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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Do not comply, with any of it. Become ungovernable. It is your duty, and your God-given right. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394844/D9F428B4-5CC5-4EEB-A5C3-DDF53DE20C64_jpeg-1189615.JPG That's a given. But if we do not stand together, we will surely hang separately. |
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Originally Posted By dbrowne1: If you get on “their” radar, individually, lots of things can happen. Originally Posted By dbrowne1: Originally Posted By JoelK: Thanks for your insight and information. I guess I just distrust the government to the degree that I expect them to do whatever it takes, and expend whatever resources needed, to enforce things if it becomes a priority. This comes from paying attention to events like the Beltway snipers, January 6th, and even a Maryland prosecutor going after a family member in a child custody/BS domestic violence case where they threatened me, out of their state, while looking for my family member's guns. If you get on “their” radar, individually, lots of things can happen. Posted in this thread? Posted in the Jan20 threads? You're on their radar. Abi is deep state, I'll bet money she can get Jones all the info he wants, no warrant or paperwork needed. And you're a browser javascript injection away from possessing child porn, so nobody will stand up for you. Easy-peasy. |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Posted in this thread? Posted in the Jan20 threads? You're on their radar. Abi is deep state, I'll bet money she can get Jones all the info he wants, no warrant or paperwork needed. And you're a browser javascript injection away from possessing child porn, so nobody will stand up for you. Easy-peasy. 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ 
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Posted in this thread? Posted in the Jan20 threads? You're on their radar. Abi is deep state, I'll bet money she can get Jones all the info he wants, no warrant or paperwork needed. And you're a browser javascript injection away from possessing child porn, so nobody will stand up for you. Easy-peasy. 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ I’m positive most of us from last time are on lists. I imagine it’s been a very boring ass job watching people like me go to work and return home every damn day for the last five years.  (They’re probably nodding their heads in agreement reading this) |
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: Executive Director Angela Ferrell-Zabala with Moms Demand Action says there are solutions that don’t impede on Virginians' Second Amendment rights to own firearms. “We have many gun owners and folk apart from our advocacy that know what it means to be a responsible gun owner. We want to make sure that if you are a gun owner, you are a responsible gun owner,” Ferrell-Zabala said. *************** I needed some hip waders after reading those claims. The reality is that they want to completely take away Virginians 2A rights. They want to BAN entire classes of guns, such as ALL semi-auto rifles, ban mags, ban open carry, ban concealed carry and think that the second amendment means you can have British style gun laws. They openly want to ban ALL AR's and even did a press release about it: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/the-ar-15-is-the-weapon-of-choice-for-mass-shooters-its-time-to-reinstate-the-bipartisan-congressional-assault-weapons-ban/ Openly want to ban all regular capacity magazines: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/new-jersey-chapter-of-moms-demand-action-everytown-law-join-ag-platkin-in-urging-third-circuit-court-of-appeals-to-uphold-states-life-saving-assault-weapons-and-high-capacity-magazine-ban/ Backed the California ban on Glocks: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/california-legislature-passes-ab-1127-everytown-moms-demand-action-and-students-demand-action-urge-governor-gavin-newsom-to-sign-first-in-the-nation-bill-taking-on-diy-machine-guns/ Want to ban open carry: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/what-you-need-to-know-about-florida-attorney-general-uthmeiers-failure-to-uphold-the-states-lifesaving-open-carry-ban/ Against constitutional carry: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/politics-over-public-safety-republican-state-lawmakers-vote-to-override-veto-of-permitless-carry-in-the-senate/ Pressuring businesses to ban carrying guns in their stores: https://momsdemandaction.org/press/moms-demand-action-launches-campaign-pressuring-staples-ban-guns-stores/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26697/Screenshot_2025-11-07_171100_jpg-3655049.JPG "BUT TRUMP!!" It's gonna be fun watching them eat their own behinds when the democrats do it to all. Not even in office yet in Va and "they're coming right at us" |
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Originally Posted By Honda750: "BUT TRUMP!!" It's gonna be fun watching them eat their own behinds when the democrats do it to all. Not even in office yet in Va and "they're coming right at us" Your point? |
