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12/21/2025 7:24:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.
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Its exactly whats driven the rise of people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson.
12/21/2025 11:26:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Looks more like an ant farm.
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Looks more like an ant farm.


Hopi tribe said as much - Anu Sinom is a wild one.

The Legend of the Ant People

According to Hopi mythology, the Ant People, or Anu Sinom, are believed to be an ancient and advanced civilization that once coexisted with the Hopi tribe during a time of great turmoil. As the story goes, the Hopi people faced impending cataclysmic events, such as droughts, famine, and other natural disasters, that threatened their very existence.

In their time of need, the Ant People extended a helping hand to the Hopi. Legend has it that the Ant People guided the tribe to underground sanctuaries, providing shelter and sustenance until the surface world became habitable once again. This assistance from the Ant People is said to have saved the Hopi from extinction, instilling a profound sense of gratitude and reverence for these mysterious beings.


https://mythlok.com/blogs/hopi-ant-people/

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12/22/2025 9:38:25 AM EDT
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How intelligent can insects be?  Assuming they are insects.  From the fossil record, giant insects were rulers of the Earth a very long time ago.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/22/2025 9:47:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sq40:
How intelligent can insects be?  Assuming they are insects.  From the fossil record, giant insects were rulers of the Earth a very long time ago.
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Without doubt there is an awful lot we don't and never will know.  Just take our tiny ants now and look at how fucking strong they are compared to their tiny size.  Imagine one human sized.  They could have been able to carry the huge blocks that built the pyramids.  Maybe they are giant fucking anthills for all we know.
12/22/2025 1:05:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet.

It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.
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Simply, well said.
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7/6/2026 4:40:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:

Remember that old B&W 50's scifi flick, The Mole People? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
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Isn’t that the one where a tribe of humans enslaved these creatures to do their dirty work and executed/sacrificed people by exposing them to light coming down via a crack in the earth?
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7/7/2026 3:41:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M1A4ME:

The humans hiding from the lizard people.
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Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
Lizard People

The humans hiding from the lizard people.


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7/7/2026 3:57:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet.

It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Just like "ceremonial" being the blanket definition for "anything we find that we don't understand".


Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools.  "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes.  You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber.  The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals."

There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet.

It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.


Why don't archaeologists find interesting stuff, then pass off to geophysicists to date and finally anthropologists to determine purpose and use of whatever thingamajig was unearthed.

My gripe is in Archeologists acting like the FBI on any crime scene, they are in charge and they lose things themselves because they demanded everything and got it so all ends up lost.

Why can't the related field people just get along?    I deal with ME as an EE since I only know how much power the servo needs and the size of it, not the metal it needs to be mounted to, and not the case because marketing takes care of that.    You can always tell when working with a test instrument, couple red couple black leads, 3 toggle switches and one slide switch, 4 lights, zero documentation.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
7/7/2026 4:24:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By builderbob12:
were they hideing from someone or something thats the question
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This.
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7/7/2026 4:36:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Oldgold:

This.
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Originally Posted By builderbob12:
were they hideing from someone or something thats the question

This.

Even bigger question is did they survive?
7/7/2026 6:33:03 PM EDT
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Impossible Places | Geological Wonders Scientists Can’t Explain | 4K Documentary
7/7/2026 8:21:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


Why don't archaeologists find interesting stuff, then pass off to geophysicists to date and finally anthropologists to determine purpose and use of whatever thingamajig was unearthed.

My gripe is in Archeologists acting like the FBI on any crime scene, they are in charge and they lose things themselves because they demanded everything and got it so all ends up lost.

Why can't the related field people just get along?    I deal with ME as an EE since I only know how much power the servo needs and the size of it, not the metal it needs to be mounted to, and not the case because marketing takes care of that.    You can always tell when working with a test instrument, couple red couple black leads, 3 toggle switches and one slide switch, 4 lights, zero documentation.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Just like "ceremonial" being the blanket definition for "anything we find that we don't understand".


Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools.  "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes.  You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber.  The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals."

There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet.

It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.


Why don't archaeologists find interesting stuff, then pass off to geophysicists to date and finally anthropologists to determine purpose and use of whatever thingamajig was unearthed.

My gripe is in Archeologists acting like the FBI on any crime scene, they are in charge and they lose things themselves because they demanded everything and got it so all ends up lost.

Why can't the related field people just get along?    I deal with ME as an EE since I only know how much power the servo needs and the size of it, not the metal it needs to be mounted to, and not the case because marketing takes care of that.    You can always tell when working with a test instrument, couple red couple black leads, 3 toggle switches and one slide switch, 4 lights, zero documentation.


