Posted: 2/13/2022 3:31:23 PM EDT
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Before I start I must clarify….I will look at the raw data, not all the one-line statement in all these Pal-reviewed or Gov articles that say to protect yourself you need to be jabbed. Statements like this mean nothing, data if not corrupted means something. This data may not be the best but probably the most consistent in following a trend. I do also use a few articles that quote stuff the CDC or others statements where people are "part of the big club...that I am not in." Okay to the data, when did this shit show start: From the CDC : https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html •Timelineicon December 12, 2019 A cluster of patients in Wuhan, Hubei Providence, China begin to experience shortness of breath and fever. •Timelineicon December 31, 2019 The World Health Organization China Country Office is informed of a number cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province. All cases connected to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan. •2020 •Timelineicon January 17, 2020 CDC deploys a team to Washington state to assist with contact tracing efforts in response to the first reported case of 2019-nCOV in the U.S. •Timelineicon January 20, 2020 CDC confirms the first U.S. laboratory-confirmed case of COVID-19 in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state. So, this gives a baseline of before Jan 17th 2020 the US had Kung Flu, 349 days left of 2020. Most likely it was in the US well before the CDC reported case but we will stick with the CDC data on this. On Dec 11th 2020 the Pfizer EUA jab was authorized by the FDA, a week later Moderna got its EUA for a jab. Lets go to here…the American Journal of Managed Care….. The American Journal of Managed Care is a monthly peer-reviewed medical journal published by Managed Care & Healthcare Communications. The editors-in-chief are A. Mark Fendrick and Michael E. Chernew. https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid-19-vaccine-developments-in-2021 January 19 California COVID-19 Variant May Be Vaccine Resistant Following genetic sequencing, researchers report that current vaccines may not be strong enough against the L452R variant, first identified in Denmark in March 2020 before surfacing in California in May. Prevalence of this variant is growing, with 1 comparison showing a jump from 3.8% of samples tested in late November to early December 2020 to 25.2% of samples tested in late December 2020 to early January 2021. Damn, just over a month from FDA EUA approval and already is becoming vaccine resistant to a strand that was identified in Mar of 2020...9 months prior to approval…how much science went into this….  January 27 US Vaccine Supply to Increase by 50% The Biden administration plans to purchase 200 million more COVID-19 vaccine doses to be delivered through the summer, adding to the 400 million doses already manufactured. Vaccine distribution to states additionally increased from 8.6 million to 10 million, a 16% bump in doses. So we have 400 million doses by the end of Jan 2021 (that have shown to be not quite up to snuff..  ). We started vaccinating the elderly and people with compromised immune systems first to reduce the death rate since these seem to be the highest risk from all the data (not going to post a link as I think 99% agree with this statement).. They also gave people like healthcare workers a get in front of the line pass. As a jab timeline we can start here: https://news.arizona.edu/story/55-and-older-now-eligible-covid-19-vaccination-university-arizona-site So, we have now jabbed the elderly and high risk from dying of kung flu by say the end of March to be generous. As a note, from the Census of 2020 there is roughly 16% of the US population over the age of 65 out of 330 million, they should be good to go. This is roughly 53 million people fully jabbed. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPPOP65UPTOZSUSA By May we get this…okay night not fit the pal-reviewed or Gov direct source but the data did come from a White House press release. 50% of the US is fully vaccinated by the end of May..but in April https://www.foxnews.com/us/half-americans-vaccinated-white-house As of April 30, more than 10,000 breakthrough cases have been reported in 46 states and U.S. territories; among them, 6,446 (63%) of cases occurred in females and the median patient age was 58. ...Nearly 1,000 (10%) of people with breakthrough infections were hospitalized, and 160 of whom died.  – how many were not included in this report as they were not tested in 2021????https://www.verywellhealth.com/cdc-covid-testing-not-necessary-for-vaccinated-people-5186489 COVID Testing Isn't All That Necessary Anymore The new guidance is promising, William Schaffner, MD, an infectious disease specialist and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, tells Verywell. “This set of recommendations means that the CDC has terrific confidence in the COVID vaccine and that they anticipate that vaccinated people only very occasionally will be the source of infection for anyone else," he says. ETA....it gets worse...look at this propaganda study saying that IVM doesn't work, this report came out after this thread was created so now added: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362?resultClick=1 This study was done by JAMA, just look below how they are influenced to get the "results" they did....but in the mean time you can read a few bits of this Study was done from May to Oct of 2021....51% of the patients were fully vaccinated......THEY KNEW THE JAB DIDN'T STOP IT BUT STLL STOPPED TESTING PEOPLE WITH KUNG FLU FOR REPORTING.......  