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Posted: 7/1/2025 4:27:49 PM EDT
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Leaning towards Garmin pilot because NRST and EMER mode are so quick and usable in flight. Also got a great deal on a pre-owned GDL-50. Curious what everyone else is using. |
"According to Argonne National Laboratory, it takes 100 pounds of battery in an EV to go a distance achieved by only one pound of gasoline in an ICE vehicle"
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As one of the rather small community of GP/Android users (more on that below), the reality is as follows: - If you are not living with a Garmin cockpit environment, or at least not a fairly up to date one, Foreflight is generally considered the best solution. GP does certain things better, but Foreflight does more things better. - If you are in a strong Garmin cockpit environment, GP integrates more tightly with Garmin, can be used to do all your panel database updates, and the user interface of GP is intentionally very similar to the user interface of the GTN navigators. - GP on an iPad is much more feature rich and stable than GP on an Android. Although they look the same, they are essentially two different app's. - The lower-cost/free competitors on Android, like Avare and iFly, suck compared to Garmin, IMHO anyway. As a VFR-only guy, and someone who does not care for the mandates and limitations of the Apple ecosystem, I'm happy with GP on Android. It acts a bit wonky at times, but I've learned to manage those issues. What really makes Android GP shine for me was switching to a folding phone (OnePlus Open, but the Samsung and Pixel folders are just as good). All of the Android folders are ripping fast, insanely bright (over 2000 nits--no problem in direct sunlight), high resolution, very heat tolerant, and the perfect size for the cockpit. And, the folding phones become a single source of audio for calls, music, and Bitching Betty, which is a lot easier to manage than trying to pair with multiple Bluetooth devices. Meanwhile, iPads are legendary for being hard to see in direct sunlight, and for overheating in the cockpit. If you go the iOS route, make sure to buy one of the iPad mounts that includes cooling fans. You also need an iPad that has cellular capability, as only those models come with an internal GPS receiver. What's your situation? VFR/IFR? What aircraft? What sort of avionics? eta: Foreflight will pair with any Garmin data link, including the GDL 50. The reverse is not true, GP will only pair with Garmin stuff, although the iOS version of GP now also supports the Sentry. |
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| I pony up for Foreflight Military Flight Bag that I run on my cellular iPad mini 6 because, teaching at Rucker, I use it, literally, every workday and it makes my life way easier. I back it up with paper terminal charts in my cockpit because the iPad does let me down sometimes. |
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Originally Posted By Bob58: I pony up for Foreflight Military Flight Bag that I run on my cellular iPad mini 6 because, teaching at Rucker, I use it, literally, every workday and it makes my life way easier. I back it up with paper terminal charts in my cockpit because the iPad does let me down sometimes. Wave as you fly over !!! |
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Originally Posted By aa777888-2: What does Jepp FD Pro cost? They seem to jealously guard that number or my Google-fu is weak. ETA: it would seem you can only get it if you are flying Part 121 op's? Yep, does not seem to be available for individual purchase. |
"According to Argonne National Laboratory, it takes 100 pounds of battery in an EV to go a distance achieved by only one pound of gasoline in an ICE vehicle"
| Foreflight since its what the company provides for us, but its a very good app. We also use all jepps with it, so we don't need a separate Jepp app. It's great for FBO info and planning as well. We also use APG Genesis for our w&b, not the most intuitive u/i but is a great resource to have. |
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Like all the airline guys, I use Jepp FD Pro on an iPad for work. For all my warbird flying I have ForeFlight on an iPad Mini 6. From a couple years ago, here's my work-issued full side iPad with FF over on the left console in the Superfortress. Attached File |
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I have a Garmin cockpit and tried to do the Garmin Pilot on an android tablet.....kept running into issues, and couldnt figure out how to do stuff other guys could do on an iPad. After a lot of emails back and forth with Garmin, finally found out that the android app was far behind the iOS--lots of stuff missing. I broke down and bought an iPad mini 5G, but run foreflight after trying both for a while. Granted, this was three years ago, so maybe it's up to the same level. I'm really impressed with all of Garmins other products, so really wanted this to work. I had one of the first handheld GPSs they ever made back in the mid 90s, and was one of the first pros that got the new mk2 and mk3 dive computers with the air integration.....love their stuff. |
