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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Midway is taking no chances…and says F VA. https://preview.redd.it/but-its-just-a-bolt-action-v0-3g7z5i2kee9h1.png?width=573&format=png&auto=webp&s=72838d93c42765a07878ce5c26d1a798dbc1878b https://preview.redd.it/but-its-just-a-bolt-action-v0-g73cb949qe9h1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=406d0c59cebca41211fbb08cd04bd4c892ac5ebd Now if everyone in the industry did this for everyone including LE orders there might be some headway in fighting it |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Now if everyone in the industry did this for everyone including LE orders there might be some headway in fighting it LE is usually exempt, and the only ones professional enough to handle dangerous items… /s (this is sarcasm not LE-bashing…) |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Va passed a law to allow any dipshit to sue a gun manufacturer or retailer for a stubbed toe. Most companies are not going to be interested in doing anything with Va. Atlantic wont even ship the MKE A3 stock to va even though it isn't banned. When Virginia le get sued for violating rights the manufacturer/distributor/retailer who supplied the agency/officer need to get added to the lawsuit also. |
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I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: @bad2006z71 I ordered the MKE MP5 stock from Atlantic right after I saw your post. Shipped today to Virginia. No problem. @cincinnatus Thanks I checked this morning and the Va restriction was removed. Must have been and overly aggressive AI change or something. Anyways Ordered. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. Many will choose profits over taking the higher road, standing with gun owners and defending the 2A. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Many will choose profits over taking the higher road, standing with gun owners and defending the 2A. Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. Many will choose profits over taking the higher road, standing with gun owners and defending the 2A. Profits above all else, it's the American way. |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Starve the beast via attrition of willing suppliers Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Originally Posted By ayrock2626: When Virginia le get sued for violating rights the manufacturer/distributor/retailer who supplied the agency/officer need to get added to the lawsuit also. Starve the beast via attrition of willing suppliers Bingo. Like I pointed out in the mention that sCOTUS has let New York keeps it lawsuit against firearms industry law: Lexow Committee, Curran Committee, Hofstadter Committee, Helfand Investigation, Knapp Commission(and the movie Serpico), and Mollen Commission have made it obvious that any firearms supplied to the nypd are very likely to be involved in the deprivation of rights. So when it happens(and it will, frequently) rope the dealer/distributor/manufacturer in to the lawsuit. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Many will choose profits over taking the higher road, standing with gun owners and defending the 2A. Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. Many will choose profits over taking the higher road, standing with gun owners and defending the 2A. So do this. Originally Posted By ayrock2626: Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Originally Posted By ayrock2626: When Virginia le get sued for violating rights the manufacturer/distributor/retailer who supplied the agency/officer need to get added to the lawsuit also. Starve the beast via attrition of willing suppliers Bingo. Like I pointed out in the mention that sCOTUS has let New York keeps it lawsuit against firearms industry law: Lexow Committee, Curran Committee, Hofstadter Committee, Helfand Investigation, Knapp Commission(and the movie Serpico), and Mollen Commission have made it obvious that any firearms supplied to the nypd are very likely to be involved in the deprivation of rights. So when it happens(and it will, frequently) rope the dealer/distributor/manufacturer in to the lawsuit. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Bravo Company bends the knee. https://preview.redd.it/just-adding-to-the-list-of-companies-that-betrayed-their-v0-hccyan6c9g9h1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7ac6dcc69e9c9ae6d85e7b1a089b5f124defffc2 Will BCM sell to cops? Milwaukee PD chief Ed Flynn(who most GOP voters were hoping to have as a federal le agency head under his old boss Mitt Romney) once testified that private citizens should have their rights deprived via semi auto bans. At that same time, Milwaukee PD had a large order im with BCM and Buffoni publicly canceled their order. |
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Originally Posted By ayrock2626: Will BCM sell to cops? Milwaukee PD chief Ed Flynn(who most GOP voters were hoping to have as a federal le agency head under his old boss Mitt Romney) once testified that private citizens should have their rights deprived via semi auto bans. At that same time, Milwaukee PD had a large order im with BCM and Buffoni publicly canceled their order. Originally Posted By ayrock2626: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Bravo Company bends the knee. https://preview.redd.it/just-adding-to-the-list-of-companies-that-betrayed-their-v0-hccyan6c9g9h1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7ac6dcc69e9c9ae6d85e7b1a089b5f124defffc2 Will BCM sell to cops? Milwaukee PD chief Ed Flynn(who most GOP voters were hoping to have as a federal le agency head under his old boss Mitt Romney) once testified that private citizens should have their rights deprived via semi auto bans. At that same time, Milwaukee PD had a large order im with BCM and Buffoni publicly canceled their order. Of course. Cops are professional enough for std capacity magazines and military style assault rifles. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Midway is doubling down. The fuddery is strong in this one. https://preview.redd.it/midway-magazine-response-v0-j2io7oeb2g9h1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7786e7a56d35f02fc69dd19691b0da1a9100de1e I tested it a second ago and those faggots won't sell a 10 round 10/22 mag or a 1911 mag to Virginian. |