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Originally Posted By cone256: Well I guess they have a choice to make. Taking guns or going home safely each night. You can and would be jailed for that exact statement, in this exact forum. Doesn't mean you shouldn't say it, or that it would be right, just pointing out the reality we live in. I think I have a sig line related to this. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: When j6 happened I was pretty shocked how fast Facebook locked the accounts of the leaders of Culpeper county 2A. Just that fast communication among the organization just stopped. We were able to call each other on the phone but it is incredibly cumbersome and slow. Lots of people were not able to talk to other people at all because it's not like the entire organization had give out everybody's phone numbers. That was a private company who just felt like it was the right thing for them to do to shut us down. It had nothing to do with the govt. About 10 days later the accounts were opened again like nothing ever happened. If you don't have off-line comms, you don't have comms. Phone, mail address, even ham radio. Secure internet comms are also needed, but can't be the only avenue. |
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Let’s let the unsaid remain unsaid on an open forum. Networking with like-minded is key. Strength in numbers. The machine will grind to a halt if there is organized resistance. Use Signal (or secure off-line method) for comms, but don’t add non-vetted individuals (duh). Never comply. |
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Originally Posted By DownToBrassTacks: We don't live in a democracy, we live in a constitutional republic. Huge difference. Originally Posted By DownToBrassTacks: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: If you postulate that democracy is invalid, you have to present something to replace it, and sell that as an advantage. We don't live in a democracy, we live in a constitutional republic. Huge difference. Do we? In culture and politics, we've pushed toward more democracy for about a century. The Democratic party has made 'DEMOCRACY' a huge priority for quite a long time. With their agitators in education & news media, this has become the normalized message for the general population. Asking the general public to understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy wouldn't go far. Most people don't give any thought to the tremendous drawbacks to a democracy. As applied in the current situation, the 'majority rules' concept says that the Democratic government gets to do what they want. Republicans and conservatives do a very bad job of pushing back and explaining that democracy is a poor model that is unjust and unfree. Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner is what democracy looks like. Zimbabwe is what democracy looks like. And Russia, Venezuala, Cuba. The 'democracy' narrative is where we are, and advocating a limited constitutional government is actually a radical, countercultural thing. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: If you don't have off-line comms, you don't have comms. Phone, mail address, even ham radio. Secure internet comms are also needed, but can't be the only avenue. Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By stone-age: When j6 happened I was pretty shocked how fast Facebook locked the accounts of the leaders of Culpeper county 2A. Just that fast communication among the organization just stopped. We were able to call each other on the phone but it is incredibly cumbersome and slow. Lots of people were not able to talk to other people at all because it's not like the entire organization had give out everybody's phone numbers. That was a private company who just felt like it was the right thing for them to do to shut us down. It had nothing to do with the govt. About 10 days later the accounts were opened again like nothing ever happened. If you don't have off-line comms, you don't have comms. Phone, mail address, even ham radio. Secure internet comms are also needed, but can't be the only avenue. As was mentioned earlier, we’ve learned a few things last time around. Some things don’t need to be discussed openly or to some extent mentioned at this point. Right now, it’s just time to focus on the Sons of Virginia to come home. There’s work to do. |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Do you think Jones cares? If you bought something at a VA gun store or dealer, you're on the list. Full stop. If you only bought privately, the people you bought from are on the list, and to save themselves from the wrath of mere criminal charges they'll rat you out. Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: The coming Californication of VA Abigail Spanberger’s First 100 Days: What Virginians Can Expect From Their Next Governor https://washingtonian.com/2025/11/19/spanberger-first-100-days-virginia-democrats-agenda/ VA Senate Majority Leader Surovell: Surovell says Democrats want to pursue measures including a ban on AR-15-style rifles and stronger safe-storage rules. No bills are filed yet, but that doesn’t mean they are off the table. It is as clear as day. Buy/sell what you want NOW. They WILL push it through. They are irate because of MAGA, and they will throw their fit in VA. And when you got yours, they'll repeal the grandfather clause. Surrender them for $300 ea or get a felony, which surrenders them for $0. Oh, and while the FBI may not keep 4473 records, the VSP absolutely keeps records of transactions, so Jones can send the VSP to come shoot your kids and dogs. At this moment there is no Universal Background Check in Va, as I understand it. So