Also starting May 1st all people over the age of 18 can get vaccinated per Biden press conference. Yet in July 2021 Biden, the head of ALL the 3 letter agencies with the best https://www.the-sun.com/news/3337872/biden-wrong-covid-vaccine-claim-breakthrough-infections/ Now let’s look at some real data…. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211122/us-covid-deaths-2021-surpass-2020-total Nov. 22, 2021 -- The number of COVID-19 deaths recorded so far in 2021 has surpassed the total for 2020, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University. Overall, more than 771,000 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the U.S. during the pandemic. About 385,000 were reported in 2020, according to CDC data, and more than 386,000 have been reported this year. The 2021 total will continue to increase in coming weeks as COVID-19 cases rise again in 30 states, according to The Hill. The national average for new daily cases has surpassed 90,000 again. So looking at this; in the middle of Jan of 2020 we started this mess but by mid Nov 2021 we had already surpassed the death rate of the previous year where a jab was not available and as a bonus most of the people that it would supposedly prevented death were jabbed by the end of March 7 months earlier….. .2020 (starting Jan 17th) = 1,103 deaths per day 2021 (only 11 months) = 1,184 deaths per day having the high risk fully vaccinated for 7 months Now as of Feb 13th we have 910k deaths, last updated on Feb 11th as it is a Friday (link will show more as it is a moving target) https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/ So, in the past 81 days we lost 139k people (Nov 22 2021- Feb 11th 2022) Past 81 days = 1,716 deaths per day with some estimate of 64% fully vaccinated This is over a 155% increase in kung flu deaths compared to when there was no jab....  This is with many people already having kung flu previous which the FDA has said provides a better immune response than the jab and now a predominate variant that has been labeled less severe even by the CDC compared to others: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, said data from Israel revealed that natural immunity appears to be 6.7x more effective than being vaccinated when it comes to fighting off COVID-19 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/omicron-variant.html Severe Illness Omicron infection generally causes less severe disease than infection with prior variants. Preliminary data suggest that Omicron may cause more mild disease So what this shows is the vaccination rate is up and the death rate is up for a kung flu variant that is less severe and more people have natural immunity that is better than the jab…now you can take all this and make excuses the jab is great but the raw data says something else. Just like the raw data in the trials showed that more died that got jabbed than the control group. This is a trend, the more jabbed the more deaths due to kung flu. If you want to get the shot that is your choice. If you don’t want to get the shot its your choice. If your going to force people to take the shot….you should get shot with something much more lethal….well maybe not more lethal but faster acting. If you are convincing people without showing ALL the data and only the 3 letter agencies / big pharma talking points to get the jab…any injuries or death is on you. |
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No shots for me yet. A family friend and I have convinced dad to not get his booster. He is 74. Shots should have only been given to elderly and those with health problems. Ivermectin,hcq and other drugs should have been given like India and others that used them. Also should have told people to get their vitamin d checked and take it. |
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I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. |
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Quoted: I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. I know math is not your strong suit so you should probably leave this to someone else.... |
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Quoted: I know math is not your strong suit so you should probably leave this to someone else.... Quoted: Quoted: I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. I know math is not your strong suit so you should probably leave this to someone else.... Go ahead and divide the number of vaccinated breakthrough cases, pre-omicrin, by the number of vaccinated people. You can do the same with deaths pre OR post omicron. The data isn't on your side. |
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Quoted: Go ahead and divide the number of vaccinated breakthrough cases, pre-omicrin, by the number of vaccinated people. You can do the same with deaths pre OR post omicron. The data isn't on your side. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. I know math is not your strong suit so you should probably leave this to someone else.... Go ahead and divide the number of vaccinated breakthrough cases, pre-omicrin, by the number of vaccinated people. You can do the same with deaths pre OR post omicron. The data isn't on your side. Isn't the vaccine supposed to prevent death.....or is it not working as advertised....come get your 5th booster..... The DEATH RATE has increased since the jabs came out at every data point, how hard is that to understand. |
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Quoted: *incoherent rambling from the poop deck of the sinking USS Safe and Effective deleted* The harmful experimental gene therapy shots have had no impact whatsoever on Kung Flu or public health. The data shows this in spades, even with Delta:  Further, two different studies have shown that there is no correlation (or negative correlation) between the percentage of people taking the shots and reductions in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. Since O-Xi-cron has come along, the shots have shown *negative* effectiveness, meaning your are *more* likely to get O-Xi-cron if you've had the poison shots than if you haven't. In short, from a public health standpoint, the harmful experimental gene therapy shots have been a complete and utter failure. |