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Originally Posted By Vaquero45: I tested it a second ago and those faggots won't sell a 10 round 10/22 mag or a 1911 mag to Virginian. Originally Posted By Vaquero45: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Midway is doubling down. The fuddery is strong in this one. https://preview.redd.it/midway-magazine-response-v0-j2io7oeb2g9h1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7786e7a56d35f02fc69dd19691b0da1a9100de1e I tested it a second ago and those faggots won't sell a 10 round 10/22 mag or a 1911 mag to Virginian. Any company that will not sell what it is legal to sell is dead to me for any future purchase at all. |
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Originally Posted By BFskinner: Any company that will not sell what it is legal to sell is dead to me for any future purchase at all. It wasn't important to a lot/most of the republicans in your state to get out and simply vote. Why should these companies care more than the voters? |
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Originally Posted By SlowTA: It wasn't important to a lot/most of the republicans in your state to get out and simply vote. Why should these companies care more than the voters? Originally Posted By SlowTA: Originally Posted By BFskinner: Any company that will not sell what it is legal to sell is dead to me for any future purchase at all. It wasn't important to a lot/most of the republicans in your state to get out and simply vote. Why should these companies care more than the voters? Thank you for your useful contribution to this thread. |
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Originally Posted By DerekL:
Nice! Just got a text about this. |
I ain’t in no ways tired of winning yet!
 Injunction Granted in Virginia |
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“Gun violence is the key driver of violent crime in this Commonwealth and nation, and assault weapons are designed intentionally to inflict maximum damage in a matter of seconds. The assault weapons ban passed by the General Assembly and signed by the Governor will save lives in the Commonwealth and is compliant with the Constitution of Virginia. This ruling is disappointing and puts our communities at risk. The Commonwealth will urgently file a motion to stay this ruling and appeal this temporary injunction. We will continue to vigorously defend Virginia’s assault weapons ban and magazine capacity restrictions and uphold the laws designed to keep Virginians safe.” - Jay "two bullets" Jones https://www.oag.state.va.us/media-center/news-releases/3055-attorney-general-jones-shares-statement-following-ruling-in-crump-v-katz-regarding-virginias-assault-weapons-ban |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: “Gun violence is the key driver of violent crime in this Commonwealth and nation, and assault weapons are designed intentionally to inflict maximum damage in a matter of seconds. The assault weapons ban passed by the General Assembly and signed by the Governor will save lives in the Commonwealth and is compliant with the Constitution of Virginia. This ruling is disappointing and puts our communities at risk. The Commonwealth will urgently file a motion to stay this ruling and appeal this temporary injunction. We will continue to vigorously defend Virginia’s assault weapons ban and magazine capacity restrictions and uphold the laws designed to keep Virginians safe.” - Jay "two bullets" Jones https://www.oag.state.va.us/media-center/news-releases/3055-attorney-general-jones-shares-statement-following-ruling-in-crump-v-katz-regarding-virginias-assault-weapons-ban Inner City Black culture, unfettered illegal immigration of violent persons, politicians that want to shoot their opponents, and crazy mofo's are the leading cause of violence in this country, dipshit. |
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Fantastic News for a change! Text of VCDL Alert: Virginia Citizens Defense League Defending Your Right to Defend Yourself Major Breaking News! VCDL/GOA get a temporary injunction on the AWB, AW carry prohibiton, and magzine capacity limitation! A judge in Lancaster County has issued a temporary injunction against the Virginia State Police enforcing the “assault firearm” ban and carry prohibition, as well as the 15-round magazine capacity limitation! The injunction is in place until December 31st and could be extended. We expect the Commonwealth to appeal and things could change. Watch for more alerts as this fight continues. Also, an AWB lawsuit was heard in Washington County today (VSSA/NRA lawsuit). A ruling is expected in a day or two. To get the fastest breaking information, follow VCDL on X at: VCDL_ORG © Virginia Citizens Defense League 2026. All rights reserved. AssociationSphere |
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Originally Posted By ParaBellum123: In situations like this, how long does it typically take retailers to start allowing shipments to Virginia again? Why in the ever living fuck would you choose to purchase something from any seller who was so quick to tell you "fuck you"? Midway and a few others will never see another dime from me. If you care, those sellers won't see a dime from you, either. You can buy from other places that never tried to out do our commie governor by refusing to send 10 rounders or (in some cases) anything to VA "because we aren't sure!!". |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. Companies like Glock, HK, Sig, Steyr, etc.. currently sell to police and military in countries where there is absolutely no civilian firearms rights. What makes you think they will care about Virginia? Colt sold Diemco rifles to countries that banned firearms. Knights has no qualms with selling SR15's to units in the UK where civilians can't own them. The HK 416 has been adopted across Europe in anti-gun countries like France, Germany, etc.. If an American company like S&W refused to sell to Virginia LE, they'd just be replaced with Glocks with a slight shrug. Barrett being the only practical manufacturer of semi auto .50bmg rifles was the only thing that made them unique in the 90's & early 2000's. When it comes to 9mm pistols, 5.56 rifles, etc there's too many options. |