everything now goes back to zero. Anything people purchased prior to this, was maybe sold in a private sale today or tomorrow. If I've got this wrong please say so. Do you think Jones cares? If you bought something at a VA gun store or dealer, you're on the list. Full stop. If you only bought privately, the people you bought from are on the list, and to save themselves from the wrath of mere criminal charges they'll rat you out. When we didn't before have UBCs I definitely did buy and sell stuff with no names or paper trails. It was extremely common for people on both sides of the sale to ask to see a handgun permit to verify everybody was not a criminal then just exchange the gun for the money. It was common on VAguntrader for people to say something like "no good guy papers, no sale". |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Posted in this thread? Posted in the Jan20 threads? You're on their radar. Abi is deep state, I'll bet money she can get Jones all the info he wants, no warrant or paperwork needed. And you're a browser javascript injection away from possessing child porn, so nobody will stand up for you. Easy-peasy. 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ Hey. @VA_Fusion_Center. And also Bruce.. or Stevie,or whatever other faggot is my caseworker:  |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Posted in this thread? Posted in the Jan20 threads? You're on their radar. Abi is deep state, I'll bet money she can get Jones all the info he wants, no warrant or paperwork needed. And you're a browser javascript injection away from possessing child porn, so nobody will stand up for you. Easy-peasy. 100% that state and/or fed alphabet bois watching this thread. Say hello to the VA Fusion Center https://fusion.vsp.virginia.gov/ They have already determined I am a domestic terrorist because I cling to my guns and my religion, am a combat arms vet, and believe in the Constitution. Fuck ‘em |
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns: Its really not. Most of whatever gets passed will be ignored. Again, I post this map. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/524356/1000003134-3655393.jpg Lots of people in upstate NY said the same thing when they'd post the map showing NY counties whose Sheriffs said they wouldn't enforce the SAFE Act. Guess what their Sheriffs were doing a year later, charging people under the SAFE Act. @Aimless |
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Originally Posted By Mercworx: Because they weren’t doing stuff like this before??????  I think what he's trying to get at is Trump has moved the timetable up. Before Trump; all of this would have taken maybe 10-15 more years. After Trump? The schedule got moved up to within the next few years. They're mad and they want to take it out on Trump & his supporters. Trump is going after one of their largest and most reliable voting constituencies -- illegal aliens or their offspring that they harvest for votes and money. So of course they're going to go after what they perceive as the GOP's largest & most reliable constituencies -- gun owners. Pepper your angus. |
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Originally Posted By LexConcord: Hey. @VA_Fusion_Center. And also Bruce.. or Stevie,or whatever other faggot is my caseworker: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/503720/IMG_4002-3663017.jpg LOL. |
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The first (of likely many) bills are dropping. SB 27 Bypass the PLCAA and make it legal for individuals to sue gun manufacturers for the actions of third party https://legiscan.com/VA/bill/SB27/2026 SB 38 Raises age limit from 18 to 21 for transfer from prohibited person to non-prohibited person. Provides that a person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm because the person is subject to a protective order or has been convicted of an assault and battery of a family or household member may transfer a firearm owned by the prohibited person to any person who is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing such firearm, provided that the person who is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing such firearm is 21 years of age or older and does not reside with the person who is subject to the protective order. https://legiscan.com/VA/bill/SB38/2026 |
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Originally Posted By Southernman077: One side can get away with that. The other, not so much. Originally Posted By Southernman077: Originally Posted By thesquidliest: How long before both sides start saying "yeah, fuck you, not obeying your laws" whenever the opposing party wins? One side can get away with that. The other, not so much. Why does one side feel obligated to coddle a bunch of cucks harpies and thugs? While receiving nothing in return. |
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Originally Posted By winxlite: Why does one side feel obligated to coddle a bunch of cucks harpies and thugs? While receiving nothing in return. Originally Posted By winxlite: Originally Posted By Southernman077: Originally Posted By thesquidliest: How long before both sides start saying "yeah, fuck you, not obeying your laws" whenever the opposing party wins? One side can get away with that. The other, not so much. Why does one side feel obligated to coddle a bunch of cucks harpies and thugs? While receiving nothing in return. |
