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As opposed to today? Like now Asians are pretty accepted into the fabric of American society like other ethnic groups, but before the Asian community was frowned upon ie why Chinatowns exist, and interment camps were a thing for Japanese Americans who were here on American soil for 50-100 years before they were even born. I ask as one, Jw |
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Originally Posted By HocusFocus: As opposed to today? Like now Asians are pretty accepted into the fabric of American society like other ethnic groups, but before the Asian community was frowned upon ie why Chinatowns exist, and interment camps were a thing for Japanese Americans who were here on American soil for 50-100 years before they were even born. I ask as one, Jw While there was certainly racism against asians... Asians themselves are a very insular people / culture(s) that is itself very racist against outsiders. Their words for westerners is hardly kind. Japanese.. Chinese.. others... tended to want to continue to live without melting into american society.. kept apart. That did not help with the racism. Every group that immigrated here but tried to stay separate faced similar treatment. Italians.. Irish.. Germans... you name it. |
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The Asian population now is 7%-ish of the US population, and 20% of the Asian category is Indian. Back then it was well under 4%. From my recollection(born 60s), the Asian population was extremely concentrated in very few locations, so any impression that most people had was through TV and...Martial Arts movies. Growing up in the Southeast, I didn't meet an Asian until I joined the Army(a Filipino and a Vietnamese) and they were simply Green from the beginning. The fucking Vietnamese was in the Mortar squad, and watching his tiny ass hump the baseplate over hill and dale was a "shut the fuck up about your rucksack" sight. So there was a stereotype, but not a negative one. In the US, the only groups that have consistently gotten mainstream attention are blacks and Jews. Since there are more left-handed red heads in the population than Jews, that is also a function of Media. When we went to Korea, I was surprised and disgusted at how viciously racist the black guys were towards Koreans. It was like they became unhinged. They acted like every Jim Crow racist redneck you've ever seen on TV and never seen in real life. |
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I came to northern VA in '78 as a kid. NoVa was full of immigrants from s.e. Asia. Our first house was in a majority white neighborhood on a mostly Asian street. Laotians, South Koreans, Filipinos, Chinese, etc. Everyone of every race made jokes, but I don't think Asians were frowned upon, except by some of our suburban rednecks (who were also my friends). |
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77: I came to northern VA in '78 as a kid. NoVa was full of immigrants from s.e. Asia. Our first house was in a majority white neighborhood on a mostly Asian street. Laotians, South Koreans, Filipinos, Chinese, etc. Everyone of every race made jokes, but I don't think Asians were frowned upon, with the exception of some of our suburban rednecks (who were also my friends). Yep!! My cuz is from Shenzhen, China/Hong Kong originally and she goes to college at UVA. She said Charlottesville is a cool town; is it? I wish I coulda gone to her graduation but alas I live in Cali and don’t make a lot currently :/… I heard Fairfax County has a lot of Asians and there’s that one high school that’s like made up 60-70pc of Asians which is oriented in science and tech. Big Korean and Chinese population and hella ambitious Asians and some of them still like to party. |
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Originally Posted By HocusFocus: Yep!! My cuz is from Shenzhen, China/Hong Kong originally and she goes to college at UVA. She said Charlottesville is a cool town; is it? I wish I coulda gone to her graduation but alas I live in Cali and don’t make a lot currently :/… I heard Fairfax County has a lot of Asians and there’s that one high school that’s like made up 60-70pc of Asians which is oriented in science and tech. Big Korean and Chinese population and hella ambitious Asians and some of them still like to party. Thomas Jefferson H.S. ... I lost a lot of mostly S. Korean friends to TJ, that went on to do great things. Ffx Co.'s DEI push ruined TJ, despite the propaganda you'll hear. Asians were disproportionately screwed by Ffx DEI. |
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| I accepted Amiee Karbowski's fine young asian ass back in the 7th and 8th grade. Her and her older sister we bring backs. They were born in the Korea and was adopted by our small town dentist and wife. She was gorgeous as a young lady. Saw her again after highschool and.....she did not wait until old age to turn into the little old asian lady we've seen meme's of. |
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Originally Posted By HocusFocus: Yeah but honestly Asians are integrated a lot better now. Some asian immigrants are basically white adjacent now, as silly as that term sounds, but some are basically soccer mom Asian types now in US suburbia with names like Hunter and Gunnar and all that… I agree with this statement because I think Asians realized that dems were grouping them as a minority alongside afro americans and they were aw hell no.... and they do represent the antithesis of the American black stereotype.... education, self reliance, family, work ethic as opposed to criminality, uneducated, violent, broken families, welfare... |
