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6/18/2025 9:02:58 PM EDT
I went to align 2 vises and was going to use a 2-4-6 block which I now know was dumb.  It slipped out and hit the table

I stoned it out to where the table seems to be flat but I’m so pissed off at myself for being stupid.  It’s eating at me a bit as I hate damaging things due to stupidity more than I can describe.


I bought this to use instead after watching this video.

Tramming Multiple Milling Machine Vises: The Easy Way

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6/18/2025 9:33:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Amish_Bill][Edited] [#1]
Nope - Never Have.

However....
- I've never run a mill
- my mill is still setting on a dolly waiting for it's table to be placed
- I'm likely do worse to it within 5 minutes of getting it on it's table
- possibly even before I've powered it on

: - )

I bet seeing that ding will remind you to slow down and prevent a number of possible future occurrences.
Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
Vet - Op MMAMA
Every other species kills off their stupid......we cater to them. -- spin-drift
Nobody ever called 911&said I just did something smart. -- TheFlynDutchman
6/18/2025 9:39:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Yeah I’ll definitely remember being dumb when I see the marks and think more about what I’m doing.

I could have put a cover between the vises that was sitting 2ft away but of course I didn’t.
6/18/2025 9:43:24 PM EDT
[#3]
I have not done that but I did touch and endmill to a vise jaw for the first time last week.
6/18/2025 10:10:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst:
I have not done that but I did touch and endmill to a vise jaw for the first time last week.
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I think I’d have been happier doing that since the vise is at least replaceable. How long have you been doing this?

I do worry about the fixed jaw on my DX4 vises being non-replaceable.
6/18/2025 11:00:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jm0502][Edited] [#5]
Milled In to my vf9 table recently. Very pissed
6/18/2025 11:23:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jm0502:
Milled In to my vf9 table recently. Very pissed
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That sucks

Okay…now I just feel like a whiner.
6/18/2025 11:24:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: number40Fan][Edited] [#7]
Nothing to the table itself, but the vice does have some battle scars.  Some, intentionally as the jaws can be replaced easily.

As for the ding in your table, I wouldn't sweat it.  Put one of your vices over it and never see it again.
6/18/2025 11:35:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By number40Fan:
Nothing to the table itself, but the vice does have some battle scars.  Some, intentionally as the jaws can be replaced easily.

As for the ding in your table, I wouldn't sweat it.  Put one of your vices over it and never see it again.
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Out of sight out of mind…I like it!
6/18/2025 11:36:46 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By jm0502:
Milled In to my vf9 table recently. Very pissed
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I will neither confirm nor deny there being an ATF legal set of maker markings on the bed of my laser....
Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
Vet - Op MMAMA
Every other species kills off their stupid......we cater to them. -- spin-drift
Nobody ever called 911&said I just did something smart. -- TheFlynDutchman
6/19/2025 12:35:31 AM EDT
[#10]
I managed to damage one of the ways on a Sherline I had after converting it to CNC,
which is an extra special level of stupid.

For some reason breaking mill bits within their first few seconds of operation always pisses me
off more than machine damage does. Especially when they're specialty bits that cost real
money. Nothing like doing a G0 forgetting there's something in the way and hearing the
"tink" cracking noise carbide bits make as they enter the next phase of their life.
6/19/2025 12:42:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Firestarter123][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By seek2:
I managed to damage one of the ways on a Sherline I had after converting it to CNC,
which is an extra special level of stupid.

For some reason breaking mill bits within their first few seconds of operation always pisses me
off more than machine damage does. Especially when they're specialty bits that cost real
money. Nothing like doing a G0 forgetting there's something in the way and hearing the
"tink" cracking noise carbide bits make as they enter the next phase of their life.
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I can see that.  I’ll never CNC mine just for that reason. It’d be cool but I’d break too much stuff.

I have 2 nice sets of SGS carbide end mills and I don’t even want to use them yet since I’m new and don’t want to break them.  I only have $80 each for the 5pc sets that go from 1/8”-1/2” but I’m still apprehensive about using them.
6/19/2025 1:11:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Firestarter123:



I can see that.  I’ll never CNC mine just for that reason. It’d be cool but I’d break too much stuff.

