What is your general opinion of Citizen watches? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 1/23/2026 1:11:41 PM EDT
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I'm curious to read what the general opinion here is regarding Citizen watches? I get that they aren't high end time pieces and don't compare to the top Swiss brands but what I'm asking is, how do you think they compare to other major Japanese watch brands in their price range like Seiko, Casio, Orient, etc.? The reason I ask... Citizen watches can be found everywhere. Seems like most people have had at least one of them at some point or another in their life? I rarely hear anybody say anything all the negative about them but yet, they don't get recommended or talked about that much either? They don't have the same kind of brand loyalty/fan base that companies like Seiko and Casio enjoy. Lots of people collect Seiko's and Casio's (specifically GShocks) but you don't hear about people collecting Citizen watches and I'm kind of curious why you think that might be? Or let me ask it in a different way... Do any of avoid buying Citizen watches or consider the brand less desirable then say Seiko or Casio? If so, why? |
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I think they compare very well to Seiko watches in the same price range. The Tsuyoa is one of the better sub $500 watches on the market IMHO. ![]()
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Brand as a whole is just another corporate game. They have good mid-level watches with nice features, but you have to be careful their low-end stuff can look just like the nicer stuff. I have a Garrison eco-drive that i like. It always works and is always accurate. An under $200 watch with glass crystal that is a nice daily wear, but no anything to get excited about. I like my Bulova Wilton GMT a lot. I wear it more than any other watch. A co-worker has a Citizen dive watch i like. I will need to ask the model number. I like the Citizen dive watch styles, but i only buy sapphire crystals these days. So, that cuts out most of the cheaper watches. For cheap divers with sapphire, i would go with Long Island Watches. It is a mixed bag. Their cheap stuff is cheap. Their better stuff is good. Typical corporate scheme to milk a penny from every level of the consumer. So watch what you get, do homework. |
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
I think they compare very well to Seiko watches in the same price range. The Tsuyoa is one of the better sub $500 watches on the market IMHO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG_1807-3695600.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG_1808-3695599.jpg |
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Originally Posted By gotigers: I see you post that before. I really like that watch. What is the ref number? It’s the NJ0159-86X but it was a limited edition from a few years ago. I found this one used in a facebook watch group. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: Why don't they have the same kind of fanbois that Seiko and Casio have? I think Citizen comes across as a "non-watch guy's watch". They look (and kind of are) the type of watch a high school girl buys her boyfriend for his birthday. Or mom buys it for you when you turn 12. Same as Fossil, guess, other mall brands. I know they can be better, and the one you have on those straps looks clean, but still the brand seems to make a basic watch, no matter what it's styled after. Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up, and you have to go a bit out of your way to get one. Like a seiko store at the mall, but not Macy's. Casio is for people on both sides of the watch collecting bell curve. I saw a great graph with non-watch people absolutely rocking a casio because it's cheap and they don't care. The casual watch guys in the middle mocking it. Then the super fancy watch collector guys enjoying them because they are cheap and they don't care
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16: I think Citizen comes across as a "non-watch guy's watch". They look (and kind of are) the type of watch a high school girl buys her boyfriend for his birthday. Or mom buys it for you when you turn 12. Same as Fossil, guess, other mall brands. I know they can be better, and the one you have on those straps looks clean, but still the brand seems to make a basic watch, no matter what it's styled after. Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up, and you have to go a bit out of your way to get one. Like a seiko store at the mall, but not Macy's. Casio is for people on both sides of the watch collecting bell curve. I saw a great graph with non-watch people absolutely rocking a casio because it's cheap and they don't care. The casual watch guys in the middle mocking it. Then the super fancy watch collector guys enjoying them because they are cheap and they don't care ![]() But yeah, Citizens are common, especially amongst non-watch people so I'm sure that doesn't help their image? I do wonder about your "Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up" comment? Seiko has a very broad line but they have a lot of low end/nothing special models, maybe even just as many as Citizen? Then again, Seiko also has a lot more higher end (watch enthusiast type) options so maybe that's the difference? I've been wanting to add a Seiko to the collection for a while now but Seiko must hate me! They have so many good options but none of the ones I really want are made in a size that fits me and the watches they make that would fit me, are designs I don't really care for or want lol |
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16: Pretty much agree with this. If I were to get a Citizen I feel like I'd get one of their "cornier" Disney/Mickey watches. It kind of an amalgamation of what steviesterno16 said with a tad bit of kitsch. If that makes sense.
