

OP; 1st gen Browning BAR high power Belgium made in .308, beautiful rifle  nomatter what ammo or handload used it would not group ended up trading it for a Thompson contenter 1st gen with 3 barrels and 2 scopes best trade I ever made!



9/6/2026 10:10:43 AM EDT
[#45]
I don't remember most because I never keep them long enough. But in recent memory...


CZ P-09...had a five stage trigger. Bought it because it was cheap and didn't love the ergos enough to drop money to have it Cajunized.

SP-101...charge holes wouldn't fully seat .357

SP-101 3" Lipsey's...wouldn't shoot to POA with any bullet weight

USP 9 Tactical...wouldn't shoot POA with adjustable sights maxed out in any direction.

Early Mini 14....the usual problems.

Tikka TX3 Ranahan...rear sight screws were stripped out of the box.

Sig 365XL...horrible trigger compared to M17 and M18. Sold all of them eventually.

S&W 610...barrel had significant chatter marks that were collecting lead deposits. Sent it back to Smith...got a new barrel...good as new.
Shooter6 Out
9/6/2026 10:10:47 AM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By Boognish:
I mentioned this in another thread, but my Series 70 Colt Lightweight Commander that was pristine.  It shot several feet low and I just could never get it on target regardless of ammo, others shooting it, etc.  I hated getting rid of it and regret it to this day but I just couldn't hit shit with it.  It was a beautiful gun and I should have sent it off to get worked over.
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$18 barrel bushing
9/6/2026 10:13:55 AM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By harpua:


AMC never owned Smith and Wesson
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Yeah, I've never heard that either. Some British conglomerate owned them in the 90s, they were run into the ground, and the Hammer Safety folks bought them for like 1.5 million as I recall.
I've met cats and dogs smarter than Cory and Trevor.
9/6/2026 10:18:15 AM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By MallNinja531:
S&W M&P9. It's no secret they're great guns, but I got a lemon. It couldn't eject rounds more than a few inches no matter what ammo I ran through it. Cases would just kinda dribble down my arm and occasionally it's eject one far enough to hit me in the face. Sent it back to smith, the said tight chamber and replaced the barrel. Same result. It went back again, they said ejector and replaced it. Same result. Went back to smith again, they said extractor. Same result. It went down the road after that and I never bought another one.
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I had to send back a used M&P9 gen 2 I bought, they were able to diagnose and repair the first time. Failure to extract, Failure to feed issues. It runs like a top now.
I've met cats and dogs smarter than Cory and Trevor.
9/6/2026 10:19:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Waffen marked High Power. It failed to eject several times per magazine. The only thing that fixed it was a new (borrowed) slide. I was poor at the time and ended up swapping it for several other guns.
9/6/2026 10:21:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
My Model 28 Highway Patrolman. Back in 1980s, S & W was owned by AMC, which was at best lukewarm toward the 2A.

The cylinder was tightly machined so after a few .38 Specials, .357 rounds were pretty tight. Also the ejection rod was drilled off-center at the front end! There were other issues as well, and when I tried to send it in they claimed it'd been worked on and wouldn't honor the warranty.
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your confusing S&W for Harley Davidson AMC never owned S&W they owned Harley from 69-81,  Bangor Punta and later   Tomkins in 1987 owned S&W

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