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With all that is going on with lawsuits and the new studies showing all sorts of different negative possible effects of the jab.... I figured I would just drop this here...... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-the-ama-got-rich-powe_b_6103720 <---this article is full of stuff "How the AMA Got Rich & Powerful: "The AMA's Seal of Approval" George H. Simmons came up with the brilliant idea to transform the AMA into a big business by granting the AMA's "seal of approval" to certain drug companies that placed large and frequent ads in JAMA and its various affiliate publications. The AMA was a weak organization with little money and little respect from the general public when George H. Simmons took the reign of the AMA in 1899. The advertising revenue from its medical journal was a paltry $34,000 per year. Then, Simmons came up with the brilliant idea to transform the AMA into a big business by granting the AMA's "seal of approval" to certain drug companies that placed large and frequent ads in JAMA and its various affiliate publications. To get the AMA's "seal of approval," a drug company did not have to conduct any research nor did they even have to prove the safety or efficacy of a drug. The drug companies simply had to do two things: They had to divulge the specific constituents of their drug (no "secret" formulas were allowed...and this action was a beneficial action), however, to get the "seal of approval," drug companies had one other important requirement... They were required to advertise in every local, regional, and national AMA publication (i.e., the drug companies were forced to pay the AMA a large amount of money) There are also numerous stories about Fishbein's efforts to purchase the rights to various healing treatments, and whenever the owner refused to sell such rights, Fishbein would label the treatment as quackery (Ausubel, 2000). If the owner of the treatment or device was a doctor, this doctor would be attacked by Fishbein in his writings and placed on the AMA's quackery list Fishbein extended Simmons's idea for the AMA seal of approval to foods, and by including a significant amount of advertising from food and tobacco companies, he was able to make the AMA and himself exceedingly rich. In fact, under his reign, the tobacco companies became the largest advertiser in JAMA and in various local medical society publications[. In fact, Fishbein was instrumental in helping the tobacco companies conduct acceptable "scientific" testing to substantiate their claims. Some of the ad claims that Fishbein approved for inclusion in JAMA [b]By 1950, the AMA's advertising revenue exceeded $9 million, thanks in great part to the tobacco companies. Coincidentally, shortly after Fishbein was forced out of his position in the AMA in 1950, JAMA published research results for the first time about the harmfulness of tobacco. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- History repeats itself and you get this: https://uncanceled.news/ama-becomes-death-regime-by-plotting-to-ban-ivermectin-so-that-more-patients-die/ The reason we can safely say this is that the trade group is working overtime to restrict Americans’ access to hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and ivermectin, two safe, effective and inexpensive early treatment remedies for the Chinese Virus. Instead of recognizing that each individual has the God-given right to choose what goes into his body, the AMA is taking a position of medical fascism that does not even recognize the right of doctors to prescribe whatever medications they see fit for their patients. In 1996, ivermectin was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in humans. Today, ivermectin is off-patent and available generically for treating a variety of pathologies. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All because of this: http://www.thrivemovement.com/medical-establishment What’s wrong with the American Medical Association? The AMA is the largest association of physicians and medical students in the U.S. The AMA is a major lobbying force – The AMA spends big money on lobbying. In 2009 it was revealed that the AMA uses the same lobbyists as big pharmaceutical companies. One of the AMA’s top lobbying firms, the McManus Group, also lobbies for PhRMA, Eli Lilly & Co, Merck and Pfizer. In 2010, the AMA spent nearly $22 million to influence the passage of federal health care reform. The AMA enforces the status quo through its Journal, JAMA – JAMA is the most widely circulated medical journal in the world. It receives major funding through its advertisers, many of which are pharmaceuticals. It also has a heavy emphasis on pharmacology. The AMA suppresses alternative treatments and cures – The editor of JAMA is very influential, and has historically played a significant role in suppressing alternative health treatments. Morris Fishbein, editor of JAMA from 1924-1950, was directly engaged in suppressing Royal Rife’s cancer cure. Pharmaceutical corporations – such as Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis – and the AMA have a partnership to enforce allopathic medicine and suppress alternatives. They receive support and funding from the banking elite who are largely responsible for our current health care system and they continue to profit from it.[/b] Just for reference.... 