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You really can’t hate politicians enough. Given that the 2A is a right acknowledged by the US and Virginia Constitutions…it shouldn’t even matter to gun owners what brand of dickhead is in office. If they had any integrity they wouldn’t attack it and would focus their energy on more pressing matters. Yet here we are. This situation is quite frustrating. Fuck NOVA. |
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Been watching this thread and reading the wind. My advice,for those that would take it. VA dems are wasting no time. Neither should you. Now is the time to prepare,and we are blessed to have it. While the guy level response is to buy cases of Pmags and every cool gun you may ever want, I suggest a different course. Have armor,night vision,comms. Have food and cash reserves for when your accounts are frozen. If you don't have these,sell a cool toy to get them. Have a bolt hole,have multiple bolt holes. Get your fat ass in the best shape possible, train with your equipment instead of taking cool pictures with it. Network with old and trusted friends, accept no new ones with great ideas. I agree things are coming. I wholeheartedly agree that VA is not like other States,and Appalachian people are not going to go quietly. There is no need to bluster and discuss it online. The government WILL freeze your bank account and cell phones. They will release stories to the local media making you seem dangerous and crazy. The local media will happily run the story without fact checking. They will execute warrants to seize your means of resistance and terrorize your family. If they are allowed to get you into custody they will make damn sure you are denied reasonable bail and held in the worst place they can find for you to rot. You will be given a show trial in a hostile jurisdiction and a crazy sentence. DO NOT go into custody. I never will again. I've said this before on this very site,and I've had it used at a trial against me. If you dip your toe into the Rubicon,cross it hard and fast. Play for all the marbles. Your enemies will not act in half measures against you. I promise. I can tell no man what course of action is right for him. Each must decide based on his circumstances. I don't believe we are yet at our Lexington and Concord. But we are past our Boston massacre and Tea party. Lobby day and J6 were those for our generation. Interesting times are ahead. Sic Semper Tyrannis |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Do we? In culture and politics, we've pushed toward more democracy for about a century. The Democratic party has made 'DEMOCRACY' a huge priority for quite a long time. With their agitators in education & news media, this has become the normalized message for the general population. Asking the general public to understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy wouldn't go far. Most people don't give any thought to the tremendous drawbacks to a democracy. As applied in the current situation, the 'majority rules' concept says that the Democratic government gets to do what they want. Republicans and conservatives do a very bad job of pushing back and explaining that democracy is a poor model that is unjust and unfree. Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner is what democracy looks like. Zimbabwe is what democracy looks like. And Russia, Venezuala, Cuba. The 'democracy' narrative is where we are, and advocating a limited constitutional government is actually a radical, countercultural thing. Republicans and Conservatives are losers that will be the next Confederates to delete from history as if they never existed by a new people that will only ever know what they were taught in Democrat run schools. |
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Originally Posted By trobertson5-0: Been watching this thread and reading the wind. My advice,for those that would take it. VA dems are wasting no time. Neither should you. Now is the time to prepare,and we are blessed to have it. While the guy level response is to buy cases of Pmags and every cool gun you may ever want, I suggest a different course. Have armor,night vision,comms. Have food and cash reserves for when your accounts are frozen. If you don't have these,sell a cool toy to get them. Have a bolt hole,have multiple bolt holes. Get your fat ass in the best shape possible, train with your equipment instead of taking cool pictures with it. Network with old and trusted friends, accept no new ones with great ideas. I agree things are coming. I wholeheartedly agree that VA is not like other States,and Appalachian people are not going to go quietly. There is no need to bluster and discuss it online. The government WILL freeze your bank account and cell phones. They will release stories to the local media making you seem dangerous and crazy. The local media will happily run the story without fact checking. They will execute warrants to seize your means of resistance and terrorize your family. If they are allowed to get you into custody they will make damn sure you are denied reasonable bail and held in the worst place they can find for you to rot. You will be given a show trial in a hostile jurisdiction and a crazy sentence. DO NOT go into custody. I never will again. I've said this before on this very site,and I've had it used at a trial against me. If you dip your toe into the Rubicon,cross it hard and fast. Play for all the marbles. Your enemies will not act in half measures against you. I promise. I can tell no man what course of action is right for him. Each must decide based on his circumstances. I don't believe we are yet at our Lexington and Concord. But we are past our Boston massacre and Tea party. Lobby day and J6 were those for our generation. Interesting times are ahead. Sic Semper Tyrannis That's a very good post. Every paragraph merits serious thought. |