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Originally Posted By simpletoms: Foreflight for personal use and .mil. We don’t use near the functionality on the mil side, primarily due to lack of management of the devices and tail numbers… https://i.imgur.com/3V7bCXp.jpeg That photo really shows the advantage of the iFly tablets over an iPad. There is no glare or reflection like that, even in direct sunlight. |
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Originally Posted By ske714: That photo really shows the advantage of the iFly tablets over an iPad. There is no glare or reflection like that, even in direct sunlight. Yeah my Android 8" hasn't that level of glare. It also doesn't overheat. Without thinking I left it under the windscreen on the top of the dash today while doing my preflight in one of the school's PA-28s, in the July Texas heat. When I finally grabbed it to do my engine start checklist, it was too hot to hold, but the screen was still active. It really can take some heat. |
"According to Argonne National Laboratory, it takes 100 pounds of battery in an EV to go a distance achieved by only one pound of gasoline in an ICE vehicle"
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Garmin puts out a free EFB called Fltplan. https://ww8.fltplan.com/ It has everything I need for VFR. Works with both android and apple so I have it on both me phone and notepad. If I were to start flying IFR again I would probably go with Foreflight. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Garmin puts out a free EFB called Fltplan. https://ww8.fltplan.com/ It has everything I need for VFR. Works with both android and apple so I have it on both me phone and notepad. If I were to start flying IFR again I would probably go with Foreflight. I use FltPlan Go and Avare for VFR flying. I don't fly IFR anymore. |
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Originally Posted By Mach: Yep and never had my ipad ( or before that a Microsoft Surface 3 ) over heat. Real story, had an army ipad when the army was considering buying them even though I've always been a paper guy. Was relatively useless unless IFR or cross-country. One day I'm flying alone from the east coast to the west coast and it's the first trip I didn't bring paper pubs with me. Solid overcast below, get a descent down through the clouds, and the ipad gets the "your ipad is overheated. please allow it to cool down before attempting to turn it on." because I had it sitting on top of the glareshield wedged next to the hud and the sun was on it. I turned the heat off and laid it upside down behind the throttle so it was out of the sun and it came back on in a couple minutes, just before I got into the clouds. That was the first and last time I didn't bring at least a couple paper approach plates with me. |
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Originally Posted By Morgan321: Real story, had an army ipad when the army was considering buying them even though I've always been a paper guy. Was relatively useless unless IFR or cross-country. One day I'm flying alone from the east coast to the west coast and it's the first trip I didn't bring paper pubs with me. Solid overcast below, get a descent down through the clouds, and the ipad gets the "your ipad is overheated. please allow it to cool down before attempting to turn it on." because I had it sitting on top of the glareshield wedged next to the hud and the sun was on it. I turned the heat off and laid it upside down behind the throttle so it was out of the sun and it came back on in a couple minutes, just before I got into the clouds. That was the first and last time I didn't bring at least a couple paper approach plates with me. Originally Posted By Morgan321: Originally Posted By Mach: Yep and never had my ipad ( or before that a Microsoft Surface 3 ) over heat. Real story, had an army ipad when the army was considering buying them even though I've always been a paper guy. Was relatively useless unless IFR or cross-country. One day I'm flying alone from the east coast to the west coast and it's the first trip I didn't bring paper pubs with me. Solid overcast below, get a descent down through the clouds, and the ipad gets the "your ipad is overheated. please allow it to cool down before attempting to turn it on." because I had it sitting on top of the glareshield wedged next to the hud and the sun was on it. I turned the heat off and laid it upside down behind the throttle so it was out of the sun and it came back on in a couple minutes, just before I got into the clouds. That was the first and last time I didn't bring at least a couple paper approach plates with me. I like having the software on my phone, too. |
9 lives - 9 pellets... Coincidence?