I have 2 nice sets of SGS carbide end mills and I don’t even want to use them yet since I’m new and don’t want to break them.  I only have $80 each for the 5pc sets that go from 1/8”-1/2” but I’m still apprehensive about using them.
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You're going to break bits, it's just a fact of life, especially starting out.
6/19/2025 9:53:44 AM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst:
I have not done that but I did touch and endmill to a vise jaw for the first time last week.
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Aren't vice jaws consumables?
6/19/2025 2:12:10 PM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By Firestarter123:


I think I’d have been happier doing that since the vise is at least replaceable. How long have you been doing this?

I do worry about the fixed jaw on my DX4 vises being non-replaceable.
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Been machining as part of my professional life for almost a decade.
6/19/2025 2:48:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Wait till you've made an error in code and caused tens of thousands of dollars in damage to a spindle and fixture.

lil scratch on a table ain't nuthin'!
6/19/2025 4:09:32 PM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By DoctorCAD:


Aren't vice jaws consumables?
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Not in my eyes. While they can be replaced why do it unnecessarily?


I'll make custom custom jaws for fixturing. No reason to screw up perfectly good precision fixturing with laziness or stupidity.


I was stupid and not paying attention while cutting below the top of the jaws. At least I was working on sitting cool, a MG42 carrier.
6/19/2025 4:15:25 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Luvman:
Wait till you've made an error in code and caused tens of thousands of dollars in damage to a spindle and fixture.

lil scratch on a table ain't nuthin'!
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A coworker made a 15" fly cutter for a Bridgeport series 1. That thing will cause tens of thousands of dollars of damage to you and the concrete slab! It's massive, scary and can make a 2000lb machine hop across the floor. Unfortunately it is the only thing we have that will make that wide of a piece of aluminum that flat. While we have surface ground aluminum there is no way we are putting that thing on the surface grinder.
6/26/2025 11:12:50 PM EDT
[#18]
A gouge?  Singular?  Only one?

Nope, my screw ups leave multiple gouges all at once.
7/9/2025 12:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: killingmachine123][Edited] [#19]
I watched a kid clamp the half nuts down to thread something, then walk away to do another task anticipating that he would make it back by the time the threading operation was done. Unfortunately for all involved, he was threading at a pretty high speed and it caused quite the crash.

On another occasion, I asked him where his endmill was, and he suggested that it was "somewhere over there on that side of the shop". When I looked at the table, he had crashed the end mill into the vise with such speed and efficiency it was evident that it hardly made a mark before attempting low orbit trajectory.
7/9/2025 1:00:15 PM EDT
[#20]
I buy used equipment so I can blame any dings on the previous owner
EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
7/9/2025 4:54:34 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123:
I watched a kid clamp the half nuts down to thread something, then walk away to do another task anticipating that he would make it back by the time the threading operation was done. Unfortunately for all involved, he was threading at a pretty high speed and it caused quite the crash.

On another occasion, I asked him where his endmill was, and he suggested that it was "somewhere over there on that side of the shop". When I looked at the table, he had crashed the end mill into the vise with such speed and efficiency it was evident that it hardly made a mark before attempting low orbit trajectory.
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Ouch!

I love my Hardinge and it's auto stop when threading. Never unlock the half nut on the Hardinge. Just run the carriage back and forth. It'll stop wherever you set it to stop and just hang out for you to come back.


I broke a 3/4 carbide endmill in a section of railroad track once. Was profiling it for a blacksmith buddy, set the power feed on the mill and turned around to do something. Everything became silent which is when I turned back around and saw the railroad section at a 45 in the vise with an endmill stuck in it. Spindle happily spinning with the rest of the shank! My hydraulic power feeds are gnarly!
7/10/2025 1:43:58 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By seek2:
Nothing like doing a G0 forgetting there's something in the way and hearing the "tink" cracking noise carbide bits make as they enter the next phase of their life.
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I think it's how he would have wanted to go...
"When you need it and ain't got it, you're singin' a different tune..."

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