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Originally Posted By trobertson5-0: Been watching this thread and reading the wind. My advice,for those that would take it. VA dems are wasting no time. Neither should you. Now is the time to prepare,and we are blessed to have it. While the guy level response is to buy cases of Pmags and every cool gun you may ever want, I suggest a different course. Have armor,night vision,comms. Have food and cash reserves for when your accounts are frozen. If you don't have these,sell a cool toy to get them. Have a bolt hole,have multiple bolt holes. Get your fat ass in the best shape possible, train with your equipment instead of taking cool pictures with it. Network with old and trusted friends, accept no new ones with great ideas. I agree things are coming. I wholeheartedly agree that VA is not like other States,and Appalachian people are not going to go quietly. There is no need to bluster and discuss it online. The government WILL freeze your bank account and cell phones. They will release stories to the local media making you seem dangerous and crazy. The local media will happily run the story without fact checking. They will execute warrants to seize your means of resistance and terrorize your family. If they are allowed to get you into custody they will make damn sure you are denied reasonable bail and held in the worst place they can find for you to rot. You will be given a show trial in a hostile jurisdiction and a crazy sentence. DO NOT go into custody. I never will again. I've said this before on this very site,and I've had it used at a trial against me. If you dip your toe into the Rubicon,cross it hard and fast. Play for all the marbles. Your enemies will not act in half measures against you. I promise. I can tell no man what course of action is right for him. Each must decide based on his circumstances. I don't believe we are yet at our Lexington and Concord. But we are past our Boston massacre and Tea party. Lobby day and J6 were those for our generation. Interesting times are ahead. Sic Semper Tyrannis Nothing to add to this Patriot’s words of wisdom. |
Since I'm not already part of somebody's trusted fire team, I'll just be a 'lone wolf.'   BTW, T-Robertson is emphatically right on many key points. I'm old enough to remember Ruby Ridge. I remember how the government spokesmen reported, and their media lackeys dutifully amplified, that Randy Weaver was a 'white separatist,' nutter, hater, anti-social monster. They lied about all of it. The media didn't report as loudly much later on when Randy Weaver got paid a legal settlement by the Feds. I remember more recently when Big Gov rounded up a Mormon compound somewhere, took bunches of people into custody, separated families on allegations of grooming and sexual abuse. By then, I had better developed my cynicism, and I was not surprised when after all the media hoopla, the government quietly released everybody. Media never came back and reported how all the government claimed had failed to pan out. The lies were the only narrative the common people knew. So it will be with all liberty lovers in America, with anyone who makes a stand in defense of themselves, their families, or their communities (which BTW is the entire basis & justification for gun rights, explicitly in the case of the PA constitution). Big Gov will lie about everything, their allies in the media will amplify it. BTW, I'm also old enough to remember when the media considered themselves separate from the government, and self-appointed watchdogs on government failures and abuses. They don't even pretend to be that anymore. Media are Democrat agents, first, last, and always. |
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Originally Posted By trobertson5-0: Been watching this thread and reading the wind. My advice,for those that would take it. VA dems are wasting no time. Neither should you. Now is the time to prepare,and we are blessed to have it. While the guy level response is to buy cases of Pmags and every cool gun you may ever want, I suggest a different course. Have armor,night vision,comms. Have food and cash reserves for when your accounts are frozen. If you don't have these,sell a cool toy to get them. Have a bolt hole,have multiple bolt holes. Get your fat ass in the best shape possible, train with your equipment instead of taking cool pictures with it. Network with old and trusted friends, accept no new ones with great ideas. I agree things are coming. I wholeheartedly agree that VA is not like other States,and Appalachian people are not going to go quietly. There is no need to bluster and discuss it online. The government WILL freeze your bank account and cell phones. They will release stories to the local media making you seem dangerous and crazy. The local media will happily run the story without fact checking. They will execute warrants to seize your means of resistance and terrorize your family. If they are allowed to get you into custody they will make damn sure you are denied