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Think of Seiko as like Toyota. They have a Lexus line, killer Toyota line like LC, 4Runner, etc. all the way down to basic entry level stuff. Citizen is like Nissan. They have some fantastic products like the Patrol and other utility stuff, and also way down to basic entry level stuff. They just never quite got the reputation Toyota did on their good stuff, they never really got fired up good on their Infiniti line, etc. Orient is sort of like Suzuki. |
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Seiko and G-Shock both have a history with the US military and that probably does a lot for their reputation among watch enthusiasts. I suspect that there’s a lot of overlap in the areas of watches, military history buffs, and guns. Citizen doesn’t have that association. Plus, they named an entire line of their watches “Eco-Drive”. I can’t speak for others but that’s a deal breaker for me. The environmentalist movement has become so obnoxious and hated that I won’t have anything to do with it. I see “Eco-Drive” and my brain sees “Sustainable, certified free trade, ethically sourced, environmentally responsible, nonbinary, LGBTQ, anti-colonial, pronoun-Drive”. No thanks. |
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Originally Posted By airgunner: I can see some of that but I do think they are better (quality and perception wise) then Fossil. The only places I ever see selling Fossils are dept stores (Macys, etc) or discount clubs like Costco/Sams but all those place sell lower end Citizens, Seikos, etc. too. but around here anyway, the only brand I see at the typical jewelry store is Citizen. But yeah, Citizens are common, especially amongst non-watch people so I'm sure that doesn't help their image? I do wonder about your "Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up" comment? Seiko has a very broad line but they have a lot of low end/nothing special models, maybe even just as many as Citizen? Then again, Seiko also has a lot more higher end (watch enthusiast type) options so maybe that's the difference? I've been wanting to add a Seiko to the collection for a while now but Seiko must hate me! They have so many good options but none of the ones I really want are made in a size that fits me and the watches they make that would fit me, are designs I don't really care for or want lol I agree that Citizen is a notch above fossil, but they seem to be styled similarly, and sold in the same stores around me for about the same prices. So to me that aligns them with lower end. Which is fine, I don't mean to be snobbish. I drink Kentucky Gentleman more often than I do Blanton's.... Seiko does run up and starts to get interesting to me in the ~$300 range. Plus they have a good reputation. I bought myself a seiko sport 5 I think but my son, who was in kindergarten, claimed it. He's 10 now and has beaten the ever loving shit out of it and it may have some battle scars but still runs great and glows hard. He's killed g-shocks in that same timeframe, and those were the duty rated ones Originally Posted By NickOTime: Pretty much agree with this. If I were to get a Citizen I feel like I'd get one of their "cornier" Disney/Mickey watches. It kind of an amalgamation of what steviesterno16 said with a tad bit of kitsch. If that makes sense. ![]() This is the direction I went with Invicta. Yeah I know they have some decent stuff but the one I got is a "solid gold" sub homage with some sharks printed on the dials. My kids loved it for me as a fishing watch and I got it to see if I really wanted to drop the coin on a real solid gold watch one day. Turns out I do want to.... Originally Posted By ramairthree: Think of Seiko as like Toyota. They have a Lexus line, killer Toyota line like LC, 4Runner, etc. all the way down to basic entry level stuff. Citizen is like Nissan. They have some fantastic products like the Patrol and other utility stuff, and also way down to basic entry level stuff. They just never quite got the reputation Toyota did on their good stuff, they never really got fired up good on their Infiniti line, etc. Orient is sort of like Suzuki. This is a good analogy. I think a lot of people hit a certain point of diminishing returns mindset on things they like, be it cars, guns, watches, whatever and they often seem to run together. Look at the guys posting Les Baers with their Tudors and 4runners or GX460s. All really good versions of a level of a thing, without being crazy expensive or overly flashy. |
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Seiko does have its fair share of cheap. I can spot a cheap Citizen that looks like a nice Citizen easier than i can spot a cheap Seiko that looks like a nice Seiko. Seiko has so many models and look alikes. Unless you are willing to spend a LOT of time learning Seiko, it can be overwhelming. I skip Seiko. Not bashing. Seiko has some nice watches. I would be happy with an Alpinist. For weekend bangers, i like Citizen eco drive or Nicer Bulovas. For work, i mid tier like my Oris and Chris Ward. For dressing nice, i like my Rolexex but my Omega and Tudor do get some time out to dinner. |