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There was a Japanese kid in our grade school class. He was pretty cool but definitely on the geeky side. I was into sports but he kind of sucked at games, although he tried hard. I always wonder what happen to him. He probably became an engineer, designed something cool, and is a millionaire. |
| I grew up in Fayettenam close to Bragg next to a Korean family and they welcomed us when we moved in. I was at their house a lot. I was in school with their kids and we played together. Older brother was in high-school and I was in 6th grade. He had a great stereo and we listened to great music. I remember the first time I heard Black Sabbath and was so different than music on the radio at the time which was great. I had a huge crush on a Philippine girl in my class. Vietnam War had ended lots of Veterans on my street and neighborhood. Everyone got along great when I was growing up there. |
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Back in 1999 I met a Chinese guy through work. He, his mother and his sister had swam across Honk Kong harbor to freedom several years before and wound up in the Las Angeles area. He spoke not a word of English but starter learning it from his new best friend he met because he wanted to play baseball. He showed up at the ball fields each day until this kid came over and through gestures he got to borrow a glove and play. Afterwards the kid dragged him home for some snacks. He fully integrated married a Caucasian woman and had kids with her. Also became an American citizen as early as it was allowed. He told us his sister wanted to remain in the Chinese culture and would only marry a Chinese man. He told her that he came here to be an American not Chinese. He had had enough of that. If she did not want to become and American the best thing for her was to go back to China. |
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Not that I remember. Overall people got along reasonably well. This mass racial hatred is fairly new. Someone figured out they could get votes/money by stirring up anger and it became the in thing to do. |
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Originally Posted By Vikingsouthpaw: Asians are not a homogenous group. I remember friction between Whites and Vietnamese immigrants in the mid 70's, In Louisiana fishing areas. Was going to say the same, lot of friction with the shrimpers and Vietnamese in Louisiana and Texas in the 70s. I lived in LA at the time and they had an entire subidvision to themselves. It had flooded due constrution of I-12 making it a dam and nobody wanted to chance it. They did, and yes it flooded several times until they finally fixed it. |
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OP, in small town Deep South in the 1970's, our starting HS QB was half Korean. His younger sister became the head cheerleader a few years later. In the small town Deep South, as the great philosopher Miranda Lambert told us in "Famous in a Small Town", cheering for or playing for the HS football team is as good as being a world famous musician. One of my closest friends was a half-Japanese guy whose ironic nickname was "Chicano" - he did look a little Hispanic. I do not recall him ever mentioning racism issues in wrestling against teams from other schools. Yeah, there was some racism, people are not perfect. But on Friday nights school colors mattered more than skin color, and people just generally found a way to get along otherwise. Year later in grad school in a "more liberal" environment, I would encounter more racism from Asians directed toward non-Asians than I ever did the reverse. Having said that, most of those Asians were not US citizens. |
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Growing up in California in that time, I want to say no. But you'd really have to get the perception of an Asian-American person who grew up there during the same time for their opinion. There were of course the childhood playground hurtful insult "jokes" along the lines of "Me put pee pee in your coke" punchlines and the fact that even today Asians in the US might be approached by other Americans presuming that they aren't fluent in English, never mind that particular Asian person may have great grandparents (or even further back) who were born in the USA and were here a generation or two before a lot of ethnically white Americans' ancestors arrived from the British Isles and Europe. Even back in the 1970s it wasn't at all uncommon to, for instance, have an Asian-American orthodontist or pediatrician named Alex Chan with a medical degree from UC Davis, or whatever. Western US "Chinatowns" dot the landscape in every state there was railroad and mining work from the West Coast to St. Louis, after all. And when I was a kid in California I'd skip over every other citrus producer's navel oranges until I found ones that came from Japanese-American orchard varietals from NorCal and Fresno like Owari and Satsuma. IYKYK, on that. Those all go back to the late 1800s. Asian-Americans have been Americans for a pretty long damn time even though there were anti-Asian ordinances and laws designed to keep them out or deny citizenship to them even up to the 1920s. All despite they may have lived here since before the US Civil War. Absurd and racist. During the 1970s the first SouthEast Asian "Boat People" (Vietnamese, Laotian, etc) arrived as refugees in the USA and their stories are horrific. Their presence was mixed with sorrow for their plight and embarrassment over the outcome of the Vietnam conflict. But today they're integrated and common all over the US. |