reasonable bail and held in the worst place they can find for you to rot. You will be given a show trial in a hostile jurisdiction and a crazy sentence. DO NOT go into custody. I never will again. I've said this before on this very site,and I've had it used at a trial against me. If you dip your toe into the Rubicon,cross it hard and fast. Play for all the marbles. Your enemies will not act in half measures against you. I promise. I can tell no man what course of action is right for him. Each must decide based on his circumstances. I don't believe we are yet at our Lexington and Concord. But we are past our Boston massacre and Tea party. Lobby day and J6 were those for our generation. Interesting times are ahead. Sic Semper Tyrannis Great post. I am also giving thought to vetting some 2A and civil rights-type attorneys so I will have that resource at the ready. |
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Originally Posted By 110: Republicans and Conservatives are losers that will be the next Confederates to delete from history as if they never existed by a new people that will only ever know what they were taught in Democrat run schools. Originally Posted By 110: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Do we? In culture and politics, we've pushed toward more democracy for about a century. The Democratic party has made 'DEMOCRACY' a huge priority for quite a long time. With their agitators in education & news media, this has become the normalized message for the general population. Asking the general public to understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy wouldn't go far. Most people don't give any thought to the tremendous drawbacks to a democracy. As applied in the current situation, the 'majority rules' concept says that the Democratic government gets to do what they want. Republicans and conservatives do a very bad job of pushing back and explaining that democracy is a poor model that is unjust and unfree. Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner is what democracy looks like. Zimbabwe is what democracy looks like. And Russia, Venezuala, Cuba. The 'democracy' narrative is where we are, and advocating a limited constitutional government is actually a radical, countercultural thing. Republicans and Conservatives are losers that will be the next Confederates to delete from history as if they never existed by a new people that will only ever know what they were taught in Democrat run schools. That's a bit more defeatist than I care for. |
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I've never played Minecraft, but do tribal leaders in that game ever get massively red-flagged by thousands of constituents the day they assume office, if they've made and doubled down on threats of violence against their opponents and families and such threats are public record? That would seem like a cool game, if so. Like if the chief LEO became a prohibited person or something. |
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Originally Posted By apexcrusade: That's a bit more defeatist than I care for. Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Originally Posted By 110: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Do we? In culture and politics, we've pushed toward more democracy for about a century. The Democratic party has made 'DEMOCRACY' a huge priority for quite a long time. With their agitators in education & news media, this has become the normalized message for the general population. Asking the general public to understand the difference between a constitutional republic and a democracy wouldn't go far. Most people don't give any thought to the tremendous drawbacks to a democracy. As applied in the current situation, the 'majority rules' concept says that the Democratic government gets to do what they want. Republicans and conservatives do a very bad job of pushing back and explaining that democracy is a poor model that is unjust and unfree. Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner is what democracy looks like. Zimbabwe is what democracy looks like. And Russia, Venezuala, Cuba. The 'democracy' narrative is where we are, and advocating a limited constitutional government is actually a radical, countercultural thing. Republicans and Conservatives are losers that will be the next Confederates to delete from history as if they never existed by a new people that will only ever know what they were taught in Democrat run schools. Now, add to their numbers, the self-loathing half of the population that want to see the West die. Our side is spinning down the drain of numerical irrelevancy. Meanwhile, people here still get hard for ‘legal immigration." 
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The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit
The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit
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Originally Posted By Prolix: I've never played Minecraft, but do tribal leaders in that game ever get massively red-flagged by thousands of constituents the day they assume office, if they've made and doubled down on threats of violence against their opponents and families and such threats are public record? That would seem like a cool game, if so. Like if the chief LEO became a prohibited person or something. I don't game, but that sounds interesting. |
Grandfathering weapons only puts off until tomorrow what tyranny cannot accomplish today.