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Originally Posted By SonofLiberty1775: Fantastic News for a change! Text of VCDL Alert: Virginia Citizens Defense League Defending Your Right to Defend Yourself Major Breaking News! VCDL/GOA get a temporary injunction on the AWB, AW carry prohibiton, and magzine capacity limitation! A judge in Lancaster County has issued a temporary injunction against the Virginia State Police enforcing the “assault firearm” ban and carry prohibition, as well as the 15-round magazine capacity limitation! The injunction is in place until December 31st and could be extended. We expect the Commonwealth to appeal and things could change. Watch for more alerts as this fight continues. Also, an AWB lawsuit was heard in Washington County today (VSSA/NRA lawsuit). A ruling is expected in a day or two. To get the fastest breaking information, follow VCDL on X at: VCDL_ORG © Virginia Citizens Defense League 2026. All rights reserved. AssociationSphere Washington County is a great place to file. |
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Originally Posted By BigGulp: Why in the ever living fuck would you choose to purchase something from any seller who was so quick to tell you "fuck you"? Midway and a few others will never see another dime from me. If you care, those sellers won't see a dime from you, either. You can buy from other places that never tried to out do our commie governor by refusing to send 10 rounders or (in some cases) anything to VA "because we aren't sure!!". Originally Posted By BigGulp: Originally Posted By ParaBellum123: In situations like this, how long does it typically take retailers to start allowing shipments to Virginia again? Why in the ever living fuck would you choose to purchase something from any seller who was so quick to tell you "fuck you"? Midway and a few others will never see another dime from me. If you care, those sellers won't see a dime from you, either. You can buy from other places that never tried to out do our commie governor by refusing to send 10 rounders or (in some cases) anything to VA "because we aren't sure!!". I'm holding on to the list of companies that won't sell to Virginia and if the laws get completely struck down I will still never buy from them again. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Of course. Cops are professional enough for std capacity magazines and military style assault rifles. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By ayrock2626: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Bravo Company bends the knee. https://preview.redd.it/just-adding-to-the-list-of-companies-that-betrayed-their-v0-hccyan6c9g9h1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7ac6dcc69e9c9ae6d85e7b1a089b5f124defffc2 Will BCM sell to cops? Milwaukee PD chief Ed Flynn(who most GOP voters were hoping to have as a federal le agency head under his old boss Mitt Romney) once testified that private citizens should have their rights deprived via semi auto bans. At that same time, Milwaukee PD had a large order im with BCM and Buffoni publicly canceled their order. Of course. Cops are professional enough for std capacity magazines and military style assault rifles. Except BCM didn't sell to cops who opposed the 2A. |
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Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Companies like Glock, HK, Sig, Steyr, etc.. currently sell to police and military in countries where there is absolutely no civilian firearms rights. What makes you think they will care about Virginia? Colt sold Diemco rifles to countries that banned firearms. Knights has no qualms with selling SR15's to units in the UK where civilians can't own them. The HK 416 has been adopted across Europe in anti-gun countries like France, Germany, etc.. If an American company like S&W refused to sell to Virginia LE, they'd just be replaced with Glocks with a slight shrug. Barrett being the only practical manufacturer of semi auto .50bmg rifles was the only thing that made them unique in the 90's & early 2000's. When it comes to 9mm pistols, 5.56 rifles, etc there's too many options. Originally Posted By Porcupine55: Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: I’m serious when I say this the entire industry needs to pull a quasi Ronnie Barrett with the state and local LE in VA including ammunition suppliers on July 1. Only sell what is legally allowed for normal people to LE agencies, individual officers or other exemptions at the state and local level. 15 round or less mags No regular ar rifles No threaded barrels Etc You can’t force a private company to supply or manufacture anything to anyone sans the defense production act. I know wishful thinking. Companies like Glock, HK, Sig, Steyr, etc.. currently sell to police and military in countries where there is absolutely no civilian firearms rights. What makes you think they will care about Virginia? Colt sold Diemco rifles to countries that banned firearms. Knights has no qualms with selling SR15's to units in the UK where civilians can't own them. The HK 416 has been adopted across Europe in anti-gun countries like France, Germany, etc.. If an American company like S&W refused to sell to Virginia LE, they'd just be replaced with Glocks with a slight shrug. Barrett being the only practical manufacturer of semi auto .50bmg rifles was the only thing that made them unique in the 90's & early 2000's. When it comes to 9mm pistols, 5.56 rifles, etc there's too many options. Since the states want to enable lawsuits against the firearms industry for alleged misuse, everytime a cop commits deprivation of rights and a federal lawsuit is filed add the dealer/distributor/manufacturer to the list being sued. Should be easy money showing the firearms source knowingly transferred the firearm to an agency where it was likely to be used as a tool in the deprivation of rights. |