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Quoted: Innumeracy. First you call out 400 million doses. Then you start on about 10,000 breakthrough cases. What's 10000/400000000? Geez this is like shooting fish in a barrel Well, since a bunch of vaxtard scared idiots have had up to 4 doses each, I'm gonna call BS on your math |
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Just as a note… As of today based on the CDC data for March 15th 2022, the US is at a 1,600 deaths a day for 2022. This is with a much weaker variant and more have natural immunity than they did in 2020, that only had a 1,100 death per day average and was a lot stronger. Release the full Pfizer studies NOW. |
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Quoted: Just as a note… As of today based on the CDC data for March 15th 2022, the US is at a 1,600 deaths a day for 2022. This is with a much weaker variant and more have natural immunity that they didn’t in 2020 that only had a 1,100 death per day average and was a lot stronger. Release the full Pfizer studies NOW. Big number times small number vs small number times big number. Math isn't that hard if you try |
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Quoted: So you like an extra 500 people a day dying....strange but as noted before..... math isn't your strong suit...... Quoted: Quoted: Big number times small number vs small number times big number. Math isn't that hard if you try So you like an extra 500 people a day dying....strange but as noted before..... math isn't your strong suit...... Logic either. |
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Quoted: So you like an extra 500 people a day dying....strange but as noted before..... math isn't your strong suit...... 2020 contained peaks and valleys. The 2022 time range started as a peak and is now just coming down. Two vary different situations which should not be compared. |
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Quoted: So you like an extra 500 people a day dying....strange but as noted before..... math isn't your strong suit...... No, it would have been better if they had gotten vaccinated. We would have had less deaths, less people with cardiovascular issues, kidney damage and brain damage. I find it ironic that you're here looking at all the death and harm caused by you and your antivax fellow travelers and not feeling a sense of shame about it. |
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Quoted: I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. Natural Immunity is better. Horse Paste from tractor supply is better than your vaccine bucko. |
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Quoted: Natural Immunity is better. Horse Paste from tractor supply is better than your vaccine bucko. Quoted: Quoted: I don't see your concerns. Any objective read of the data you posted indicates that breakthrough cases were rare prior to omicron (the numbers you gave are a tiny fraction of the vaccinated) and that breakthrough cases, when they happen, such as is now common with omicron, are typically milder. You seen upset that immunity to coronavirus isn't resistant to mutation, which is the case for both vaccine and natural immunity, but that doesn't translate into any real point. Natural immunity is better, but not THAT MUCH better. It takes a few months longer to wane. That's it. And to get it you have to catch COVID and roll the dice on it being mild. Even with omicron, which definitely is milder and definitely escaped vaccine antibodies, you're better off being vaccinated and having a stronger t-cell response, than to catch it with no prior immunity. It's definitely NOT better to get natural immunity through hospitalization than to get vaccinated. Natural Immunity is better. Horse Paste from tractor supply is better than your vaccine bucko. For a person who has never had COVID it's not better. For a person who gets COVID and ends up with long term cardiovascular, brain and kidney problems it's not better. For a person who dies from COVID it's not better It is only better for those who survive COVID without suffering any of the many potential complications. |
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Quoted: Isn't the vaccine supposed to prevent death.....or is it not working as advertised....come get your 5th booster..... The DEATH RATE has increased since the jabs came out at every data point, how hard is that to understand. The Pfizer bot ignores data and the truth. What you said is irrefutable and indisputable. The truth is out there, the lying propaganda continues anyways. |
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Quoted: The Pfizer bot ignores data and the truth. What you said is irrefutable and indisputable. The truth is out there, the lying propaganda continues anyways. Hey guys it's irrefutable. Never mind that the fact cases were way up but deaths didn't trend. Cases  Deaths  You should really understand what you are looking at before you blindly believe him. |