Well, to answer the second part of the question first... archaeology is anthropology. It's a sub-discipline of that field that typically deals with any human activity in the realm of near history, say 20,000 years ago to today. Anthropology as a whole is concerned with all of human (and hominid) history up to 7+ million years ago. Or more now, I haven't kept up. In any event, an archaeologist is just a specialized anthropologist, just like an anthropologist might have a specialty in a certain type of hominid. We all take the same classes in college, then people specialize in something in grad school. Archaeologists usually specialize in a certain culture, anthropologists in a certain time, geographical area, or hominid species.

Then you put the paleontologists right alongside them, they're just interested in animals instead of people. Same basic classes, techniques, and so on, different sub-sets and specialties.

Geologists and geophysicists however, are in a completely different building and do not learn the same things. Most of them end up working in an oil field somewhere analyzing samples or looking for the next well. Those that don't might become teachers, or some other portion of the field, but the number of them that are actually interested in another field like archaeology enough to delve into it and start analyzing things is vanishingly small. Then most of those come up with some woo-woo ideas based off sketch evidence, set up a YouTube channel to make money, and keep pushing more and more outlandish theories.

What you're left with is a tiny subset of the population who would be interested in doing serious science like, say, analyzing the erosion patterns in the Sphinx enclosure, but none of them can ever agree on anything. They're usually contradicting each other's claims. And most of what they're doing is hypothetical anyway, as any real dating techniques in the geological field typically give you dates in MYA, not TYA. That makes them all but useless for archaeological work.

A note on dating. People poo-poo carbon dating, but it's solid science. It can be cross-checked against other methods, and has been. Take an area that has a great tree-ring dataset going back thousands of years. Those are pretty rock solid. Then when the carbon dates come back and match those, and relative dating techniques agree, it's a safe bet that the science behind it is sound. So when you use it at another site, you can believe the results. Is it perfect? Hell nah. Does it have issues on occasion? Sure.

But most of the people who dismiss it are doing so based on the dates that come back not fitting their pet woo-woo theory, so they're angry that there's some form of proof they're wrong. Since everything they came up with is usually based on logical fallacies anyway, those who believe are going to keep doing so, and those who never did will keep dismissing it, except now with actual evidence.
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7/8/2026 1:20:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

Well, to answer the second part of the question first... archaeology is anthropology. It's a sub-discipline of that field that typically deals with any human activity in the realm of near history, say 20,000 years ago to today. Anthropology as a whole is concerned with all of human (and hominid) history up to 7+ million years ago. Or more now, I haven't kept up. In any event, an archaeologist is just a specialized anthropologist, just like an anthropologist might have a specialty in a certain type of hominid. We all take the same classes in college, then people specialize in something in grad school. Archaeologists usually specialize in a certain culture, anthropologists in a certain time, geographical area, or hominid species.

Then you put the paleontologists right alongside them, they're just interested in animals instead of people. Same basic classes, techniques, and so on, different sub-sets and specialties.

Geologists and geophysicists however, are in a completely different building and do not learn the same things. Most of them end up working in an oil field somewhere analyzing samples or looking for the next well. Those that don't might become teachers, or some other portion of the field, but the number of them that are actually interested in another field like archaeology enough to delve into it and start analyzing things is vanishingly small. Then most of those come up with some woo-woo ideas based off sketch evidence, set up a YouTube channel to make money, and keep pushing more and more outlandish theories.

What you're left with is a tiny subset of the population who would be interested in doing serious science like, say, analyzing the erosion patterns in the Sphinx enclosure, but none of them can ever agree on anything. They're usually contradicting each other's claims. And most of what they're doing is hypothetical anyway, as any real dating techniques in the geological field typically give you dates in MYA, not TYA. That makes them all but useless for archaeological work.

A note on dating. People poo-poo carbon dating, but it's solid science. It can be cross-checked against other methods, and has been. Take an area that has a great tree-ring dataset going back thousands of years. Those are pretty rock solid. Then when the carbon dates come back and match those, and relative dating techniques agree, it's a safe bet that the science behind it is sound. So when you use it at another site, you can believe the results. Is it perfect? Hell nah. Does it have issues on occasion? Sure.

But most of the people who dismiss it are doing so based on the dates that come back not fitting their pet woo-woo theory, so they're angry that there's some form of proof they're wrong. Since everything they came up with is usually based on logical fallacies anyway, those who believe are going to keep doing so, and those who never did will keep dismissing it, except now with actual evidence.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Just like "ceremonial" being the blanket definition for "anything we find that we don't understand".


Imagine archaeologists 100,000 years from now when manual labor is no longer a thing finding a chest full of Snap-On tools.  "Ah yes, clearly these items were for ceremonial purposes.  You can tell by the decorative outer surface and how dearly they were kept protected within this locked chamber.  The wheels on the bottom were so the priest could move his ceremonial talismans from place to place while sharing the sacred myths with the locals."

