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Originally Posted By 2minkey: No. This revisionist crap is ridiculous. The structures are dated. There is some stuff there which is pre-Inca in the deeper layers (as discovered in the 80s). The main part of the structure was clearly built during the Inca empire. |
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Originally Posted By motown_steve:
The Anunnaki. 
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Originally Posted By Bigtard:
I believe the Antediluvian civilizations were far more advanced than is generally believed. And then came the cataclysm around 12k years ago that wiped most of the planet clean. |
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Yep. Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By Bigtard:
I believe the Antediluvian civilizations were far more advanced than is generally believed. And then came the cataclysm around 12k years ago that wiped most of the planet clean. |
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I was watching some history show trying several hypothetical techniques to precision cut stone. There is no way they could have done that kind of work in 2 lifetimes.
Dry sanding, dry cutting, wet sanding, wet cutting, score and burn with hot coals, etc. Every method will work but to smooth like 6 inches a day with a dozen people would take forever even if they were perfect with no mis-cuts. |
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Originally Posted By GreyGhost:
Don't confuse 'em with the facts. If you really want to get them foaming at the mouth tell them Bigfoot doesn't exist,there are no aliens at area 51 and the Earth is not flat. Originally Posted By GreyGhost:
Originally Posted By JAD762:
https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Its_118505_1004637.jpg Let me give you a hint on how I know this was done by indigenous populations. Advanced societies work in composites & advanced materials, primitive societies work in stone. If you really want to get them foaming at the mouth tell them Bigfoot doesn't exist,there are no aliens at area 51 and the Earth is not flat. I've always kind of enjoyed Bigfoot threads, just because they're generally light hearted with one or two trolls or true believers. But with the Q thread and the last couple UFO threads we've had, I've started to really wonder. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
https://i.redd.it/5g4du6bo56t11.jpg https://www.ancient.eu/img/r/p/500x600/2372.jpg?v=1485680624 https://ashtronort.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/anim-17-sided-stone-inca-stonework1.gif?w=547 The last picture here, an expert mason would struggle to cut that with diamond edge tools  |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
The fact that these stones are made of granite. They were cut without any metal tools having been invented yet. Many of these stones had right angle inside corners cut into them. Try cutting a right angle inside corner using modern tools. It makes you wonder why they cut such elaborately shaped stones when square or rectangular stones would have been much easier to cut and stack.  |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
unskilled slaves were doing complicated stone cutting? Whether the Olmec,Mayans,Incas or Aztecs the ruling elite kept a skilled class of artisans such as potters,stone masons,painters,weavers etc.The people who moved the stones may have been slaves but the stone masons surely were not. |
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Originally Posted By ShermiesRule:
I was watching some history show trying several hypothetical techniques to precision cut stone. There is no way they could have done that kind of work in 2 lifetimes. Dry sanding, dry cutting, wet sanding, wet cutting, score and burn with hot coals, etc. Every method will work but to smooth like 6 inches a day with a dozen people would take forever even if they were perfect with no mis-cuts. And the fact that all this was done on top of a mountain is even more impressive.
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
unskilled slaves were doing complicated stone cutting? Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By w15ly: It's impressive how much can be accomplished with slave labor. |
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Originally Posted By Storz:
Exactly this, the ash layer that defines the Younger-Drays line is evidence of such a cataclysm. Originally Posted By Storz:
Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By Bigtard:
I believe the Antediluvian civilizations were far more advanced than is generally believed. And then came the cataclysm around 12k years ago that wiped most of the planet clean. |
Not fly enough to be halal....
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Yep. Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By Bigtard:
I believe the Antediluvian civilizations were far more advanced than is generally believed. And then came the cataclysm around 12k years ago that wiped most of the planet clean. Or someone figured out how to smelt iron and invented the wheel in the Americas and it was lost a long time before the Inca moved in. American Indians were making copper stuff 7K years ago in the upper mid west. knowhow is gained and lost. |
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I remember a demo of a guy who created a very nice stone cube about the size of a bowling ball, wonderful sharp ninety degree corners. The ONLY tool he used was another stone, round, also about the size of a bowling ball. All it took was pounding one stone against the other, though with much practice and knowledge of exactly where and how hard to strike.
It speaks more of these cultures that they could create enough of a food surplus that people could take all the time needed to do this stonework. |
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Originally Posted By Bigtard:
I believe the Antediluvian civilizations were far more advanced than is generally believed. And then came the cataclysm around 12k years ago that wiped most of the planet clean. I like the way Gordon Hancock puts it, “The human race as a whole has amnesia.” |
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Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
I remember a demo of a guy who created a very nice stone cube about the size of a bowling ball, wonderful sharp ninety degree corners. The ONLY tool he used was another stone, round, also about the size of a bowling ball. All it took was pounding one stone against the other, though with much practice and knowledge of exactly where and how hard to strike. It speaks more of these cultures that they could create enough of a food surplus that people could take all the time needed to do this stonework. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
unskilled slaves were doing complicated stone cutting? Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By w15ly: It's impressive how much can be accomplished with slave labor. |
Not fly enough to be halal....