The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants.
The only people made safer by gun control are criminals and tyrants.
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Originally Posted By trobertson5-0: Been watching this thread and reading the wind. My advice,for those that would take it. VA dems are wasting no time. Neither should you. Now is the time to prepare,and we are blessed to have it. While the guy level response is to buy cases of Pmags and every cool gun you may ever want, I suggest a different course. Have armor,night vision,comms. Have food and cash reserves for when your accounts are frozen. If you don't have these,sell a cool toy to get them. Have a bolt hole,have multiple bolt holes. Get your fat ass in the best shape possible, train with your equipment instead of taking cool pictures with it. Network with old and trusted friends, accept no new ones with great ideas. I agree things are coming. I wholeheartedly agree that VA is not like other States,and Appalachian people are not going to go quietly. There is no need to bluster and discuss it online. The government WILL freeze your bank account and cell phones. They will release stories to the local media making you seem dangerous and crazy. The local media will happily run the story without fact checking. They will execute warrants to seize your means of resistance and terrorize your family. If they are allowed to get you into custody they will make damn sure you are denied reasonable bail and held in the worst place they can find for you to rot. You will be given a show trial in a hostile jurisdiction and a crazy sentence. DO NOT go into custody. I never will again. I've said this before on this very site,and I've had it used at a trial against me. If you dip your toe into the Rubicon,cross it hard and fast. Play for all the marbles. Your enemies will not act in half measures against you. I promise. I can tell no man what course of action is right for him. Each must decide based on his circumstances. I don't believe we are yet at our Lexington and Concord. But we are past our Boston massacre and Tea party. Lobby day and J6 were those for our generation. Interesting times are ahead. Sic Semper Tyrannis Great post and I'm the least defeatist in this thread BUT, the part about not going into custody and the two paragraphs below that, here's my rebuttal. They will come at you at your weakest. No, I'm not talking about 2am no knocks. Most of us work a job and that is where you're most vulnerable. Most folks don't walk around in full kit all day everyday. If as has been said they know what we have, and I believe they do, they're not going to come at you where you have all that stuff at the ready. Something to think about... |
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Originally Posted By Extorris: Lots of people in upstate NY said the same thing when they'd post the map showing NY counties whose Sheriffs said they wouldn't enforce the SAFE Act. Guess what their Sheriffs were doing a year later, charging people under the SAFE Act. @Aimless No fuckin shit. They're all on the same team and would burn anyone of us outta our homes for more OT and pat on the back press conferences. |
 Virginia 2A Update: Gun Range Ban, New AWB, & Hot Mics From 5 years ago. But they will try it all again. |
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Originally Posted By MKSheppard: I think what he's trying to get at is Trump has moved the timetable up. Before Trump; all of this would have taken maybe 10-15 more years. After Trump? The schedule got moved up to within the next few years. They're mad and they want to take it out on Trump & his supporters. Trump is going after one of their largest and most reliable voting constituencies -- illegal aliens or their offspring that they harvest for votes and money. So of course they're going to go after what they perceive as the GOP's largest & most reliable constituencies -- gun owners. Pepper your angus. And this is why the court needs to be expanded to 13 SCOTUSes. Make them all hardcore traditional conservatives. Like yesterday. |
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Originally Posted By Kihn: And this is why the court needs to be expanded to 13 SCOTUSes. Make them all hardcore traditional conservatives. Like yesterday. How about just getting Roberts and Trumps 3 pieces of shit on board with Thomas and Machine gun sammy and start knocking these unconstutional laws down? They wont unless its about abortion. Roberts court doesnt want to make waves. |
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Originally Posted By vxtip545: They do this to us anyway. They hate us and want us dead. Yes, I want Republicans to fight back and do things, even if it pisses off the Left, but doing anything that benefits America and our Constitutional Rights pisses them off. They don't want us dead. They want us chained up and compliant. Someone needs to support these 'special people' so they are free to exist on a much higher plane than us deplorables. Simpletons like us cannot understand the complexity of things like 57 genders, and why we need to keep supporting their efforts to achieve drug fueled nirvana and concepts like entire universes under their fingernails. They hate us because we chose freedom over subservience to whatever that actually is. |
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Originally Posted By Colt1860: Lots of Trump supporters say that what they want from Trump is to make liberals mad. Well, they're mad. I don't give a shit about getting liberals mad, we know they are mad/crazy. I want Trump to make Conservatives pissed off enough to start showing some back bone! The liberal shit has gone on for to long and they need to have their shit pushed in. 