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Quoted: Understandable........do you believe there has been misinformation spread by both sides of the argument? Either by accident or on purpose? Quoted: Quoted: No, not for not getting vaccinated. For spreading misinformation that harmed other people. Understandable........do you believe there has been misinformation spread by both sides of the argument? Either by accident or on purpose? Definitely. I have seen claims made by politicians claiming that their policies are based on science when the mainstream, peer reviewed science is saying the opposite. For example, claiming the vaccines were going to stop the spread even after omicron had come along. They did reduce the spread with Delta, but that had obviously ended by the time the mandates were being proposed. You don't need to go to YouTube to find out omicron broke through. You can find that in Nature and the NEJM. |
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Quoted: No, not for not getting vaccinated. For spreading misinformation that harmed other people. You mean like imploring people to get an experimental "vaccine" that's so "safe and effective"? Tell that to my colleague that took it.. Bad reactions within 12 hours of each (3) jabs. Got covid twice after getting jabbed, missed a reservist call-up while hospitalized, and is now getting medically discharged, and just got a pacemaker. Oh, btw, he's 26. |
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Quoted: You mean like imploring people to get an experimental "vaccine" that's so "safe and effective"? Tell that to my colleague that took it.. Bad reactions within 12 hours of each (3) jabs. Got covid twice after getting jabbed, missed a reservist call-up while hospitalized, and is now getting medically discharged, and just got a pacemaker. Oh, btw, he's 26. So he was first two shots were around May 2021. Boostered around oct/nov 2021 then caught Covid twice? Or caught Covid after May and then again after oct/nov? Getting Covid twice could easily wreck a heart. Is the pacemaker for slow heartbeat or because they think he will have a heart attack? |
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Quoted: So he was first two shots were around May 2021. Boostered around oct/nov 2021 then caught Covid twice? Or caught Covid after May and then again after oct/nov? Getting Covid twice could easily wreck a heart. Is the pacemaker for slow heartbeat or because they think he will have a heart attack? He's in Singapore. 1st shot in Jan 21, 2nd in March. Boosted first week of October. Positive for Covid 4th week of October and 2nd week of January. Cardiac issues started in October prior to dx w/ covid.. They actually picked up the covid infection when he was admitted thru the ER to the cath lab. It's actually an internal AED he got. |
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Quoted: You mean like imploring people to get an experimental "vaccine" that's so "safe and effective"? Tell that to my colleague that took it.. Bad reactions within 12 hours of each (3) jabs. Got covid twice after getting jabbed, missed a reservist call-up while hospitalized, and is now getting medically discharged, and just got a pacemaker. Oh, btw, he's 26. People have a bad reaction to COVID. I do not believe whatever happened to your reservist friend had anything to do with the vaccine. Sounds like either COVID or something else happened to him. |
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Quoted: I don’t give a rat’s ass what you “believe”. Quoted: Quoted: People have a bad reaction to COVID. I do not believe whatever happened to your reservist friend had anything to do with the vaccine. Sounds like either COVID or something else happened to him. I don’t give a rat’s ass what you “believe”. Great. So now that you see the uselessness of posting anecdotes perhaps you can instead share some objective data that supports your view. What's the all cause morality rate look like for vaccinated versus unvaccinated? Your hypothesis would predict it's lower for the unvaccinated, and if instead it's lower for the vaccinated your hypothesis will be objectively wrong. |