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Originally Posted By ramairthree: Think of Seiko as like Toyota. They have a Lexus line, killer Toyota line like LC, 4Runner, etc. all the way down to basic entry level stuff. Citizen is like Nissan. They have some fantastic products like the Patrol and other utility stuff, and also way down to basic entry level stuff. They just never quite got the reputation Toyota did on their good stuff, they never really got fired up good on their Infiniti line, etc. Orient is sort of like Suzuki. Originally Posted By ramairthree: Think of Seiko as like Toyota. They have a Lexus line, killer Toyota line like LC, 4Runner, etc. all the way down to basic entry level stuff. Citizen is like Nissan. They have some fantastic products like the Patrol and other utility stuff, and also way down to basic entry level stuff. They just never quite got the reputation Toyota did on their good stuff, they never really got fired up good on their Infiniti line, etc. Orient is sort of like Suzuki. ![]() Originally Posted By steviesterno16: I agree that Citizen is a notch above fossil, but they seem to be styled similarly, and sold in the same stores around me for about the same prices. So to me that aligns them with lower end. Originally Posted By gotigers: Seiko has so many models and look alikes. Unless you are willing to spend a LOT of time learning Seiko, it can be overwhelming. I skip Seiko. Not bashing. Seiko has some nice watches. I would be happy with an Alpinist. I have spent a fair amount of time going through Seiko's catalog but I've pretty much given up finding one that I really want and fits. I've got enough daily/beater/casual watches that I'm very happy with so at this point, I'm thinking just one more... a really nice "GADA" watch. My heart wants an Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra (the original Blue “Teak” (Spectre 007) version, not the current version) but I don't normally play in that price range for watches so we'll see lol |
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Originally Posted By Captain_Buddha: Just bought a FUGU, my first Citizen, a month or so ago, it's pretty nice, my wife thinks it looks "cheap" compared to my other timepieces, can't say that I disagree...I like it for what it is. Only thing that really sticks out to me is that the case back is a little "sharp" - meaning that it could've been tumbled/finished a little better. Overall a nice watch, this pic doesn't do it justice, it's a true automatic, that's what I like it, along with the color (I'm not capturing the blue with my photo) / two-tone. The actualy Citizen MACHINES (the Swiss-style CNC machines) used to make their watches (and that they sell to job shops/machine shops) are *really* nice...that's why I bought the watch...I'm in the manufacturing technology industry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/520287/Fugu-3676120.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/520287/Citizen-Promaster_Dive_Automatic-Fugu-3670406.png Just bought that same model watch for my dad for Christmas, but with the red on the bezel and a rubber strap. Driving factor for me was the "left-handed" crown, as he's a lefty. |
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16: I think Citizen comes across as a "non-watch guy's watch". They look (and kind of are) the type of watch a high school girl buys her boyfriend for his birthday. Or mom buys it for you when you turn 12. Same as Fossil, guess, other mall brands. I know they can be better, and the one you have on those straps looks clean, but still the brand seems to make a basic watch, no matter what it's styled after. Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up, and you have to go a bit out of your way to get one. Like a seiko store at the mall, but not Macy's. Casio is for people on both sides of the watch collecting bell curve. I saw a great graph with non-watch people absolutely rocking a casio because it's cheap and they don't care. The casual watch guys in the middle mocking it. Then the super fancy watch collector guys enjoying them because they are cheap and they don't care ![]() Originally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By airgunner: Why don't they have the same kind of fanbois that Seiko and Casio have? I think Citizen comes across as a "non-watch guy's watch". They look (and kind of are) the type of watch a high school girl buys her boyfriend for his birthday. Or mom buys it for you when you turn 12. Same as Fossil, guess, other mall brands. I know they can be better, and the one you have on those straps looks clean, but still the brand seems to make a basic watch, no matter what it's styled after. Seiko starts at a notch or 2 up, and you have to go a bit out of your way to get one. Like a seiko store at the mall, but not Macy's. Casio is for people on both sides of the watch collecting bell curve. I saw a great graph with non-watch people absolutely rocking a casio because it's cheap and they don't care. The casual watch guys in the middle mocking it. Then the super fancy watch collector guys enjoying them because they are cheap and they don't care ![]() Nailed it. Citizen is a dumb name for starters and I definitely associate them with every mall chain jewelry store and department store in America. |