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Originally Posted By Stretchman: They don't want us dead. They want us chained up and compliant. Someone needs to support these 'special people' so they are free to exist on a much higher plane than us deplorables. Simpletons like us cannot understand the complexity of things like 57 genders, and why we need to keep supporting their efforts to achieve drug fueled nirvana and concepts like entire universes under their fingernails. They hate us because we chose freedom over subservience to whatever that actually is. ....actually a scary number of them DO want us dead. |
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Originally Posted By Extorris: Lots of people in upstate NY said the same thing when they'd post the map showing NY counties whose Sheriffs said they wouldn't enforce the SAFE Act. Guess what their Sheriffs were doing a year later, charging people under the SAFE Act. @Aimless Originally Posted By Extorris: Originally Posted By Need4Guns: Its really not. Most of whatever gets passed will be ignored. Again, I post this map. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/524356/1000003134-3655393.jpg Lots of people in upstate NY said the same thing when they'd post the map showing NY counties whose Sheriffs said they wouldn't enforce the SAFE Act. Guess what their Sheriffs were doing a year later, charging people under the SAFE Act. @Aimless Everybody needs to read Ordinary Men if they think cops will do anything other than what they are told. |
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Originally Posted By 110: ....actually a scary number of them DO want us dead. I’d say, having just elected an individual that is known to have said he’d kill children to force the opposition to submit to his viewpoint, yes a lot of them do want us dead. They just want the .gov to do it for them. Something that needs to be fully digested and come to terms with. Unfortunately we can’t afford the mental gymnastics that’s been played to explain and rationalize things away. The reality is, a person was just elected that it has been proven made statements they will kill people to get them to bend the knee. Not just individuals, but their children. That in itself, makes things different from last time and needs to be driven home at every opportunity. |
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Originally Posted By ka-tetof1: I’d say, having just elected an individual that is known to have said he’d kill children to force the opposition to submit to his viewpoint, yes a lot of them do want us dead. They just want the .gov to do it for them. Something that needs to be fully digested and come to terms with. Unfortunately we can’t afford the mental gymnastics that’s been played to explain and rationalize things away. The reality is, a person was just elected that it has been proven made statements they will kill people to get them to bend the knee. Not just individuals, but their children. That in itself, makes things different from last time and needs to be driven home at every opportunity. Originally Posted By ka-tetof1: Originally Posted By 110: ....actually a scary number of them DO want us dead. I’d say, having just elected an individual that is known to have said he’d kill children to force the opposition to submit to his viewpoint, yes a lot of them do want us dead. They just want the .gov to do it for them. Something that needs to be fully digested and come to terms with. Unfortunately we can’t afford the mental gymnastics that’s been played to explain and rationalize things away. The reality is, a person was just elected that it has been proven made statements they will kill people to get them to bend the knee. Not just individuals, but their children. That in itself, makes things different from last time and needs to be driven home at every opportunity. You forgot the part where (ironically) they will accuse us of being bloodthirsty killers for merely owning firearms - all while being willing to kill us over having something they don't like. There was a time where I felt the other side was just a little confused or perhaps not the most critical thinkers. That time is gone. While many of the population are useless lemmings I now believe those in power know exactly what they are doing. No amount of talking, debating, explaining or even posturing is going to change their minds. They don't think we're willing to "die on that hill" so they'll keep pushing. The options to convince them we're willing to "die on that hill" are unpleasant, but that's really what it comes down to. There's really not much else that can be said in a public setting..... |