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Originally Posted By wakeboarder:
Link to book supporting this idea? Originally Posted By wakeboarder:
Originally Posted By BB:
Machu Picchu was built in the 15th century; the reason it looks like less skilled labor built on top of it is because when it was "found" it was in ruins and what you see today is the effort to rebuild the thing by people that dont have a month to rub two stones together to get them to fit. Read a book for cryin out loud. |
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Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
I remember a demo of a guy who created a very nice stone cube about the size of a bowling ball, wonderful sharp ninety degree corners. The ONLY tool he used was another stone, round, also about the size of a bowling ball. All it took was pounding one stone against the other, though with much practice and knowledge of exactly where and how hard to strike. It speaks more of these cultures that they could create enough of a food surplus that people could take all the time needed to do this stonework. ETA Like some of the inside corners cut in this Bolivian stone. 
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Scientists are just realizing that we got hit about 12000 years ago by a asteroid in Greenland. This may very well be where the flood stories of the Bible and many other religions came from. Some of these stone monuments may have been made prior to the impact and man came back to use and improve on them.
Sphinx may be older than the Egyptians. Some see weathering from water and that couldn’t have happened unless it was 12000 years old. Also rumored to have a chamber underneath it with records. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: emmhmm Or someone figured out how to smelt iron and invented the wheel in the Americas and it was lost a long time before the Inca moved in. American Indians were making copper stuff 7K years ago in the upper mid west. knowhow is gained and lost. |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can’t you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn’t they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. |
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Kind of off topic but still relevant to this thread. Yesterday I was watching the history channel and I found out Abraham Lincoln was a slave, Racist, lazy , a liar, and homosexual. That's why the homo wing of the GOP call themselves "Log Cabin Republicans". |
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| It's just a matter of labor. Yes, they're impressive, but enough people and time can shape granite in that matter. What is amazing is the size and scope, as it would appear to take several generations of nonstop work to do it. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover:
The fact that these stones are made of granite. Well its popular in the area. Also Granite isn't indestructable They were cut without any metal tools having been invented yet. Well obviously they were or they wouldn't exist. Many of these stones had right angle inside corners cut into them. Mathematics and stone-working are not new concepts Try cutting a right angle inside corner using modern tools. LOL It makes you wonder why they cut such elaborately shaped stones when square or rectangular stones would have been much easier to cut and stack. |
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Originally Posted By RIO-lover: Exactly And the fact that all this was done on top of a mountain is even more impressive. Pumapunku is right around 13,000 feet and some of the stones used weighed 100+ tons and were quarried 6 miles away. Imagine the logistics problems you'd face maintaining a sizable labor force 2.5 miles above sea level. Growing food on site using primitive agriculture at elevation or just creating a system to bring food up from the lowlands is a feat in its own right. |
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Originally Posted By headstoner: I disagree, cuts like that are easier to make in stone than they are in a fresh loaf of bread. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464920/now-you-know-and-knowing-is-half-the-battle_2-711059.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Fidel_Cashflow:
What's more likely? A bunch of people working under slave labor conditions spent an obscene amount of time shaping and stacking rocks with primitive tools. or Aliens with the technology for interstellar travel came down from the sky to build stone forts on mountain top because reasons. |
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Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
I remember a demo of a guy who created a very nice stone cube about the size of a bowling ball, wonderful sharp ninety degree corners. The ONLY tool he used was another stone, round, also about the size of a bowling ball. All it took was pounding one stone against the other, though with much practice and knowledge of exactly where and how hard to strike. It speaks more of these cultures that they could create enough of a food surplus that people could take all the time needed to do this stonework. |
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Originally Posted By 0100010:
Puma Punku too. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/PUMA_PUNKU%2C_TIAJUANACO%2C_BOLIVIA.jpg 
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Not a lot smarter but another year old...
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Originally Posted By WildBoar:
This but then again most here believe in member here that can travel time, bigfoot and alien abductions. Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can’t you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn’t they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. Granite construction exists in South America, Africa, India, Europe, and East Asia. What makes more sense: ancient folks figured out how to do shit with what they had (you know, like they did everything else), or ancient visitors traveled across the galaxy, cut rocks for them (leaving no other traces of their passage or other evidence), then hauled ass. Hey, some dude on the internet said it’s impossible... must be aliens. |
Not fly enough to be halal....
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Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The Aliens had bigfeet bring them food, duh P.S. I subscribe to the Nephilim theory. |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Yeah, I know. Sigh... Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can’t you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn’t they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. *GUNT |
Not a lot smarter but another year old...
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Originally Posted By FistPeso:
The ancients that occupied that area did have very large feet. The giant skeletons found in that region tell a different tale than what you believe. P.S. I subscribe to the Nephilim theory. Originally Posted By FistPeso:
Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The Aliens had bigfeet bring them food, duh P.S. I subscribe to the Nephilim theory. |
Not fly enough to be halal....
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The Peruvians have taken some great liberties in "reconstructing" the site. That probably bears some mention, especially since he's showing photos of the modern reconstruction. We know who did this. Someone still probably has their paystubs in their file cabinet.
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