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In the totem pole, higher than Casio, but lower than Seiko. This is probably my favorite (and last remaining) Citizen I own. It's my gym, lawn-mowing, and general outside work watch. If I could find a jubilee bracelet for it, I might even wear it more often, but compared to the SKX007, which it aims to mimic in appearance, it is nowhere close. |
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Originally Posted By abnk: In the totem pole, higher than Casio, but lower than Seiko. This is probably my favorite (and last remaining) Citizen I own. It's my gym, lawn-mowing, and general outside work watch. If I could find a jubilee bracelet for it, I might even wear it more often, but compared to the SKX007, which it aims to mimic in appearance, it is nowhere close. Great minds think alike, similar purpose, I have the same watch but with a black dial and I added a stainless bracelet. |
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Citizen over Seiko Citizen over Luminox Citizen Over Casios There Eco-Drive line In there Pro-Spec dive watches Are the best in their weight class IMO There radio time is great also, but a BITCH to set!! If you are looking at There Automatic, spend alittle more and get a Tissot If you want to have & build you watch collection wirh our breaking the band & spending a hundred here & there, you could do a lot worse than Citizen |
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Originally Posted By Yankee-Carpet-Bagger: Great minds think alike, similar purpose, I have the same watch but with a black dial and I added a stainless bracelet. www.amazon.com/dp/B007FMAKUG Originally Posted By Yankee-Carpet-Bagger: Originally Posted By abnk: In the totem pole, higher than Casio, but lower than Seiko. This is probably my favorite (and last remaining) Citizen I own. It's my gym, lawn-mowing, and general outside work watch. If I could find a jubilee bracelet for it, I might even wear it more often, but compared to the SKX007, which it aims to mimic in appearance, it is nowhere close. Great minds think alike, similar purpose, I have the same watch but with a black dial and I added a stainless bracelet. www.amazon.com/dp/B007FMAKUG Apologies, mine has the black dial also (model BN0150-28E), but I linked to the wrong one. In my defense, I am color-blind. ![]() And thank you for the bracelet suggestion.
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I have several Citizens. I know their lower end isn’t the best but I try to stay in their mid to higher range of watches. The Promaster’s are amazing watches for the money. I’m having a new one delivered tomorrow actually, a Blue Angels Skyhawk A-T. My best friend is a dive master and that’s all he will wear. He says they have a huge following in the diving community and a very solid reputation. I have a Promaster dive watch that I have beaten to hell and back and I absolutely love it. I have a Seiko Solar Flightmaster Chronograph also and I would say the quality is about the same between it and my Citizen’s. Now days I’m leaning more towards Seiko just because I like their designs and history, but I will still buy Citizen’s as well. |
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I have a few and used to wear them to the office the diving one was a gift from my wife, and I love it. Not crazy expensive but still a nice watch. They are What most consider the start of nice watches as most are over $100 and you can find them on sale like my wife did (she has one too) I have two divers versions (one with rubber strap and one with metal band) and one a chronograph with leather strap. The chronograph I hardly wear though and love my two divers watches. One looks just like my sieko dive watch I had in the Marines years ago. Zero maintenance on them too so far All are eco drive. I consider them like the guys who make bank but still drive a Subaru or Toyota. They like nice things, but they don't have to be expensive or showy. I always get compliments on them. At my last Job before I retired I was the only person with an analog watch in board meetings and started a trend away from smart watches with the coworkers. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By abnk: In the totem pole, higher than Casio, but lower than Seiko. This is probably my favorite (and last remaining) Citizen I own. It's my gym, lawn-mowing, and general outside work watch. If I could find a jubilee bracelet for it, I might even wear it more often, but compared to the SKX007, which it aims to mimic in appearance, it is nowhere close. Long Island Watch has one...I have the Oyster on my Citizen Promaster... https://longislandwatch.com/islander-20mm-brushed-and-polished-solid-link-watch-bracelet-for-citizen-promaster-quartz-dive-watch-brac-36/ |