There's a whole write-up from decades ago that we read in archaeology classes in college, about the dangers of that very thing. It goes on and on about the ceremonial nature of the water well found in the dwelling, how central and important it and the room it was in must have been, what religious purposes it may have served, and at the end you finally realize the "far-future archaeologist" author is describing a toilet.

It's a very real phenomenon, just slapping the same label on stuff you don't understand so you can get your paper published.


Why don't archaeologists find interesting stuff, then pass off to geophysicists to date and finally anthropologists to determine purpose and use of whatever thingamajig was unearthed.

My gripe is in Archeologists acting like the FBI on any crime scene, they are in charge and they lose things themselves because they demanded everything and got it so all ends up lost.

Why can't the related field people just get along?    I deal with ME as an EE since I only know how much power the servo needs and the size of it, not the metal it needs to be mounted to, and not the case because marketing takes care of that.    You can always tell when working with a test instrument, couple red couple black leads, 3 toggle switches and one slide switch, 4 lights, zero documentation.


Well, to answer the second part of the question first... archaeology is anthropology. It's a sub-discipline of that field that typically deals with any human activity in the realm of near history, say 20,000 years ago to today. Anthropology as a whole is concerned with all of human (and hominid) history up to 7+ million years ago. Or more now, I haven't kept up. In any event, an archaeologist is just a specialized anthropologist, just like an anthropologist might have a specialty in a certain type of hominid. We all take the same classes in college, then people specialize in something in grad school. Archaeologists usually specialize in a certain culture, anthropologists in a certain time, geographical area, or hominid species.

Then you put the paleontologists right alongside them, they're just interested in animals instead of people. Same basic classes, techniques, and so on, different sub-sets and specialties.

Geologists and geophysicists however, are in a completely different building and do not learn the same things. Most of them end up working in an oil field somewhere analyzing samples or looking for the next well. Those that don't might become teachers, or some other portion of the field, but the number of them that are actually interested in another field like archaeology enough to delve into it and start analyzing things is vanishingly small. Then most of those come up with some woo-woo ideas based off sketch evidence, set up a YouTube channel to make money, and keep pushing more and more outlandish theories.

What you're left with is a tiny subset of the population who would be interested in doing serious science like, say, analyzing the erosion patterns in the Sphinx enclosure, but none of them can ever agree on anything. They're usually contradicting each other's claims. And most of what they're doing is hypothetical anyway, as any real dating techniques in the geological field typically give you dates in MYA, not TYA. That makes them all but useless for archaeological work.

A note on dating. People poo-poo carbon dating, but it's solid science. It can be cross-checked against other methods, and has been. Take an area that has a great tree-ring dataset going back thousands of years. Those are pretty rock solid. Then when the carbon dates come back and match those, and relative dating techniques agree, it's a safe bet that the science behind it is sound. So when you use it at another site, you can believe the results. Is it perfect? Hell nah. Does it have issues on occasion? Sure.

But most of the people who dismiss it are doing so based on the dates that come back not fitting their pet woo-woo theory, so they're angry that there's some form of proof they're wrong. Since everything they came up with is usually based on logical fallacies anyway, those who believe are going to keep doing so, and those who never did will keep dismissing it, except now with actual evidence.


I'm not disputing how it is, but I think there could be a better solution.  One to identify and excavate sites and another specializing in identifying purpose and maybe one more for languges, specifically, similarity in characters to other languages globally.    There's been some pretty wild finds and observations on youtube regarding written language similarities as well a sother things.

Lastly, while some took faith pretty seriously, to the level of watering pyramids with blood in Mexico, they can't say everything was religious, example is Pompeii where the murals still exist showing the different sex options.  All the pictures are around the top edges on all 4 walls, apparently for those who couldn't read or those having a language without licentious words to explain, but that's all over and next to the "ceremonial slab" or "ceremonial bath".      I don't disagree that there were ceremonial parts, but that doesn't mean everything found is related.   One guess is allowed, and then it becomes a sort of law and no second guessing or re-examination is allowed if you aren't a PhD or have hide like a GD mod.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
7/8/2026 2:58:51 PM EDT
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It would be fascinating to see what all these places were in their prime conditions.

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7/8/2026 3:08:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid:
There are also caves found in japan.

Makes you wonder what they were hiding from. Definitely not from a flood. Maybe similar things as "ragnarok", or what randall carlson and graham hancock are saying ancient stone monuments and mounds are pointing to: cataclysmic celestial events.
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Or maybe Caves, and underground tunnels/structures are warmer in the winter months, and cooler in the summer months?  
9/2/2026 10:54:05 AM EDT
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Yeah this is AI and i absolutely hate this narration voice but if something even remotely like this is really uncovered  by the current digging it is going to change everything.  And it does appear that it is really there.
I don’t know if it’s possible to dig the entire thing out but even just a portion will prove it true.
I mean seriously WTF was going on there????

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