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What does this exactly mean in non-legaleese, please. Explain it to me as though I was a small child, or as though I was a Labrador retriever. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Inner City Black culture, unfettered illegal immigration of violent persons, politicians that want to shoot their opponents, and crazy mofo's are the leading cause of violence in this country, dipshit. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: “Gun violence is the key driver of violent crime in this Commonwealth and nation, and assault weapons are designed intentionally to inflict maximum damage in a matter of seconds. The assault weapons ban passed by the General Assembly and signed by the Governor will save lives in the Commonwealth and is compliant with the Constitution of Virginia. This ruling is disappointing and puts our communities at risk. The Commonwealth will urgently file a motion to stay this ruling and appeal this temporary injunction. We will continue to vigorously defend Virginia’s assault weapons ban and magazine capacity restrictions and uphold the laws designed to keep Virginians safe.” - Jay "two bullets" Jones https://www.oag.state.va.us/media-center/news-releases/3055-attorney-general-jones-shares-statement-following-ruling-in-crump-v-katz-regarding-virginias-assault-weapons-ban Inner City Black culture, unfettered illegal immigration of violent persons, politicians that want to shoot their opponents, and crazy mofo's are the leading cause of violence in this country, dipshit. It's pretty ironic that I heard a recording of a politician at some dinner or something saying almost exactly that. He said young adult black and Hispanic men in inner cities are responsible for most of the violence and that is where the efforts should be focused. Then he got in trouble for implementing stop and frisk in NY city of young black and Hispanic men. And now he is the driving force for gun control in the United States, step by step by step. I guess a broken clock or something like that. |
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Originally Posted By Spade: I'm holding on to the list of companies that won't sell to Virginia and if the laws get completely struck down I will still never buy from them again. Originally Posted By Spade: Originally Posted By BigGulp: Originally Posted By ParaBellum123: In situations like this, how long does it typically take retailers to start allowing shipments to Virginia again? Why in the ever living fuck would you choose to purchase something from any seller who was so quick to tell you "fuck you"? Midway and a few others will never see another dime from me. If you care, those sellers won't see a dime from you, either. You can buy from other places that never tried to out do our commie governor by refusing to send 10 rounders or (in some cases) anything to VA "because we aren't sure!!". I'm holding on to the list of companies that won't sell to Virginia and if the laws get completely struck down I will still never buy from them again. The government that "we" elected has promised to use our tax dollars to drag those companies into court bankrupt them if possible, or just bleed them as much as possible. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: What does this exactly mean in non-legaleese, please. Explain it to me as though I was a small child, or as though I was a Labrador retriever. Thanks. It means the assault weapons ban is on hold until the end of the year unless it goes to a higher court before then. If not then it can be extended until it gets heard. However…the traitors will file for a stay which means the injunction is no good. Also however…we may still see retailers not make sales to residents as many such as Midway and Palmetto tend to chuck us under the bus quickly for non-restricted items. |
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Originally Posted By Canoeguy: It means the assault weapons ban is on hold until the end of the year unless it goes to a higher court before then. If not then it can be extended until it gets heard. However…the traitors will file for a stay which means the injunction is no good. Also however…we may still see retailers not make sales to residents as many such as Midway and Palmetto tend to chuck us under the bus quickly for non-restricted items. Originally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By stone-age: What does this exactly mean in non-legaleese, please. Explain it to me as though I was a small child, or as though I was a Labrador retriever. Thanks. It means the assault weapons ban is on hold until the end of the year unless it goes to a higher court before then. If not then it can be extended until it gets heard. However…the traitors will file for a stay which means the injunction is no good. Also however…we may still see retailers not make sales to residents as many such as Midway and Palmetto tend to chuck us under the bus quickly for non-restricted items. Thanks. I'm sure they already have a stay filled out and will be turning in the paperwork already if possible. I guess we have another 6 months for the people of Virginia to let the politicians and judges know that we are all mad and we want this stopped. All of us. |
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