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Originally Posted By cjroman: Long Island Watch has one...I have the Oyster on my Citizen Promaster... https://longislandwatch.com/islander-20mm-brushed-and-polished-solid-link-watch-bracelet-for-citizen-promaster-quartz-dive-watch-brac-36/ Originally Posted By cjroman: Originally Posted By abnk: In the totem pole, higher than Casio, but lower than Seiko. This is probably my favorite (and last remaining) Citizen I own. It's my gym, lawn-mowing, and general outside work watch. If I could find a jubilee bracelet for it, I might even wear it more often, but compared to the SKX007, which it aims to mimic in appearance, it is nowhere close. Long Island Watch has one...I have the Oyster on my Citizen Promaster... https://longislandwatch.com/islander-20mm-brushed-and-polished-solid-link-watch-bracelet-for-citizen-promaster-quartz-dive-watch-brac-36/ Thank you. I ordered that one last night. |
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I like the one I own. My wife has been wearing hers for like 20 years with no need to change a battery. hve more expensive watches but honestly, these things are a great value. Think I paid $175 for mine and it's taken a beating over the last 10 years....zero issues. If you want a nice looking middle-road watch that you won't have to do shit as far as maintenance - I'm not sure these can be beat AND there is a million versions on their site. ![]() https://www.citizenwatch.com/us/en/product/BN0191-55L.html?cgid=promaster |
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Why don't they have the same kind of fanbois that Seiko and Casio have? Some of their stuff has a definite Invicta vibe, and Invicta, to me, says Jersey Shore mixed with some Russian costume bling. That being said, I do have one of these Citizen BN0158 by FredMan, on Flickr
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Originally Posted By dayphotog: I have a few and used to wear them to the office the diving one was a gift from my wife, and I love it. Not crazy expensive but still a nice watch. They are What most consider the start of nice watches as most are over $100 and you can find them on sale like my wife did (she has one too) I have two divers versions (one with rubber strap and one with metal band) and one a chronograph with leather strap. The chronograph I hardly wear though and love my two divers watches. One looks just like my sieko dive watch I had in the Marines years ago. Zero maintenance on them too so far All are eco drive. I consider them like the guys who make bank but still drive a Subaru or Toyota. They like nice things, but they don't have to be expensive or showy. I always get compliments on them. At my last Job before I retired I was the only person with an analog watch in board meetings and started a trend away from smart watches with the coworkers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65995/IMG_0759_jpeg-3701449.JPG I recently lost that exact same watch. You pic made my stomach hurt |
| I have 3 Citizens and like them quite well. One is a titanium diver, one is a more traditional diver, and one is a very basic field watch. They've all held time well and been trouble free. I feel like they look good enough to be nice, not overly pretentious wrist candy (if that's your thing that's ok, I'm just not a flashy guy), and they've proven durable/reliable. I think they're nothing overly special, but a very good bang for the buck everyday watch. |
Teddy just released this. Haven't watched it yet, but figured it was pertinent to this discussion.![]() The Tiers of Citizen Watches - Entry-Level to Luxury |
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I'm not a watch guy but I do have a Citizen Weekender Eco-Drive that I have been wearing almost every day for 14 years. I bought it because I was intrigued by the idea of never having to get a battery changed. It's just a basic analog watch with a day/date window. The crystal is a little beat up. The original band is long gone. I cycle NATO type watch bands on it. It keeps good time and just keeps working. I would buy another. |
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@Yankee-Carpet-Bagger @cjroman Long Island Watch was very quick with the shipping, but I didn't get a chance to install it until a few days after. After wearing it for a few days, including a couple of times at the gym, I'm quite happy with it. It's much more rigid than the Seiko Jubilee, but, with the Eco-Drives being lighter than an automatic, it is not uncomfortable at all. I think it's big improvement. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By abnk: @Yankee-Carpet-Bagger @cjroman Long Island Watch was very quick with the shipping, but I didn't get a chance to install it until a few days after. After wearing it for a few days, including a couple of times at the gym, I'm quite happy with it. It's much more rigid than the Seiko Jubilee, but, with the Eco-Drives being lighter than an automatic, it is not uncomfortable at all. I think it's big improvement. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59617/fullsizeoutput_1118_jpeg-3709167.JPG Nice. It dresses it up nicely. |
