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I am just going to state this, the jab bots are here to get this thread nuked and start arguments. They don't like what I have pointed out so I will refuse to respond to them. Giving the OP the ability to blocking users from posting in a thread can't come soon enough....though I think it will never happen. I mean around 4+ years ago we got RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA from the MSM, how did that turn out Then we get reports of Hunters laptop and most of the MSM said it was disinformation and nuked peoples accounts....can they now sue because it was true. If you think this kung flu shit on the news is reliable or anything coming out of our Gov, you might want to rethink that. It is interesting that the CDC recently changed their website. You before could click on a year and look to see the deaths for that year. Now that feature is gone or I haven't found it. They made the website look all "up to date" with charts and graphs but then removed data to track what is really going on. I had the numbers on hand from the previous 2 years so could calculated the deaths so far this year. Looks like I will have to remind myself to save a screen shot Jan 1st 2023 (or sometime that week as the data trails the real numbers for a few days due to reporting). Most of the propaganda the bots use is paid for by the AMA, which in I have shown they are the scum of the earth and can't be trusted to say anything truthful unless they get lucky and the "follow the money" statement and the truth actually line up (or there is no momentary value in reporting something else). |
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Quoted: @SciFiNut be polite or step away for a bit. Quoted: Quoted: I don’t give a rat’s ass what you “believe”. @SciFiNut be polite or step away for a bit. @medicmandan I haven't been posting much lately because not much has really happened but Pfizer drops and a group of medical professionals will be much more likely to find something than I will. I will just need to verify what they find for myself. Only time will tell the how good or bad all this happens to be. SciFiNut only expressed his opinion, didn't say go fuck yourself with a rusty cactus or go kill yourself like vax shill said in one thread. I saw shit 87 million times worse than this done by the Pfizer shills especially SoKarul of trying to bait people into a pissing match totally off topic. I never saw him get a warning. I even reported shit but nothing happened. A this point I don't think that feature works. I do not want my thread nuked, I have asked people to stay out but they come back and say shit just to piss people off which in turn starts a shit show and then bye bye thread. What does it take as the OP of a thread to keep people out if they keep trolling? I don't mind a debate but blaming the unvaxxed for all this is retarded and starts an argument. I mean they didn't even report kung flu in the vaccinated for a few months in the hospitals, the data we have is fucked. From Goatboy: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/ARFCOM-Upcoming-Changes-and-Expectations-Updated-12-1-21/5-2504826/ 1) Site Updates and Tools. (User + Mod powers) We are toying with the ability for authors to have more control with their threads, including the ability to lock their own posts and kick people from them. (If abused, some of these options will go away.) We are also looking to improve the mod tools to make it easier for them to moderate and avoid locking threads. |
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Quoted: I am just going to state this, the jab bots are here to get this thread nuked and start arguments. They don't like what I have pointed out so I will refuse to respond to them. Giving the OP the ability to blocking users from posting in a thread can't come soon enough....though I think it will never happen. I mean around 4+ years ago we got RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA from the MSM, how did that turn out Then we get reports of Hunters laptop and most of the MSM said it was disinformation and nuked peoples accounts....can they now sue because it was true. If you think this kung flu shit on the news is reliable or anything coming out of our Gov, you might want to rethink that. It is interesting that the CDC recently changed their website. You before could click on a year and look to see the deaths for that year. Now that feature is gone or I haven't found it. They made the website look all "up to date" with charts and graphs but then removed data to track what is really going on. I had the numbers on hand from the previous 2 years so could calculated the deaths so far this year. Looks like I will have to remind myself to save a screen shot Jan 1st 2023 (or sometime that week as the data trails the real numbers for a few days due to reporting). Most of the propaganda the bots use is paid for by the AMA, which in I have shown they are the scum of the earth and can't be trusted to say anything truthful unless they get lucky and the "follow the money" statement and the truth actually line up (or there is no momentary value in reporting something else). Where is your buddy Donkey? Last posted feb 24th. You know what else happened on feb 24th? Russia invaded Ukraine. I bet donkey was reassigned to war propaganda. But no, we are the paid shills. 
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